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I am not sure there's a market for Timmins. Every team has some player who's similar to him. Even Pit, who has the closest ties to him, will probably just wait for the waiver wire.
Jarnkrok may, but I'd rather move Kampf.
Speculation: *Rifai vs. Liljegren. Rifai Clears. Liljegren healthy scratch.
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Jarnkrok may, but I'd rather move Kampf.
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In case you may have forgotten how highly he was rated
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"I actually have Rifai making the team right now as the 7th defenseman...just because of how low his contract is."
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I think CBJ could take Jarnkrok
Maybe another year with Kampf
Timmins is waiver wire but if someone like LAK who had injuries wanted to make sure they got him, a 6th-7th in the next 1-2 years is sufficient.
He lost his Dubas connection
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3rd line D like Liljegren need to be more physical.
14 goals in 196 games is 3rd line.
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I remember when he was drafted and how many were saying he projects to be a bottom pair D. When he eventually made it to the AHL sentiment was confirmed by those that watched him. Appears they assessed him properly.
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Only 108/109 ish defenseman to have ever scored over 100 goals in a Career so you would be right if you knew anything.
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luligren is signed 3m or someting crazy like that Tre overpayment sttyle
You need depth on D to succeed. Lilly is a good depth piece with some offensive upside. Much like Timmins but he’s more durable.
There’s no way Rifai makes the team. He plays tough but is at best an injury replacement in the NHL. He’s a lousy puck mover.
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Lily is pretty vanilla. If he wasn’t a former 1st rounder and RHD, he would have been cut loose long ago
This tracks... it's why we held onto Sandin or it is why Timmins has been given all the chances in the world.
Maybe they just see more potential?
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I don't disagree with that. But Rifai makes significantly less - when talking bottom of lineup guys. Hard to pay over a million for a guy who spends more time out of the lineup than in.
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He is, but he should be on the 2nd pair, IMO.
But that is the issue with Treliving. He can't even trade the players he seemingly doesn't want.
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I think the problem is, Leaf nation goes crazy and think that they "feel" something happening, and are 99% of the time wrong...do they ever check themselves? No. They just continue with their "feeling", believing it's right and never reckoning with the fact it's been wrong time over time.
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I'm sorry you feel that way about your hf experience.
I don't spend my time crafting fictional trade scenarios to excite or outrage fans.
I read articles, I speak with fans who have been following the team since the 60's, I listen to all sorts of analysis, and most importantly I have perfect 20/20 vision.
Liljegren has 1 choice right now: he has to prove that he's a top 4 defenseman. If he can't keep fighting his way to that spot, then he's an overpaid bottom 6 defenseman.
On a team who's so close to cap, who's under pressure to win now, where every nickel counts; the focus will be on Lil.
Are there better options/cheaper options for the bottom 6? Many think there is.
What is Liljegren's contribution to Toronto? 0 goals and 1 assist in 13 playoff games? This is not good at all if you consider him to be someone known for his offensive play. Is he a defensive defenseman? I don't think he's good enough to call himself that.
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Benoit and Hakanpaa are both lousy puck movers, if Rifai replaces someone it is likely one of those two.
I don't understand some of the moves we made, we have so many repetitive positions or barely upgraded at positions, it feels like moves were made to make moves, not because it improved the team.
They probably could have used some of that wasted cap on depth to upgrade some other spots.
timmins is the worst positional defencemen we have out of the 8 fighting for a spot and its by a considerable margin thats why it would be risky
It's crazy how bad he is defensively and yet when he is on the ice, the team does the best out of any D we have.
if you watched timmins play you would see hes very raw too aggressive to be the last line of defence he tends to take himself out of plays with his reads hes good with the pucc for sure
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He was doing just fine last year until that rat in Boston slew footed him into the boards, was never the same after that. Would hate to give up on a young-ish RHD who has top 4 upside for a career minor leaguer like Rifai
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