Reid Boucher pleads guilty to sex crime involving 12 year old

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Dr Pepper

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"Like all of the major sports" implies that it's a systemic issue in the way elite athletes are treated by society as a whole, which seems like a fair generalization.

Narrowing the issue down to a group of people because of their sport of choice would be an unfair generalization.

I saw nothing wrong with what was initially quoted.

Most hockey players, most PEOPLE, in general, are good people.
 
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You clearly have zero idea on what the loss of freedom entails.

Just for fun why don't you go to a hotel, heck a 5 star hotel and not leave for a week, enjoy the cable, room service heck everything like that just don't leave the room ever and don't have friends over and tell me it's not a big deal.

People's perception on the loss of freedom, or going to jail is truly distorted as is their sense of justice or punishment which seems to be stuck in medieval times for some strange reason.

The HF Boards can sometimes be a great place to discuss hockey and even then some people often give little or no thought to what they say, but it is rarely a place to discuss larger social issues or problems without devolving into a complete waste of time and thought and instead just turns into a mob mentality and hysteria.

Boucher has been dealt with the court system and no doubt having even a little bit of fame he will not get off Scott free like some are suggesting here but it's pretty obvious that HF boards is perhaps the last place to even discuss serious solutions to these types of problems in society.

Basically me anytime I go away for business trips outside of a handful of hours where I go out
 
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The one situation where I support the death penalty for a crime where the victim didn't die.
I can also live with pedophiles not being allowed to be free ever again, but it should also be definite and not getting out after some time served.
In a way, the victim did die.
Being raped as a child murders your soul.
No amount of therapy can erase the damage. You learn to live with it, but it never goes away.
 

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In a way, the victim did die.
Being raped as a child murders your soul.
No amount of therapy can erase the damage. You learn to live with it, but it never goes away.

Yep that is true.
I did also read a news article that one of the 10 most sought after issues in Finland's sex health line are people with pedophilic tendencies who are afraid that they might act out.
So many of these people understand that this is wrong and there is help available, and I can even respect people who know they are ill but don't want to hurt anyone.
It is only unbelievably selfish monsters who instead choose to use children to satisfy their sexual desires.
 

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Also I know nothing about billeting but having a 17 year old male hockey player and a 12 year old girl in the same house might be something that gets looked at?

Yup.

I don't care if the guy is hailed as a future superstar who will break Gretzky's records, I'm NOT lodging a stranger hockey player as long as I have daughters in my house.
 

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Also I know nothing about billeting but having a 17 year old male hockey player and a 12 year old girl in the same house might be something that gets looked at?

Ideally having billets with older children than the player is a better situation right?

Yup.

I don't care if the guy is hailed as a future superstar who will break Gretzky's records, I'm NOT lodging a stranger hockey player as long as I have daughters in my house.

I disagree completely with this. If you had put me as a 17 year old hockey player in the same house as one or more super hot (12-14 years old - if you are allowed to label girls at that age as hot) I would never in a million years abuse them sexually or act inapproriate to them in any way. And neither would 99% of all other people who are decent normally functioning human beings. After all we are mankind and not animals.

The notion that you cant house people in the same household to prevent black-mailing and sexual assault that happens in like 1 in a million cases does not hold up, then we have to take extreme meausures in a other situations as well to prevent any possible abuse from happening. To have the audicity to abuse a family member of a family you are staying with is just unreal.

Sadly though its telling that you specify hockey player and not just a 17 year or older stranger, its damning that hockey players have some kind of reputation for being assholes/sexual perverts and thats definitely something that needs to change.
 
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I disagree completely with this. If you had put me as a 17 year old hockey player in the same house as one or more super hot (12-14 years old - if you are allowed to label girls at that age as hot) I would never in a million years abuse them sexually or act inapproriate to them in any way. And neither would 99% of all other people who are decent normally functioning human beings. After all we are mankind and not animals.

The notion that you cant house people in the same household to prevent black-mailing and sexual assault that happens in like 1 in a million cases does not hold up, then we have to take extreme meausures in a other situations as well to prevent any possible abuse from happening. To have the audicity to abuse a family member of a family you are staying with is just unreal.

Sadly though its telling that you specify hockey player and not just a 17 year or older stranger, its damning that hockey players have some kind of reputation for being assholes/sexual perverts and thats definitely something that needs to change.

Yes, I specified hockey players. I could add soldiers too. Or really any instance of young, impressionable males adhering to groups where cohesion is vital for success and where the culture is toxic as f*** and everyone tries to outdo each other.

The fact not hockey players are like this is not an argument. I get it. You're a good person. I have no reason to doubt you either. But here's the thing. I'd rather not take these kind of risks with my children.
 

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Yup.

I don't care if the guy is hailed as a future superstar who will break Gretzky's records, I'm NOT lodging a stranger hockey player as long as I have daughters in my house.
Reminds me of that show "Abducted In Plain Sight" about the people who let their child's abuser move into their home. Not saying this young girl's parents are on the same level of idiocy and "sweep it under the rug" as in the documentary, but that type of scenario should have never been enabled.
 
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So maybe the billet system is flawed, why don't they put these junior kids in a dorms or something?
 

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As far as I understand both sides knew about the case since the begining, and nobody did anyhing. Boucher didn't run away and hide, the girl's parents didn't go to police and started the investigation. I mean Boucher even played at WJC despite Hockey USA knew about the story. But 10 years later the other side all of a sudden changed their minds and blamed him in raping. So why are people that much surprised that court did basically nothing to Boucher and the KHL hasn't thrown him away?
What I don't understand is why the father didn't rip Boucher limb from limb. My hubby said that's what he would have done.
 
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So maybe the billet system is flawed, why don't they put these junior kids in a dorms or something?

These non-existent dorms? The billet system is used, because these kids need somewhere safe to live. Nobody is funding some dorm situation for these kids, because there would need to be many and it would be super costly to whoever had them built.
 

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I disagree completely with this. If you had put me as a 17 year old hockey player in the same house as one or more super hot (12-14 years old - if you are allowed to label girls at that age as hot) I would never in a million years abuse them sexually or act inapproriate to them in any way. And neither would 99% of all other people who are decent normally functioning human beings. After all we are mankind and not animals.

The notion that you cant house people in the same household to prevent black-mailing and sexual assault that happens in like 1 in a million cases does not hold up, then we have to take extreme meausures in a other situations as well to prevent any possible abuse from happening. To have the audicity to abuse a family member of a family you are staying with is just unreal.

Sadly though its telling that you specify hockey player and not just a 17 year or older stranger, its damning that hockey players have some kind of reputation for being assholes/sexual perverts and thats definitely something that needs to change.

Wayne Gretzky used to get off the elevator if a woman came onto it and no one else was on, it's about absolute awareness, sure I can walk out into traffic without looking and 99% of the time cars will stop for me but it's not the best idea really is it?

Hockey has a history of hazing and other stuff and in general 17 year old boys who are strangers in a house with teen or almost teen girls can be potentially more of a problem than say billeting players with older couples with no children at home, it's all about a % play.

Obviously what Boucher did was horrible and no defendable but let's let the system deal with him and it's pretty obvious that being a his visibility person is going to follow him around for the rest of his life.
 
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