At least one. The Oilers are going to need a goalie next season anyways and I'd rather take the chance of Howard keeping the same level of play than stuck with Talbot at the same level of play
Rumor: Report: Red Wings want 1st-round pick for Nyquist, Howard
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Where did I say trade or walk? I said contending teams, who are the ones trading firsts, aren't trading one for Howard.
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The article implies that if nobody offers a 1st they would focus on resigning them. I mean I hope it's just an initial asking price that they're willing to walk back to a 2nd+ if nobody is buying for a 1st but I also don't trust Ken Holland when it comes to his lust for re-signing his own vets.
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Yep from the way Khan sounded, It sounded like Holland was going to make offers to both Howard and Nyquist. I can see Howard resigning. It remains to be seen with Nyquist unless he's willing to take a short term hometown discount to stay. And he probably can get more on the open market depending on the team.
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By what metric does Howard suck? Maybe he aint so good in the groinpulls/60 stat, but he is solid nonetheless.
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Lol. Except last I checked its the seller who sets the price not the buyer.
I guess you missed the whole point. Im not arguing that the wings will for sure get a 1st.
I'm saying why should the Wings give up a a top 10 starting goalie (statistically speaking) who they are happy to keep for less than a 1st? I can see no reason for the wings to budge on their ask.
Either contenders meet the price or the wings resign Howard. The Wings will be happy with either outcome.
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Right now everyone thinks there are a ton of sellers but as we get closer to the deadline I think some of those would be sellers are proven to in fact not be sellers at all. Doesn't mean they'll become buyers but they all wont make all of the moves everyone is speculating over. Just like the Wings won't move all of the players that are being speculated as being available (i.e. Howard, Nyquist, Daley, Jensen, Glendening etc.)
Right now, the only teams I can confidently name as being definite sellers are LA, Ott, Det, and NYR. Then there are the bubble sellers like Chi, Ari, Phi, Florida, NJ, STL. Some of those teams will stand pat, some will sell, and some may even buy (i.e. Phi). Some of those teams still think they have an outside chance of making a run to the wild card (i.e. STL).
So, right now a lot of people think the market is flooded with sellers. I just don't see it that way but time will tell. Either way, it unfolds, there will be a direct impact on acquisition costs.
Right now, the only teams I can confidently name as being definite sellers are LA, Ott, Det, and NYR. Then there are the bubble sellers like Chi, Ari, Phi, Florida, NJ, STL. Some of those teams will stand pat, some will sell, and some may even buy (i.e. Phi). Some of those teams still think they have an outside chance of making a run to the wild card (i.e. STL).
So, right now a lot of people think the market is flooded with sellers. I just don't see it that way but time will tell. Either way, it unfolds, there will be a direct impact on acquisition costs.
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Nobody wants 'poop in a jar'.
Plot Twis - Goose, Howie and Detroits 2nd for Talbot and RNH?
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Howard is entirely situational. Years ago Edmonton payed a 1st rounder for Dwayne Roloson, and that worked out quite well for them. This requires a team to actually need a playoff goalie though, and barring injuries I don't think there is one. Should an injury come up to a good team though if there's no one else as good on the market Detroit can always play hardball and say 1st or nothing.
Or if they're not going to be able to resign them I'd wonder if Columbus could work a sign and trade with Bobrovsky, getting a big value return, then shipping part of that or their 1st to Detroit for Howard.
Or if they're not going to be able to resign them I'd wonder if Columbus could work a sign and trade with Bobrovsky, getting a big value return, then shipping part of that or their 1st to Detroit for Howard.
And the lol is about what? Tell me the last time a goalie went at the deadline for a first?
And how am i missing some point? Obviously every year like clock-work teams come out and say what they want. Notice how 90% of the trade boards is people discussing value, I think you're missing the point of this whole website.
The point of the website is for discussion. Which is what I am trying to have with you but for some reason you keep deflecting instead of answering the question i put forth.
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What does that have to do with anything? "It hasn't happened in a while so now its impossible"?
Because the majority of contenders don't need a freaking goalie. They have one. If someone goes down hurt then ya quite possibly. But if not then no chance.
Exactly what am I deflecting here? Seems you are just getting agitated for no reason. I've said countless times, contenders have a goalie in place already. If a team were to lose their starter for the year them maybe. Also keep him, he's had more bad years than good in the last 4 or 5 anyways.
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Because if teams are staying healthy in net and say a team like St Louis offered a 2nd and a decent prospect that would have the potential to help a rebuilding team in the long run more so than banking on giving howard 4-5 per for 2-3 years would.
You are in the minority with your fellow Red Wings fans
"Poop in a jar" ???? what are you 5 years old?
I'll take back my original proposal
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They could get a first for Nyquist. All depends who it is. Others with legit prospects like the Islanders or Carolina would be a good fit, but Oilers are the best fit. He has the speed and smarts to play with McDavid. All three of those teams have the assets whether a first or prospects. A good trade would be Nyquist to Canes for Geekie and a pick. 2nd or 3rd. Geekie would be a good fit for Wings organizationally as well. Has played with Rasmussen at Tri City.
Highly doubt they’ll get a first for Howard. Maybe Columbus could be a fit, as they move Bob but Wings probably have to settle for a pretty good prospect. A young player like Texier and a 3rd. Something like that. Just can’t see a 1st unless someone like Holtby or Rask goes down. Then it’s a no brainer for either team. As for the Oilers, I can’t see it unless they really want to commit to him beyond this season.
The player who they’ll end up getting a first or high end prospect for is Trevor Daley. Perfect fit for Leafs. Maybe a Daley/Lillegren + Deal or a first and something else. Daley is the exact type of move the Leafs need and will probably draw a ton of interest over the next month. Whether it’s the Pens, Leafs, Caps, they’ll all call about Daley.
Another player? Nick Jensen. It’ll surprise people what Detroit gets for him. He’s a solid playet who battles every night. Sometimes loses battles but in this new NHL, he’s quick and moves the puck well. They’ll get a 2nd for him and maybe another 3rd or 4th thrown in. He’d be great fit in Pittsburgh tempo wise.
Highly doubt they’ll get a first for Howard. Maybe Columbus could be a fit, as they move Bob but Wings probably have to settle for a pretty good prospect. A young player like Texier and a 3rd. Something like that. Just can’t see a 1st unless someone like Holtby or Rask goes down. Then it’s a no brainer for either team. As for the Oilers, I can’t see it unless they really want to commit to him beyond this season.
The player who they’ll end up getting a first or high end prospect for is Trevor Daley. Perfect fit for Leafs. Maybe a Daley/Lillegren + Deal or a first and something else. Daley is the exact type of move the Leafs need and will probably draw a ton of interest over the next month. Whether it’s the Pens, Leafs, Caps, they’ll all call about Daley.
Another player? Nick Jensen. It’ll surprise people what Detroit gets for him. He’s a solid playet who battles every night. Sometimes loses battles but in this new NHL, he’s quick and moves the puck well. They’ll get a 2nd for him and maybe another 3rd or 4th thrown in. He’d be great fit in Pittsburgh tempo wise.
