RD Logan Mailloux (2021, 31st, MTL)

[SoundAndFury]

Because i think that long term Mailloux is going to be our best all around defenseman and i don't want to lose him or stunt his development.

How does sending 21-year-old D to the AHL "stunt" his development? I got to tell you, from the neutral fan's perspective, you just sound like his fanboy and your ramblings don't make a whole lot of sense.

 

[HabsAddict]

How does sending 21-year-old D to the AHL "stunt" his development? I got to tell you, from the neutral fan's perspective, you just sound like his fanboy and your ramblings don't make a whole lot of sense.

It would be the first time that a young player doesn’t develop or develops slowly when their organization dicks around with them.

Or is it the second time?

Run along and worry about your team.....

 

[HabzSauce]

Perhaps but this also assumes alot of development and best case scenarios and there are 31 other teams in the league and a team like the Ducks , Jackets and Sabers have great groups as well.

Yup lol id say so far Hutson and Guhle are locks. Reinbacher and mailloux have high potential but still need to prove themselves

 

[Baksfamous112]

He still needs a little bit of seasoning in the AHL. He wasn’t bad at the camp but he still looked timid with and without the puck. I think another half a season in the AHL and a bit more confidence he can play with the big boys and he will make the jump.

Two things he needs to work on is his body position on D-zone coverage and his “mean” streak. He does have a physical game which he showed in the OHL and last year in Laval that we didn’t see during pre-season.

I’m looking forward to seeing him full time in the NHL soon. He’s going to be a solid top 4 D.

 

[SoundAndFury]

It would be the first time that a young player doesn’t develop or develops slowly when their organization dicks around with them.

Or is it the second time?

Run along and worry about your team.....

Nice deflection. You are still yet to provide any real arguments why being sent down in his situation is "dicking with him".

If you only want to talk to those who have their panties in a twist over nothing just as much as you are, maybe stick to the Montreal board instead of directing traffic on the general one.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Kind of funny how people interpreted his preseason when he was one of the best dmen in the league analytically during it

 

[SoundAndFury]

Kind of funny how people interpreted his preseason when he was one of the best dmen in the league analytically during it

And Jakub Skarek hasn't allowed a single preseason goal last year. He is a .892 Sv% career goalie in the AHL.

And Montreal scored 0 PP goals in the pre-season while they have one in every of their regular season games.

And Michkov and Honzek made their teams while leading preseason in scoring, now after 5 regular season games they have both combined for 1 assist.

Should I continue? What is the "not funny" way to interpret the preseason?

 

[Freaky Styley]

Hutson - Reinbacher
Guhle - Mailloux

Is going to end up one of the best top 4 in the nhl.
They are currently 22, 21, 20, and 19 years old, so they'll be together for a long time, which is scary for the rest of the league.

There's a decent chance that never even becomes a top 4 when considering the amount of seasons away and player turnover.

I think at this point Reinbacher doesn't become more than a 2nd pairing dman. The odds are against him now with another major injury missing significant development time at a critical age (see: Conor Timmins).

I think Mailloux will be a solid #3 but he could surprise and be that 'minute-muncher' for the Habs. I'm not convinced any of these guys will turn into a true #1, they have a lot of quantity but lack the high-end quality outside of Hutson. If he could use his skillset to become elite defensively, that would be huge for them. I still would take a few other future D cores over theirs.

 

[HabsAddict]

There's a decent chance that never even becomes a top 4 when considering the amount of seasons away and player turnover.

I think at this point Reinbacher doesn't become more than a 2nd pairing dman. The odds are against him now with another major injury missing significant development time at a critical age (see: Conor Timmins).

I think Mailloux will be a solid #3 but he could surprise and be that 'minute-muncher' for the Habs. I'm not convinced any of these guys will turn into a true #1, they have a lot of quantity but lack the high-end quality outside of Hutson. If he could use his skillset to become elite defensively, that would be huge for them. I still would take a few other future D cores over theirs.

I have a high interest in RHD because, well, like everyone, I dreamt about playing it. Closest i came when i played it in beer league.

I loved scouting them in Hamilton, and now, with a huge tv and 4k, I can see what their focusing and responding too.

What I saw from Mailloux is hesitation based on fear of making a mistake. In a game that is measured in instant, reflex response, that hesitation put him a step behind....which at the NHL, it costs.

He desperately needs/needed to play with a defensive defenseman like Guhle to lose that hesitation because his partner can help cover any mistakes. Plus learn from him.

My concern is that with Hutson and Matheson taking priority, the only defensesive partners left are his underdeveloped peers. I love X and Struble, but they aren't Guhle or Savard. That's why I made my previous comments about "stifling" his development.

The hope now is that he develops at a rapid enough pace on his own or an unfortunate injury to Hutson or Matheson. That's where Guhle becomes available for either side support.

Regardless, the "finishing" school is a few NHL seasons. That experience will slow down the game for him and reduce the decision error rates.

He has the huge size and tool belt for a top2 upside. He is not going to walk into that without development time. Unless Guhle shows huge improvement on his offensive side or Reinbacher has a secret, yet to be seen offense, Mailman has the highest combo of defense and offense. For me, the true definition of a "defenseman".

Let's see....

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I think at this point Reinbacher doesn't become more than a 2nd pairing dman. The odds are against him now with another major injury missing significant development time at a critical age (see: Conor Timmins).

Missing most of 1 season isn't going to reduce a player's potential. A ton of chl players who were drafted the last few years missed almost a full season of development because of covid. Guhle, played 5 games in a year when he was around the same age as Reinbacher, and he's looking pretty good right now.

 

[wetcoast]

Devils also have a ridiculously good potential d group, and roughly similar ages to the Montreal guys.

You're right and I thought about that immediately after posting.

 

[Scotianhab]

Defensemen usually take longer to reach their potential. Let Mailloux get a ton of ice time in Laval as It will only help him. No need to rush him up.

Yup lol id say so far Hutson and Guhle are locks. Reinbacher and mailloux have high potential but still need to prove themselves

A lot of ppl are sleeping on Engstrom too.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

And Jakub Skarek hasn't allowed a single preseason goal last year. He is a .892 Sv% career goalie in the AHL.

And Montreal scored 0 PP goals in the pre-season while they have one in every of their regular season games.

And Michkov and Honzek made their teams while leading preseason in scoring, now after 5 regular season games they have both combined for 1 assist.

Should I continue? What is the "not funny" way to interpret the preseason?

Man I didn't think that would strike such a nerve with you.

I meant it was funny that he was analytically very solid but visually looked a bit timid.

 

[HabzSauce]

Defensemen usually take longer to reach their potential. Let Mailloux get a ton of ice time in Laval as It will only help him. No need to rush him up.



A lot of ppl are sleeping on Engstrom too.

He's good too but I don't see where he fits long term. Unless he plays RD which I thought he had exp playing right side in SHL?

Guhle - RD
Hutson - RD
Struble/Xhekaj - RD

 

[jfhabs]

And Jakub Skarek hasn't allowed a single preseason goal last year. He is a .892 Sv% career goalie in the AHL.

And Montreal scored 0 PP goals in the pre-season while they have one in every of their regular season games.

And Michkov and Honzek made their teams while leading preseason in scoring, now after 5 regular season games they have both combined for 1 assist.

Should I continue? What is the "not funny" way to interpret the preseason?

They didn't really play Mailloux on the PP in pre season

 

[FerrisRox]

I think at this point Reinbacher doesn't become more than a 2nd pairing dman. The odds are against him now with another major injury missing significant development time at a critical age (see: Conor Timmins).

This is a hilarious take.

Are you serious with this? You think the "odds are" that Reinbacher doesn't become a top pairing defnesmean because of his injury?

Is this a serious take from you?

 

[montreal]

What part?

best top 4 in the NHL, how many teams can say they have the best top 4 in the NHL and just so happens they drafted all 4.

 

[Anardil]

Mailloux earned his place in Laval. What I didn't like about his preseason is that he struggled with the speed of the NHL.

He has the necessary physical skills to be an important piece of an NHL d-core, but he might have a 'Commodore-64' brain (I'm showing my age here.)

He needs more AHL seasoning.

I didn't see anything with him being jerked around by the organization, IMO.

 

[Freaky Styley]

This is a hilarious take.

Are you serious with this? You think the "odds are" that Reinbacher doesn't become a top pairing defnesmean because of his injury?

Is this a serious take from you?

Umm, yes?

Do you have examples where a highly touted player suffered long-term injuries during his D+1 & D+2 years and went on to still live up to his potential?

These are critical development years that dictate the trajectory of most players

 

[HabsAddict]

Umm, yes?

Do you have examples where a highly touted player suffered long-term injuries during his D+1 & D+2 years and went on to still live up to his potential?

These are critical development years that dictate the trajectory of most players

Juulsen...picked 26th and sure fire top 4. Injuries and lousy coaching turned him into a tweener.

Beaulieu...picked 17th and great skater, sure fire top 4. Lousy coaching and bad daddy influence turned him into a tweener.

Just two that were touted and seen just as promising as anyone on the Habs today not named Hutson or Reinbacher.

Coaching and injuries can derail if not destroy young careers.

 

[HuGort]

I have a high interest in RHD because, well, like everyone, I dreamt about playing it. Closest i came when i played it in beer league.

I loved scouting them in Hamilton, and now, with a huge tv and 4k, I can see what their focusing and responding too.

What I saw from Mailloux is hesitation based on fear of making a mistake. In a game that is measured in instant, reflex response, that hesitation put him a step behind....which at the NHL, it costs.

He desperately needs/needed to play with a defensive defenseman like Guhle to lose that hesitation because his partner can help cover any mistakes. Plus learn from him.

My concern is that with Hutson and Matheson taking priority, the only defensesive partners left are his underdeveloped peers. I love X and Struble, but they aren't Guhle or Savard. That's why I made my previous comments about "stifling" his development.

The hope now is that he develops at a rapid enough pace on his own or an unfortunate injury to Hutson or Matheson. That's where Guhle becomes available for either side support.

Regardless, the "finishing" school is a few NHL seasons. That experience will slow down the game for him and reduce the decision error rates.

He has the huge size and tool belt for a top2 upside. He is not going to walk into that without development time. Unless Guhle shows huge improvement on his offensive side or Reinbacher has a secret, yet to be seen offense, Mailman has the highest combo of defense and offense. For me, the true definition of a "defenseman".

Let's see....

Mailloux has missed a lot of development time. Needs longer than most

 

[OilersFanatics505]

This is a hilarious take.

Are you serious with this? You think the "odds are" that Reinbacher doesn't become a top pairing defnesmean because of his injury?

Is this a serious take from you?

I believe he becomes a Top Pairing D in Montreal. You can take that statement however you wish.

 

[jfhabs]

Umm, yes?

Do you have examples where a highly touted player suffered long-term injuries during his D+1 & D+2 years and went on to still live up to his potential?

These are critical development years that dictate the trajectory of most players

Oskar Klefbom comes to mind.
Erik Johnson?
Morgan Rielly was injured in his draft year.

 

[wetcoast]

Yup lol id say so far Hutson and Guhle are locks. Reinbacher and mailloux have high potential but still need to prove themselves

Sure Hutson and guhle are NHL locks but what are their ceiling, will either one ever be top 10 in Norris voting...Guhle probably not and Hutson perhaps but it's way too early to say these things.

As for Mailoux I'm still not sure on his long term NHL viability to be honest.

 

[HabzSauce]

Sure Hutson and guhle are NHL locks but what are their ceiling, will either one ever be top 10 in Norris voting...Guhle probably not and Hutson perhaps but it's way too early to say these things.

As for Mailoux I'm still not sure on his long term NHL viability to be honest.

Hutson has very high ceiling and Guhle is a tank. Not worried about either of them

Mailloux we will see but I think it's all mental with him. Needs more development especially in the D zone. We forget sometimes he missed a lot of time. But his toolbox is incredible. I love his game. Would be great to slot him in top 4 and let Reinbacher take top pairing. Assuming they both hit their potential.