Player Discussion Rem Pitlick - The New Byron Edition

Deebs

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Not really. He's put up numbers everywhere he's been, just has been given limited opportunity to make the jump.
He's a .5 ppg player....yeah, those are numbers. Maybe they increase with more playing time but who comes out for him on the top two lines when everyone is healthy?

There's nothing wrong with being a bottom 6 player.
 

CoopersFalls

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He's a .5 ppg player....yeah, those are numbers. Maybe they increase with more playing time but who comes out for him on the top two lines when everyone is healthy?

There's nothing wrong with being a bottom 6 player.

He's 0.5 PPG as a rookie in his first real shot in the big league. I'm not saying he IS a top-6. I'm saying it's too early to say he isn't with any sort of certainty.
 
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Deebs

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He's 0.5 PPG as a rookie in his first real shot in the big league. I'm not saying he IS a top-6. I'm saying it's too early to say he isn't with any sort of certainty.
Nothing is ever certain of course but he's also turning 25 right away, chances are slim but it would be a welcomed surprise.
 

LastWordArmy

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Someone has to score points on crappy teams. And his shooting percentage is kinda unsustainable right now.

Id take him back on contract for one year and see if he can replicate this but Id be wary of money and term. He could just be Oleg Petrov 2.0 instead of Byron (a scorer on a bad team).
 

A55P2

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Someone has to score points on crappy teams. And his shooting percentage is kinda unsustainable right now.

Id take him back on contract for one year and see if he can replicate this but Id be wary of money and term. He could just be Oleg Petrov 2.0 instead of Byron (a scorer on a bad team).

Oleg Petrov had some good years, but not many. If Pitlick could be a prime Petrov for a few years I'd be fine with that.
 

LastWordArmy

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Oleg Petrov had some good years, but not many. If Pitlick could be a prime Petrov for a few years I'd be fine with that.

Petrov is just the guy i look at as a player who can score some points on not good teams, but the moment you are ready to flip the switch and try to win he has too many deficiencies to play significant minutes
 

TannedBum

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He's waiver trash who's having a honeymoon. Wake up people. Nothing in his game indicates that he's anything more.
 

JianYang

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Just the fact we are having these conversations about whether he has a long term future with this club is a win itself.

It's pretty simple at this point. You keep him around, and when the team gets better, or the talent level on the big club gets deeper, it will be time to re-evaluate to see if he remains a peice that they should move forward with.

Until that point comes, just sit back and see what happens.
 

VirginiaMtlExpat

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Right. Not like there's ever been good waiver pickups....
Like Martin St-Louis.
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Redux91

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So you guys want the Byron special?

3*1,5m$
If only that WAS the Byron special, we wouldnt be desperate to ship his and Armia's ridiculous 3.4M salaries
Speaking of Armia
He's waiver trash who's having a honeymoon. Wake up people. Nothing in his game indicates that he's anything more.
Damn, what's that make Armia look like if Rem's already at 4 goals as a hab (11 on the season btw)
And ol Joel has ONE f***ING GOAL in 50 games??
Funny how we play better without him too eh?

Hope Rem gets an affordable 2 year deal, 1.5M per
 

Gillings

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Someone has to score points on crappy teams. And his shooting percentage is kinda unsustainable right now.

Id take him back on contract for one year and see if he can replicate this but Id be wary of money and term. He could just be Oleg Petrov 2.0 instead of Byron (a scorer on a bad team).
1 year contracts are overrated.
 

morhilane

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I like how on HF 24 is old for a player, and they are washed up with no room for improvement. Evans was 24 when given his first real shot at the bigtime. Poehling figured things out this year at 23.

Because by 24-25, the players are locked physically (skills, skating, etc) and most coaches don't try to develop their players Hockey IQ. So yes, 24 is usually "no room for improvement", unless the player has high IQ and can gain Hockey IQ by himself (which is pretty rare).
 

Goalfield13

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Because by 24-25, the players are locked physically (skills, skating, etc) and most coaches don't try to develop their players Hockey IQ. So yes, 24 is usually "no room for improvement", unless the player has high IQ and can gain Hockey IQ by himself (which is pretty rare).

It isn't rare for bottom 6 players to figure things out later, really. Top 6, yes.
 

Redux91

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Because by 24-25, the players are locked physically (skills, skating, etc) and most coaches don't try to develop their players Hockey IQ. So yes, 24 is usually "no room for improvement", unless the player has high IQ and can gain Hockey IQ by himself (which is pretty rare).
So...what you want a team of just 20 yr olds..?
 

morhilane

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So...what you want a team of just 20 yr olds..?

What's the link with players not physically progressing past 25 years old? And no, a lots of 20 years old aren't physically mature enough for the NHL, even if their Hockey IQ is ready.

Players start their prime around 25 years old and that ends around 30-31 years old. That's technically the age range you want your best players to be at to have a really good team.
 

CAUFIELD

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If only that WAS the Byron special, we wouldnt be desperate to ship his and Armia's ridiculous 3.4M salaries
Speaking of Armia

Damn, what's that make Armia look like if Rem's already at 4 goals as a hab (11 on the season btw)
And ol Joel has ONE f***ING GOAL in 50 games??
Funny how we play better without him too eh?

Hope Rem gets an affordable 2 year deal, 1.5M per
1st Byron deal after being the habs took him
On waivers was 3years*1,1m$.

that’s why I put 3*1,5m$
 

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