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Need this guy!
Definitely not Torts. He can go figure out his issues in the KHL like Keenan. Like Avery stated... players are individuals, and you can't treat all people the same. Some guys respond to yelling and others don't. This guy has one style.
 
of all the available candidates Gallant is the best choice

I hope Drury/Sather/ Dolan all agree and bring this guy on. I was very impressed with the work he did with the Panthers and Knights, this guy is a very good coach and exactly what we need at this time
 
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chosen said:
All top players end up top players without the help of any coach.

Saying Gallant made Barkov and Huberdeau is the same thing as saying Quinn made Fox.
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The only thing is....I never said that !


You misinterpreted what I said and twisted it to what you thought was more suitable for your agenda LOL... happens a lot on here . I forgive you.


With regards to the laughable last comment you made about, " all top players end up top players without the help of any coach "....when do you identify them as "top players" ? Is it when they are in the womb , Pee Wee level , Midget , Junior A or AHL or 1-2 or 3rd years of the NHL ? That's a long route by oneself without coaching along the way .

I challenge you to find me one pro player that has never ever acknowledged a former coach in helping them in their careers along the way of becoming a "top player " .
 
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drewcon40 said:
**I saw this posted on other forums - apologies as I posted this before visiting the other forums. I don't want to step on anyone's posts.


If you guys listen to Real Kyper podcast, go to about 11:05 in (spoiler: Gallant and analytics from Doug MacLean)

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that's absurd.

Why did he get fired in Vegas? Another rift with ownership/management? He might not be a guy thats 'maleable' with others viewpoints... Even if they're from superiors...
 
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duhmetreE said:
... Why did he get fired in Vegas? Another rift with ownership/management? He might not be a guy thats 'maleable' with others viewpoints... Even if they're from superiors...
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the common view, re Vegas move, was they wanted to grab DeBoer while available, that is wasn't really about issue w Gallant
teams make unexpected moves all the time, my rangers, seeming on the right track, just blew it all up ... 8^)

I like Gallant's history blending talented kids with vets, from Nash w CBJ thru Fla and VGK.

And he seems less self-impressed than many of the oft-mentioned alternative retreads.

If he takes team to next level, without a Keenan style purge of young talent, I'd be fine with ~3 seasons, that's typical for most coaches these days
 
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leetch99 said:
The only thing is....I never said that !


You misinterpreted what I said and twisted it to what you thought was more suitable for your agenda LOL... happens a lot on here . I forgive you.


With regards to the laughable last comment you made about, " all top players end up top players without the help of any coach "....when do you identify them as "top players" ? Is it when they are in the womb , Pee Wee level , Midget , Junior A or AHL or 1-2 or 3rd years of the NHL ? That's a long route by oneself without coaching along the way .

I challenge you to find me one pro player that has never ever acknowledged a former coach in helping them in their careers along the way of becoming a "top player " .
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This is what you wrote

..."now.....and that is if gallant is only here for two years and that is what he will instill in this young roster is something that will not hurt us moving forward as all you need to do is look at the success of the Knights while he was there and after and look how Huberdeau/Barkov/and the other kids have turned out...SOLID NHL stars . Gerard Gallant will not hurt us"

Now, you're saying you didn't say Gallant played a major role in the success of Barkov and Huberdeau?

You can't advocate both sides of the same argument.

Yes or no?

Did Gallant play a major role in the development of Barkov and Huberdeau?

If no, then your original statement makes no sense.

If yes, can we similarly conclude that Quinn played a major role in Fox's development?

BTW, thanks for your forgiveness.
 
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cwede said:
the common view, re Vegas move, was they wanted to grab DeBoer while available, that is wasn't really about issue w Gallant
teams make unexpected moves all the time, my rangers, seeming on the right track, just blew it all up ... 8^)

I like Gallant's history blending talented kids with vets, from Nash w CBJ thru Fla and VGK.

And he seems less self-impressed than many of the oft-mentioned alternative retreads.

If he takes team to next level, without a Keenan style purge of young talent, I'd be fine with ~3 seasons, that's typical for most coaches these days
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that's the big thing. He overachieved with FLA. He over achieved with Vegas. What does overachieving with this roster mean? I have high expectations for this roster moving forward

I fully anticipate a coaching carousel every 3-4 years... Need to keep it fresh, unless you get a coach that adapts.
 
duhmetreE said:
that's absurd.

Why did he get fired in Vegas? Another rift with ownership/management? He might not be a guy thats 'maleable' with others viewpoints... Even if they're from superiors...
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I dug in a bit and this is what I was able to put together.

Vegas got off to a slow start, picked it up a bit and then hit a bit of a skid and he got canned. The theory is that a mid season coaching change would wake up the players but the reality is that he was the victim of poor goaltending and shitty shooting luck (they were like 2nd in Corsi and xGF when he was fired. they were in a wild card spot, though only a few points out of 1st in the division, but the expectation was they’d run with the division.)

It’s entirely possible there was more than just that, but this is what I was able to piece together from what’s public.
 
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Gallant got the first great season out of Barkov and the last great season out of both Jokinen, Jagr and Luongo. Reilly Smith also scored 25 goals that season after only 13 in Boston the year prior.
 
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Assuming Drury doesn't want to wait and/or both Brind'Amour and Sullivan keep their jobs, Gallant is my #1 choice given what's available right now. Julien, Torts, Babcock, and Roy are hard no's. Boudreau or Hartley would be ok, probably my 2 and 3 in that order. Boudreau would squeeze as much offense out of this team as possible, but we already struggle defensively and that likely wouldn't improve under him. Hartley is the wildcard. I could see him being a great coach for this young team, if they buy in to his coaching style. If not, it could be ugly.

Gallant is a good blend of everything. He has the experience with coaching a young team with a lot of talent (Florida) and gluing a locker room together (Vegas) - both of which seem to be needs for us right now. I'm not sure about his rep for utilizing vets vs. younger guys, but I have to assume that one of Drury's requirements will be that the new coach prioritizes giving our young core every chance to succeed.
 
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JT Kreider said:
Gallant got the first great season out of Barkov and the last great season out of both Jokinen, Jagr and Luongo. Reilly Smith also scored 25 goals that season after only 13 in Boston the year prior.
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Quinn got the best career seasons from Panarin, Zibanejad, Buchnevich, and Fox turned into a top-3 Dman.

And I hear Quinn might be available.
 
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Skill, skill, skill, it’s a different league. Yeah, right.

Without winning the boards it won’t matter who coaches.

Starting to sink in yet?
 
chosen said:
Huberdeau and Barkov would have ended up stars no matter who coached them.
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What a double standard...

Just about a month ago I was mocked for basically saying the same thing about Adam Fox when people were trying to give David Quinn the credit for his success.

Wasn’t you Chosen, but it was 2 others around here that couldnt let that one go.
 
Uninstaaled said:
I dug in a bit and this is what I was able to put together.

Vegas got off to a slow start, picked it up a bit and then hit a bit of a skid and he got canned. The theory is that a mid season coaching change would wake up the players but the reality is that he was the victim of poor goaltending and shitty shooting luck (they were like 2nd in Corsi and xGF when he was fired. they were in a wild card spot, though only a few points out of 1st in the division, but the expectation was they’d run with the division.)

It’s entirely possible there was more than just that, but this is what I was able to piece together from what’s public.
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This is pretty much spot on. Fleury fell back to average the season after the cup run & was barely NHL starter level the in year 3 when he couldn't stop a beach ball...while Malcolm Subban was terrible. This is why they went out & got Lehner at last years deadline.

To make things worse, the season Gallant was canned the team had a terrible shooting percentage to go along with their issues of actually hitting the net. On the Vegas boards we came up with a drinking game for every time Marchessualt missed the net, which basically turned into the entire team missing the net. But as I said previously, the country club mentality took over a bit as most of the team had recently signed multi year deals. They were taking periods off & trying to turn it on when they felt like it. I don't think the players were tuning out the coach, but more like they felt too comfortable because they had such a good relationship.

When DeBoer got canned late in November, supposedly the McGMs began considering the move to axe Gallant based on the inconsistent play. Ignoring the analytics, they made the change when the team had a bad stretch last January. McCrimmon is a first time GM & it was an opportunity to put his stamp on the organization. As I said in the Quinn thread, the results have been a mixed bag & it wouldn't shock me to see them get ousted by the Wild in the first round.
 
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Anyone know how much Quinn made annually and how much Gallant was being paid annually by Las Vegas? What do you think the Rangers will offer per year and the length of contract?
 
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Anyone know how much Quinn made annually and how much Gallant was being paid annually by Las Vegas? What do you think the Rangers will offer per year and the length of contract?
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Quinn was at 2.4 per.

Not sure about Gallant in vegas.

He's been to a cup final and won a jack adams, I'd think he'd come in around 3.5-4 per on a 5 year deal with his next job?
 
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