Sounds more like this was a fight and the loser who is the race car driver got his butt beat and is now being a sore loser.
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At 6'0 and 200 lbs Sprong is big but not huge, but aren't IndyCar drivers tiny little dudes with ridiculous strong necks? or is that just F1?
It seems unlikely there will be extenuating circumstances that will make this a better look for Sprong.
It seems unlikely there will be extenuating circumstances that will make this a better look for Sprong.
Yeah, throwing the first punch rarely seems good.
The race driver has a history ofå being an asshole, threatening other drivers. I would like to hear both sides of this story.
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It really just sounds like a couple of drunks mouthing off except one didn't expect there to be fists involved. Do the pictures look bad? Yes. Should Sprong have shown more restraint? Likely. Do I think the driver is an angel? No.
Also, this happened back in June and he's just now coming out with it?
Also, this happened back in June and he's just now coming out with it?
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I was gonna say that the most judicious remedy here would be court-ordered back-checking. It’s like community service but for forwards and with high G/60 stats.
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tiny dudes? You’re thinking of Jockeys.
Indy drivers come in all sizes but they Are all very athletic and strong.
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They basically are jockeys. I don't know about indycar but in F1 they're usually around 5'10 and 150 lbs soaking wet.tiny dudes? You’re thinking of Jockeys.
Wiry but skinny. Taller guys have a harder time fitting in the cockpit and unneeded muscle is extra weight.
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Not a great look, but in a game where fighting is promoted by the league and cheered for by fans, it seems a little hypercritical to terminate a contract over a bar fight.
Now if he attacked this guy for no reason that is one thing. But if its just two idiots getting into a fight at a bar and one idiot was just a lot tougher then the other idiot, I don't see this as a big deal.
Now if he attacked this guy for no reason that is one thing. But if its just two idiots getting into a fight at a bar and one idiot was just a lot tougher then the other idiot, I don't see this as a big deal.
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Total mixed bag for IndyCar.
No info on DeMelo, but he appears to be on the shorter end of the spectrum. From the articles I've read, sounds like he's all bark no bite, and Sprong decided to get physical. Though I suppose punching a Canadian isn't like punching a real person.
In any case, it would be hypocritical for a sport that allows fighting during play to suspend a player for fighting, lol. Let the law sort it out. Sounds like he's after money more than anything.
What's acceptable in the context of sports is very different than what's acceptable in the rest of the world. There's nothing hypocritical about that.
And even in the context of sports, players can be held accountable for their behavior that crosses the threshold of what's considered safe. Held liable both via league punishment and the legal system. This has already happened several times.
Unless it's the most clear cut case of self-defense, there's no scenario where giving someone a concussion and rearranging someone's face to require multiple surgeries is going to be "not a big deal" even if everyone involved is a certified idiot and was provoking the encounter.
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You'll be surprised, when I lived in Brighton, there was a fight at least once a month. Even when there were injuries involved, the worst anyone got was drunk and disorderly plea with probation, usually a year. It all depends on the DA, and assuming this was in Detroit, the DA probably has a lot more to worry about than a washed out race car driver getting sucker punched for being stupid. Detroit averages close to one murder a day.
I dunno about you guys, but I learned something here. If you're gonna sucker punch someone, wear a big ring. I assume that's how the teeth got chipped.
Punishments from situations like this usually are more severe in the civil side of things, rather than criminal.
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When alcohol is involved anything is possible. Aaron Hernanadez killed 2 guys because they spilled a drink on him.
I like this guy more now than when we signed him. The Dutch Cannon lives baby
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I want to start off by saying that I very much respect your opinion, and quite frankly I probably agree with 99% of what you have to say, however in this instance its the 1%. Maybe I didn't explain myself as detailed as I should have, or maybe we just have to agree to disagree.
The NHL has profited off of fighting in a very dangerous setting for decades. Players have historically been encouraged by coaches, GM's and teammates to fight and I don't think there is any disputing that. A culture has been created where if someone "crosses" you or a teammate, its ok to drop the gloves and throw a punch, if it wasn't ok the penalty for it would be more then 5min off the ice. For a player to have that same mindset in the real world after being encouraged their entire lives by the hockey community IMO is not surprising. Does this mean its ok to fight in a bar because someone pisses you off? Of course not. Would I do it? No. However, for the NHL to terminate a players contract because he threw one punch in a bar fight, yes I think that considering the culture of the NHL that is hypocritical (I think I forgot to quote the person I meant to reply to, maybe that made my comment come off the wrong way). Does that mean that I think fighting in real life is identical to fighting on the ice? No, I agree with you there.
I was clear in my original statement that if Sprong attacked him, that is not ok and needs to be dealt with. An attack and a fight are two different things. If this was a fight where both parties consented, but one party was simply significantly better at fighting then the other, while it sucks that one party got hurt as badly as he did, but if all that damage was caused by 1 punch I don't think it will be considered big deal by the NHL. Now if Sprong unloaded on him punch after punch and absolutely pummeled him as he laid there unconscious, that is a different story.
I apologize if my lack of context made my comments look on the callus side (reading them back I can see how they may), but this is a much more detailed breakdown of my opinion. If you firmly still disagree, then I respectfully agree to disagree.
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I think you missed the point of the documentary, Aaron Hernandez was living in the closet and killed people who knew.
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I'm pretty sure Aaron Hernandez had something else going on behind the scenes...
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