Post-Game Talk: Ready. Set. Terrible | Jets lose 4-1

[ps241]

This is why I agree with having character as a high priority in drafting. Our compete level is too inconsistent as a team. To be fair every team has bad gmes but I see a troubling pattern which to me indicates we are lacking enough character with this group.

 

[DarthMonty]

In the cold light of early morning, this loss looks worse than it did last night. Losing the game whilst all other divisional teams won has knocked the Jets back a few paces, plus the next 14 games will be played within 26 days, so there's no time for major corrections in the game plans. The team has run out of time and can't afford to lose very many more if the play-offs are an expectation.

The Jets had very few players that competed last night, and it's unrealistic to expect Ladd, Kane and Wright to carry the play each and every night. Not one other player put in any extended effort, and some players floated, to put it mildly.

Had I been playing last night, I would've ended up in a couple of confrontations with my own bench. I hate losing, I hated losing when I played competitively, and I can't even make it through a sedate game of cribbage without getting angry, most games. It might be bad visuals, but maybe the Jets "leaders" need to publicly redress the floaters. Any player, considered one of the "leaders" of the Jets, should be addressing this during practices or in the locker-room, and if it takes place in public, well, so be it. It's time for the Jet players to be held accountable for substandard performances. If the coaching staff can't motivate the players, it's time the coaches were put in the spotlight as well.

Still frickin' angry. The rant doesn't end here. There will be more, oh yes, there will be more.

 

[Back in the Bigs]

In the cold light of early morning, this loss looks worse than it did last night. Losing the game whilst all other divisional teams won has knocked the Jets back a few paces, plus the next 14 games will be played within 26 days, so there's no time for major corrections in the game plans. The team has run out of time and can't afford to lose very many more if the play-offs are an expectation.

The Jets had very few players that competed last night, and it's unrealistic to expect Ladd, Kane and Wright to carry the play each and every night. Not one other player put in any extended effort, and some players floated, to put it mildly.

Had I been playing last night, I would've ended up in a couple of confrontations with my own bench. I hate losing, I hated losing when I played competitively, and I can't even make it through a sedate game of cribbage without getting angry, most games. It might be bad visuals, but maybe the Jets "leaders" need to publicly redress the floaters. Any player, considered one of the "leaders" of the Jets, should be addressing this during practices or in the locker-room, and if it takes place in public, well, so be it. It's time for the Jet players to be held accountable for substandard performances. If the coaching staff can't motivate the players, it's time the coaches were put in the spotlight as well.

Still frickin' angry. The rant doesn't end here. There will be more, oh yes, there will be more.

yep, not to worry, I'm sure this team will supply you with ample opportunity to lose your mind over the next couple of weeks
.... no excuse for guys not hustling their ***** off on every shift.. if our guys actually take another team too lightly in a situation like last night, there needs to be changes...
playoffs? seriously, playoffs?

 

[King Woodballs]

Everyone needs to step back off the ledge.
In the famous words of one Mr Dennis Green.... They are who we thought they were.

Nothing is going to change, at least until this offseason at best.
It will probably take a couple more years after that as well.
No sense having a stroke over it.

Move on to tomorrow's game, hope they show more in the effort department, thats forsure.

 

[CorgisPer60]

Everyone needs to step back off the ledge.
In the famous words of one Mr Dennis Green.... They are who we thought they were.

Nothing is going to change, at least until this offseason at best.
It will probably take a couple more years after that as well.
No sense having a stroke over it.

Move on to tomorrow's game, hope they show more in the effort department, thats forsure.

This. This is still last year's team. Yes, there has been some growth on team play, but anyone who expected an instant contender with minimal roster moves is kidding themselves.

 

[SensibleGuy]

Yeah, they probably will come out hard against Tampa. I mean they couldn't possibly come out flat like last night again could they? could they?? Sadly, that seems to be about the most we can expect from these guys - one, maybe two good efforts then back to last night.

Y'know it's funny really. Watching the Jets play I kinda get the feeling they actually think they are better than they are. All I see all game long is them attempting to make "cute" plays like those quick little flick passes off the boards instead of just trying to control the puck. I mean this is a team that seems to have trouble just completing a simple pass cleanly much of the time and yet we've got them attempting behind the back no-look one-timer bounce passes out of the D zone. And I'm not real happy with the big guns either. I didn't see much last night from Kane or Ladd or anyone. How is it possible for us to go up against that FLA line-up last night and our only scoring comes from Wellwood? Wheeler is doing nothing more than spinning his wheels. Bad ump bump!

 

[PhilJets]

I hate when the jets losses, but I would sacrifice this year to get a McKinnon, Drouin or barkov.. If it means the jets will be in contention two years down from there on end..

Jets just need to plug some few ends

Kane McKinnon wheeler
Ladd schiefele telegin/ufa
Lowry burmistrov little
Whoever the 4th line... As long as they are big, fights and hit hit hit!

Enstrom byfuglien
Trouba bogosian
Whoever as long as they will punish every forward that gets in a way off pavelec

Pavelec

 

[Guerzy]

Really liked seeing Burmi and Antropov laughing it up at the end of the bench while they were benched in the third when the Panthers were up 4-1!

The 'old school' guy in me agrees with you Sip. I think many in the game would look at that and not agree with it. Nobody is asking anyone to vandalize anything, bust sticks, throw water bottles, or act like someone with an uncontrollable temper, it's all about focus and taking things seriously. I mean, would you see Messier, Sakic, Francis, Yzerman crackings jokes as they were getting there jocks handed to them? not in a million years. Even the worthiest players in the game today, checking line player or top line player likely wouldn't pull that crap. Maybe instead of cracking jokes, discuss what it is your pathetic ***** can do next shift so you don't get stapled to the bench again.

Then there will be some that say, these guys aren't robots, etc.

At the end of the day, ya, I personally would have liked to see a more 'focused' presence from Burmistrov and Antropov there. When I saw it, it crossed my mind. I hope people within our organization saw it and I hope it doesn't sit well with them.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Ugh. Typical night for the Jets. Everything lines up for them, and they come out completely flat. Florida is DECIMATED with injuries. Those AHL call-ups are going to provide tons of energy, if nothing else. They did exactly that - their will to win was huge. Jets will to win - non-existent.

IMHO: I don't care where we draft this year. Skill level on this team SHOULD be enough to win games. The inconsistent WILL to win is the most troubling aspect of the team, not the skill level.

Being a gritty, tough to play against team that pots goals as a group, and occassionally fails when giving 100% - I can get behind that. Having a line-up littered with top 10 picks that displays so little care for wanting to win - inexcusable.

Some telling things on the bench: Little, sitting there shaking his head. Similar to what Enstrom did earlier in the year when they got blown out. I can't tell if it's that they're frustrated with their own play, the teams play, or both. Burmi and Antro stapled to the end of the bench, laughing and joking. Not a good visual.

Ah well, onwards and upwards: I KNOW that Scheifele has a will to win, I know that Lowry has that same burning desire, and as much as Sutter may have taken a step back in Junior this year, he does as well. Add other gritty players with some skill like Olsen and Kosmo, and perhaps that upcoming group can help give this team a much needed heart transplant.

Want to forget this game - bring on Tampa!

 

[DarthMonty]

Everyone needs to step back off the ledge.
In the famous words of one Mr Dennis Green.... They are who we thought they were.

Nothing is going to change, at least until this offseason at best.
It will probably take a couple more years after that as well.
No sense having a stroke over it.

Move on to tomorrow's game, hope they show more in the effort department, thats forsure.

Yes, you're right, and there's not too many rational fans that will argue the point.

However, whether the Jets talent level puts them in first or last place overall, 100% effort is expected, from every player in every game. Period.

Personally, I would be more forgiving if the Jets were in last place overall and gave a complete effort - I can live with that, knowing the team was bested by a superior opponent as long as the team worked their collective ***** off. What I can't stomach is a lackluster effort in losing to a team that we as fans had every right to expect the Jets to beat.

Are there any Jets fans who watched last night's game content with the result? No. Why should the players be satisfied with that effort? Point me out ONE, just one, Jets defenceman who showed up to play for an entire shift, let alone the entire game. Please. Or, show me one forward that gave it his all for an entire period. Not even the game, I'll settle for an entire period. Even Wright was guilty of uninspired play for a few shifts.

This is unacceptable. The Jets are not good enough, nor deep enough, to not have the entire team contribute for the whole game.


Arghhhhh....I am so frustrated right now. I lived through Jets 1.0 doing this for entire seasons, and I worry that we're watching history repeat itself.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

(...)

Arghhhhh....I am so frustrated right now. I lived through Jets 1.0 doing this for entire seasons, and I worry that we're watching history repeat itself.

Thankfully, Chevy has been a winner at every level, and it appears that his desire for character to factor into drafts as much as skill will eventually give us a team that will NOT quit, as they did last night. I may question some of his moves, but I have no doubt that he will eventually put together a team that won't be questioned for their work effort and will to win.

IMHO, of course.

 

[Guerzy]

Ugh. Typical night for the Jets. Everything lines up for them, and they come out completely flat. Florida is DECIMATED with injuries. Those AHL call-ups are going to provide tons of energy, if nothing else. They did exactly that - their will to win was huge. Jets will to win - non-existent.

IMHO: I don't care where we draft this year. Skill level on this team SHOULD be enough to win games. The inconsistent WILL to win is the most troubling aspect of the team, not the skill level.

Being a gritty, tough to play against team that pots goals as a group, and occassionally fails when giving 100% - I can get behind that. Having a line-up littered with top 10 picks that displays so little care for wanting to win - inexcusable.

Some telling things on the bench: Little, sitting there shaking his head. Similar to what Enstrom did earlier in the year when they got blown out. I can't tell if it's that they're frustrated with their own play, the teams play, or both. Burmi and Antro stapled to the end of the bench, laughing and joking. Not a good visual.

Ah well, onwards and upwards: I KNOW that Scheifele has a will to win, I know that Lowry has that same burning desire, and as much as Sutter may have taken a step back in Junior this year, he does as well. Add other gritty players with some skill like Olsen and Kosmo, and perhaps that upcoming group can help give this team a much needed heart transplant.

Want to forget this game - bring on Tampa!

Well said as always YWG, agree with it all.

I think we can get a better sense now of what Chevy and co. are targeting in the draft with character players who possess good qualities. I think you nailed it in the fact guys like Scheifele, Lowry, Sutter, Trouba, etc.. these kids appear at a young age to have some good qualities about them. Hopefully within the next 1-3 years they can be bringing those qualities to Winnipeg.

I can't wait for roster turnover to take it's course. I am getting very sick and tired of this team and it's antics, and it's not just this season, it dates back to last season too. That is what is so worrisome and telling about this team. I don't care to see a team lose but show the effort, passion, desire and heart to want to win, we failed miserably in those categories last night and for the 2nd and 3rd period vs. the Caps Sunday it was the same song and dance. Get rid of some of these bums, turn the page, open some eyes, begin the turnover of the roster. It'll be an exciting day when that happens, in my own opinion. This isn't me overreacting based on one game, this is me after seeing enough of this group over nearly 2 years to not have a good feeling about them.

 

[SCP Guy]

This is how I feel this morning.......

 

[Captain Willard]

I gave up watching after the 4th goal and was surfing center ice, why does every team have to play one night then nothing the next, and watched the Hawks against the Wild. Holy crap! Talk about compete level! The 'Hawks would tear through the Jets like kleenex at a snot party. Here's the thing, the 'Hawks have a wicked point streak going, but the reason their talent is uber talent is their commitment to playing that coveted 100%, btw Oduya looked pretty good out there as well. I don't know what it is that some of these 'Jets' are having issue with, if they feel that .500 hockey is good enough but talent will not be talent in any league if there is no effort and there was none of it last night in Sunrise. Nobody was willing to chip and chase to get the zone, and the way the Panthers were playing a perfect 1-4-1 that's the only option you have, sorry guys. Nobody is willing to go to the net to get the greasy goals, they all have to be awesome wristers for some reason scored from the faceoff circles and trying to keep the zone with all 3 forwards working the boards all night, seriously? All the Panthers have to do is throw the puck out to the slot because they know there's no Jet there and one of their guys picks it up and out it goes. Brutal.

 

[Gump Hasek]

Really liked seeing Burmi and Antropov laughing it up at the end of the bench while they were benched in the third when the Panthers were up 4-1!

Well, Antro will likely be gone by season end. Yet if you read any of the weekly Burmistrov support threads here you can note that his enthusiasts all rave about his supposed "drive, hunger, passion, yada yada yada". That wishful thinking runs counter to what we all saw last night.

According to Lawless last season Antropov is the only one on the team that Burmistrov listens to.

Burmistrov doesn't like to listen to veteran teammates or the Jets coaching staff when they try to correct a flaw in his game. "He doesn't like to be told what to do. He response is always, 'No respect, no respect,'" said one Jets veteran, when asked this season about Burmistrov. "His English isn't great and he gets his back up. He gets defensive. The only guy that can talk to him is Antro (Nik Antropov)."

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...going-to-russia-st-johns-maybe-149618985.html

Hopefully Chevy trades the both of them ASAP. Fill the holes with Cormier & Wright for now. Time to move out some Thrashers.

 

[koth]

Really liked seeing Burmi and Antropov laughing it up at the end of the bench while they were benched in the third when the Panthers were up 4-1!

Antro may be a more of a negative on Burmi's game than we know.

To be fair to Antropov, it was only Burmistrov who was laughing. Antropov honestly looked like he didn't want to be part of whatever Burmistrov was telling him.

 

[Denny 204]

1. Thank god I missed the game
2. Fire Noel, Hire Ruff
3. Chevy should make a deal that involves more than a useless pick or a 4th line loser.


This post was Fueled by anger lol

 

[truck]

According to Lawless last season Antropov is the only one on the team that Burmistrov listens to.
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/sp...going-to-russia-st-johns-maybe-149618985.html

Hopefully Chevy trades the both of them ASAP. Fill the holes with Cormier & Wright for now. Time to move out some Thrashers.

Yet every other report by every other reporter and all of his ex coaches rave about Burmi's dedication, desire to learn and professionalism.

 

[Grind]

To be fair to Antropov, it was only Burmistrov who was laughing. Antropov honestly looked like he didn't want to be part of whatever Burmistrov was telling him.

that is what i felt watching it. It looked like burmi was laughing abotu something and antro wasn't paying any attention at all. antro looked down on himself.

 

[Grind]

love that show.

 

[HannuJ]

Thankfully, Chevy has been a winner at every level, and it appears that his desire for character to factor into drafts as much as skill will eventually give us a team that will NOT quit, as they did last night. I may question some of his moves, but I have no doubt that he will eventually put together a team that won't be questioned for their work effort and will to win.

IMHO, of course.

people can't expect him to fix the mistakes of his predecessors in 2 off seasons - one of which was a strike-interrupted off-season.

truth be told, this is probably a damn good season for the Jets to be picking in the top 10 in the upcoming draft.

Calgary and Colorado have played 2 and 1 less game respectively than the Jets , and i assume Florida and Columbus will be the 2 worst teams at the end of the year.

Washington may be playing better and have 2 less games than Wpg.

Don't kid yourselves, people. the Jets may indeed finish 3rd worst this year. Considering the compressed schedule and the horrible travel schedule, it is a real possibility.

now, do I think this team really is the 3rd worst in the league? no. Replace Hainsey with Trouba and hopefully get rid of Stuart with an upgrade and you have one hell of a defensive core.

we're also lacking a star on offense. was hoping Wheeler would take the next step, but he has disappointed me greatly. perhaps a great selection in this coming draft plus Schiefele will finally put some fear back on O.

 

[ps241]

Thankfully, Chevy has been a winner at every level, and it appears that his desire for character to factor into drafts as much as skill will eventually give us a team that will NOT quit, as they did last night. I may question some of his moves, but I have no doubt that he will eventually put together a team that won't be questioned for their work effort and will to win.

IMHO, of course.

Well said as always YWG, agree with it all.

I think we can get a better sense now of what Chevy and co. are targeting in the draft with character players who possess good qualities. I think you nailed it in the fact guys like Scheifele, Lowry, Sutter, Trouba, etc.. these kids appear at a young age to have some good qualities about them. Hopefully within the next 1-3 years they can be bringing those qualities to Winnipeg.

I can't wait for roster turnover to take it's course. I am getting very sick and tired of this team and it's antics, and it's not just this season, it dates back to last season too. That is what is so worrisome and telling about this team. I don't care to see a team lose but show the effort, passion, desire and heart to want to win, we failed miserably in those categories last night and for the 2nd and 3rd period vs. the Caps Sunday it was the same song and dance. Get rid of some of these bums, turn the page, open some eyes, begin the turnover of the roster. It'll be an exciting day when that happens, in my own opinion. This isn't me overreacting based on one game, this is me after seeing enough of this group over nearly 2 years to not have a good feeling about them.

I am with you YWG and Zachy! I made mention of this earlier and I can't state it with enough emphasis this morning. As you said Goj it’s not just a one game issue that I am over reacting to but last night was probably the tipping point for my tolerance. IMO we have a team character issue that predates the move to Winnipeg and is alive and festering.

It is why I endorse having character (compete level) as a high priority in our criteria mix for our draft prospects.

 

[Positive]

Yeah, they probably will come out hard against Tampa. I mean they couldn't possibly come out flat like last night again could they? could they?? Sadly, that seems to be about the most we can expect from these guys - one, maybe two good efforts then back to last night.

Y'know it's funny really. Watching the Jets play I kinda get the feeling they actually think they are better than they are. All I see all game long is them attempting to make "cute" plays like those quick little flick passes off the boards instead of just trying to control the puck. I mean this is a team that seems to have trouble just completing a simple pass cleanly much of the time and yet we've got them attempting behind the back no-look one-timer bounce passes out of the D zone. And I'm not real happy with the big guns either. I didn't see much last night from Kane or Ladd or anyone. How is it possible for us to go up against that FLA line-up last night and our only scoring comes from Wellwood? Wheeler is doing nothing more than spinning his wheels. Bad ump bump!

Well Ladd's first pass to Wellwood was good. And then Wellwood looked good...up until that point where he back-passed to an opponent. Too cute.

 

[adam graves]

Yes shes one of the cheerleaders who can sign and does this at (almost) every game.

Youll get another crack at our farm team friday, good luck in Tampa, see yall in a couple of days.

 

[veganhunter]

Can anyone explain why Burmi was sitting on the bench in the first place? If there is a reason I must have missed it.