Red Wings quietly have the deepest defensive group in the league

[Handshot]

Having a top 5 goalie in an 8 team division is a neat way of saying you have below average goaltending within the division

 

[Jumptheshark]

Ghost and Petry are both on their last legs. Anyone starting a discussion where they are key parts of the theory is highly questionable

 

[wetcoast]

There are alot of D cores I take over Detroits with very little hesitation. NJ is much better. Outside of Seider who's a legit top 4 capable of carrying a pairing?....

Agree with this.

Seider is by far the best of the four young d you named. I'm taking him and Edvinsson any day over Hughes and nemec.

Man I love Seider but this sounds like a poll question to me.

That D corps is like taking a huge dump, but it comes out fast, clean and in one continuous coil. You are pretty happy, in the context of having a dump.

Man did you really have to go there?

Mind you I was eating when I read this but still.......

 

[Conbon]

Probably should have kept that one quiet and pretend you never thought it later on

 

[Pavels Dog]

Probably should have kept that one quiet and pretend you never thought it later on

Many people are saying

 

[norrisnick]

I think Gostisbehere-Petry-Maatta might be the worst bottom 3 in the NHL

Meme thread is meme thread, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with Maatta.

 

[wintersej]

Not to get into a dick measuring contest here, but

Slavin - Burns
Orlov - Pesce
Skjei - DeAngelo
Jones - Chatfield
Coghlan

Canes are carrying two guys in the press box who played complete seasons last year. Their #9 man has 105 games of NHL experience at age 25.

Only two of those players are over 30 (Burns and Orlov) and according to HF’s recent poll series, the top pair is two of the top-25 defensemen in the league. Orlov, Pesce, Skjei would all be strong contenders for top-50 placement as well.

Best D in the league.

 

[nickdawg95]

CBJ has a top 5 blueline in the league imo


Werenski-Boqvist
Provorov-Severon
Bean-Peake
Jiricek-Gudbranson

 

[wintersej]

CBJ has a top 5 blueline in the league imo


Werenski-Boqvist
Provorov-Severon
Bean-Peake
Jiricek-Gudbranson

It’s a group with high potential for sure, but to call them top 5 means projecting growth, bounce back and chemistry/fit that has question marks.

 

[nickdawg95]

It’s a group with high potential for sure, but to call them top 5 means projecting growth, bounce back and chemistry/fit that has question marks.

Agreed, Me personally I expect big things for CBJ IF Werenski can stay healthy and if Provorov can bounce back and lock down that 2nd pairing. with 2 of Boqvist severon peake to compliment them nicely

 

[Youngguns1380]

Top ten maybe - top five overly optimistic and deepest not even close (Boston, Vegas, New Jersey, Carolina)

 

[Conbon]

Rip

 

[Ezekial]

Rip

I think he'll survive seeing as last year the bottom 3 D were Hagg, Oesterle, and Lindstrom.

 

[Tralfamadore]

So quiet I can't hear a thing.

 

[RedWingzz]

It's better and deeper than last season for sure, but deepest in the league...? Not even remotely close....

 

[Unspecified]

The Pens just got a guy who got a 100 points by himself.

Who doesn't play defense

 

[Tufted Titmouse]

Rip

truth

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

I can't really find any other team aside from Vegas and Boston that has a more well rounded, balanced and potential threat line up than the Wings.

Gostisbehere, Petry, Määttä, that's 90-100 points alone from #4-6 guys. I don't think there's any team with that kind of scoring punch from depth d-men. Not to mention Seider having a down year last season due to Chiarot reasons. He's easily good for 50 points from the blueline.

Then you have another potential 20 points and 50+ PIM from Chiarot, and Walman who could definitely build on last season potting perhaps another 30pts along with great analytics. That's not even mentioning Holl who could be another Larry Murphy type player who thrives when going from Toronto to Detroit. Even Edvinsson could be good for 20-30 points including 5-10 goals.

Husso is a top 5 goaltender in the division, and there's Larkin and Copp (albeit overpaid) are 2 elite two-way forwards who make their wingers much better than they are (Perron, Fabbri, Raymond and Debrincat).

With the amount of team defense this team has with the additions of Compher, Kostin and Fischer, having a bit weaker scoring forwards is manageable. Wings were good at limiting high-danger chances last season even with atrocious depth, in large part thanks to Lalonde and his brains. Special teams was an issue but that should be improved.

I just can't really think of a more well balanced group, especially the defensive group, with an average age of 29 years old.

As a detroit fan... Buffalo, Rangers Avs alone all still eclipse detroits d lol. Come on man

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

CBJ has a top 5 blueline in the league imo


Werenski-Boqvist
Provorov-Severon
Bean-Peake
Jiricek-Gudbranson

Top 5 now? Not at all.

Extremely high potential to get there in a few years though. Their U23 roster as a whole is very solid.

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

I know a lot of people are laughing at this thread, but I do think Detroit certainly has a pretty deep d-core. They have 7 guys who all played over 18 minutes per game last year.

On the other hand, it looks better on paper than what it actually is. Some are old or have been at points whipping boys on their past teams.

But for the regular season I think depth is good to have. If you add Edvinsson in the mix, I don't think the Red Wings are too concerned who is in the lineup night in night out. If someone visibly sucks, it's not a big deal.

 

[GordieHowYaDoin]

I’d take the Devils D core over Wings‘ 100 times out of 100.
Hamilton , Hughes , Nemec , Marino , Seigenthaler , Bahl .
Very good mix IMO with having each pair with an offense style paired with a stay at home guy .
All are good at moving the puck and Hughes and Nemec have the potential to be elite at it.
Just my two cents but I think Luke and Nemec will be as good or better than Seider amd Edvinsson. Then Hamilton is better than any other D on Detroit, then have Marino Seigs who are elite defensively. Bahl played very well agajnst the Rangers in the playoffs and showed glimpses of being physically dominant and able to defend very well.

No love for Seamus Casey?!

 

[CherryToke]

Hook line and sinker. Well done OP

 

[The Red Line]

Normally I'm the first to rush to defend the Wings on these boards, but this thread is waaay premature. Let's wait to see them play some games before we declare anything.

For one thing, they're still in a very tough division. Even if they've improved the roster quite a bit with good depth, they are still missing the high end talent that most of their divisional opponents have.

I like Husso but saying he's top 5 in the division isn't saying much at all.

While I don't hate Holl and Chiarot as universally as most folks do, they're far from top tier defenders and could actually end up hurting the team defense more than helping.

There's plenty to be optimistic about as a Wings fan, but this type of thread is just set up for ridicule.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Normally I'm the first to rush to defend the Wings on these boards, but this thread is waaay premature.

This thread is a satire of a post from last year around this time that the Canucks quietly had the deepest forward group in the League. That one was a bit more subtle, this one more obvious, but it basically mirrors the exact post and just swipes out Red Wing DMan specific things.

 

[Aurinko]

Best D in the league.

It should be with a marin, plus there are lot of 2way centers. Canes should be a lock to best Goals Against even if the goalies struggle.