Randy Randerson
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What about Rielly+ for Rielly plus a small plus?
you need to add to the Rielly side, big time.
What about Rielly+ for Rielly plus a small plus?
What about Rielly+ for Rielly plus a small plus?
Ok, lets just go along with OPs thread.
Realistically i would want a dman similar age as him, drafted 2010-2016, also drafted top 15ish.
1) Cam Fowler (2010)
2) Adam Larsson (2011)
3) Dougie Hamilton (2011)
4) Jonas Brodin (2011)
5) Oskar Klefbom (2011)
6) Ryan Murray (2012)
7) Hampus Lindholm (2012)
8) Jacob Trouba (2012)
9) Matt Dumba (2012)
10) Olli Maatta (2012)
11) Seth Jones (2013)
12) Darnell Nurse (2013)
13) Rasmus Ristolainen (2013)
14) Aaron Ekblad (2014, lol i wish)
15) Noah Hanifin (2015)
16) Ivan Provorov (2015)
17) Zach Werenski (2015)
18) Olli Juolevi (2016)
Out of this list, theres some trades that both teams would say no, some trades where other teams would say no, and some where Leafs GM would say no.
We could be a little open minded, and just discuss the thread. Regardless of it being realistic or not. 3 years before, who would have thought Subban could be traded in a 1on1.
Rielly is entering his fifth year post draft, and still makes questionnable decisions quite often. I firmly believe he is a fantastic skater with above average offensive IQ, but his defensive game game is STILL a work in progress, and not top-pair worthy at this point. He relies on his skating to cover himself because his decision making/IQ is lackluster in his own zone, and while not weak, he isint a physical presence. Add to that the fact that he is no PPQB with amazing vision and that his shot is not a threat at all, I find it hard to see a sure-fire #1. Out of all the leafs players, he is the most overrated.
And the problem with the projections of the leafs defence some fans make (which often includes Gardiner, Rielly, Zaitsev in the top 4 and Carrick on the bottom pair as the players who will stick long term) is that none of those players I would call solid on the defense side of things. Some of them (Gardiner) I would even call disasters on that front. You cant win if all your defensemens are offense first. They need to fix this ASAP.
Finally, some people get it.
No, some people don't get it. Look at what he can do with a good team infront of him. Him and Tanev were the best d for team Canada at the WCH. By a fair margin. He was constantly praised by a coach that had no affiliation to him prior to the tournament. Trading Rielly is the last thing this team needs to do. But yeah lets just jump down the kids throat whos had a "rough" few games at the beginning of the season, when our entire defensive structure has been a total disaster..
Finally, some people get it.
Leafs need a shakeup on D, will move Rielly strictly in a 1-for-1 package. D for D.
What do ya got?
ITT i learned that the leafs are only on "year 2 of a rebiild"
that being said, trading rielly does not fix your defence. not going to happen, but even a rielly for doughty trade would not fix your defence to the point where it is good, leafs need more quality.
ITT i learned that the leafs are only on "year 2 of a rebiild"
that being said, trading rielly does not fix your defence. not going to happen, but even a rielly for doughty trade would not fix your defence to the point where it is good, leafs need more quality.
ITT i learned that the leafs are only on "year 2 of a rebiild"
that being said, trading rielly does not fix your defence. not going to happen, but even a rielly for doughty trade would not fix your defence to the point where it is good, leafs need more quality.
Leafs need a shakeup on D, will move Rielly strictly in a 1-for-1 package. D for D.
What do ya got?
Leafs need a shakeup on D, will move Rielly strictly in a 1-for-1 package. D for D.
What do ya got?
when you look at Low/high Danger shots:
1000 avg LD shots gets you 32 Goals
1000 avg HD shots gets you 162 goals
162/32 =5.0625
if LD shot is a scorin g factor of 1
then
HD shot has scoring factor of 5
the avg LS shot to HS shot over the years is
20 LD SH
10 HD SH
20 x 1 =20
10 X 5 = 50
the avg scoring factor game is 70.
Last night Anderson faced 37 shots
8 HD 0G
29 LD 0G
8 X 5 = 40
29 X 1 = 29
he faced a shot power factor of 69.
slightly below average.
oiler usually rack 14-16 did not press andersson like normal.
Last night:
Talbot # 2 HD SH Save% goalie last 3 seasons
VS OTT
10 HD SH 1 G
11 LD SH 0G
1 ENG
10 X 5 = 50
11 X 1 = 11
He faced a shot power factor of 61
Elliott: #7 HD SH Save % goalie last 3 seasons
VS WSH
13 HD 2G
15 LD
1 ENG
13 X 5 = 65
15 X 1 = 15
He faced a shot power factor of 80 gave up 2G
Holtby: #4 HD SH Save% goalie last 3 Seasons
@ CGY
6 HD 1G
16 LD
6 X 5 =30
16 X 1 = 16
He faced a shot power factor of 46 and gave up 1G
Enroth: #43 HD save% Golaie last 3 seasons
@ NYI
25 HS SH 5G
10 LD SH
25 X 5 =125
10 X 1 = 10
Enroth faced a shot power factor of 135 and gave up 5G
almost double average.
Bishop: #22 HD SH save% Golaie
@ NYR
22 HD SH 6G
15 LD SH 0 G
22 X 5 = 110
15 X 1 = 15
Bishop faced shot power factor of 125 and gave up 6G
Leafs games:
@ OTT
F. andersson #26 HD save% goalie
14 HD SH 4G
16 LD SH 1G
14x 5 = 70
16 x 1 = 16
Fredrick Faced shot power factor of 86 and gave up 5 G
@ WPG
F.and....
16 HD SH 5G
18 LD SH 0G
16 X 5 = 80
18 X 1 = 18
He faced shot power factor of 98 giving up 5G
@ MIN
Enroth
15 HD SH
12 LD SH
15 X 5 = 75
12 X 1 = 12
Enroth faced Shot power Factor of 87 gave up 3 G
@ CHI
F. And...
20 HD SH 4G
15 LD SH 0G
20 X 5 = 100
15 X 1 =15
Fredie faced Shot power factor of 115 gave up 4G
FLD
F. Andersson
16 HD SH
12 LD SH
16 X 5 =80
12 x 1 = 12
He faced Shot power Factor of 92 gave up 2G
top 3 goalie Performance
@ MTL
F. And
15 HD Sh 2G
16 LD SH 0G
15 X 5 = 75
16 X 1 = 16
He face Shot power Factor of 91 gave up 2G
top 3 goalie performance.
Price
16 HD Sh
22 LD SH
16 X 5 = 80
22 X 1 = 22
Price faced Shot power factor of 91 gave up 1G
he faced the best in the game.
top 4 Goalies last 3 seasons.
#1 Price
#2 Talbot; Griess
#4 Holtby
what you see is a some very poor HD defence.
Rielly is one of the 5 worst HD shot defensive din the game.
Wideman would be a HD sh defence and offensive production d similar to Rielly.
Rielly is what is refered to as a Playoff killer.
Like Reinhart; Nurse; Hamilton; Giordano last year.
What you want is a top 30 HSCA D
and
partner them with a top 30 HD Save% goalie
Vlasic ( #7 Jones)
Weber (Rinne not in top 50) (#1 Price) we are seeing the results.
Braun ( #7 Jones)
Larsson (#10 Schnieder) now (#2 Talbot)
Manson (no last year) (#10 Bernier)
Lindholm (#10 Bernier)
you guys already traded your only HD SH asset in Bernier.
To every person that has EVER asked why i don't put alot of stock into adavanced stats.....here's your answer.
That's basically what OP is asking forWhat about Rielly+ for Rielly plus a small plus?
To every person that has EVER asked why i don't put alot of stock into adavanced stats.....here's your answer.
Nice to see everyone still blaming everything on Hunwick. The shot chart shows that it's really Rielly's issues causing trouble, not Hunwick.
Thats always how he posts, he basically always talks about high danger shots/chances which is a valid point, except he constructs his posts in a weird way . HD shots/chances is a very important stat.
Rielly is entering his fifth year post draft, and still makes questionnable decisions quite often. I firmly believe he is a fantastic skater with above average offensive IQ, but his defensive game game is STILL a work in progress, and not top-pair worthy at this point. He relies on his skating to cover himself because his decision making/IQ is lackluster in his own zone, and while not weak, he isint a physical presence. Add to that the fact that he is no PPQB with amazing vision and that his shot is not a threat at all, I find it hard to see a sure-fire #1. Out of all the leafs players, he is the most overrated.
And the problem with the projections of the leafs defence some fans make (which often includes Gardiner, Rielly, Zaitsev in the top 4 and Carrick on the bottom pair as the players who will stick long term) is that none of those players I would call solid on the defense side of things. Some of them (Gardiner) I would even call disasters on that front. You cant win if all your defensemens are offense first. They need to fix this ASAP.
Reilly is still one of the worst in the game.
Cup winners have:
1. HD area coach
babcock- he has a whole root tree of HD disciples.
2. Top 10 HD save % goalie.
TOR had 1.
they traded #10 bernier to ANA for a 5th round pick.
After they paid a 1st and 2nd for #26 Andersson and paid him 5M
3. 3+ top 60 HD SH/60 D
the last 1 was gunnarsson.
Reilly Hunwick and Gardiner are just brutal.
4. 2 top 90 Even production lines or 3 top 150 Even production lines.
Marner; Nylander; Mathews top 40
JVR top 90
Bozak top 150
5. +ve dif Special teams.
Is this like reverse dog years or something?
Isn't this like year 10?
OK, let his own fellow leaf fans criticise the OP
Not even a leaf fan, trading Reilly a very bad idea. So many rookies on your team (like jets) bound to have some bad defensive nights.