Mathieukferland
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Up to 18 pts in 16 games; to put into context that production, McKenna had the exact same amount in his 16 games in his 15 year old season…… as a forward
As in Canada?This kid has a chance to be a generational talent. We haven’t had one at D in forever.
Cale Makar is not a generational talent. He's an elite franchise defenseman.As in Canada?
Does Cale Makar not exist?
So does Dupont...Cale Makar is not a generational talent. He's an elite franchise defenseman.
He has a hell of a lot of work to do to be considered a generational talent.
I think he’s talking about pre-draft. DuPont was miles ahead of Makar pre-draft. DuPont is easily the best defenseman pre draft since Dahlin (2018), and he’s likely also better than him by a not so small gap. I don’t think at this point you’d take any player from the 9 years pre 2027 over DuPont, so I think quite literally he looks generational as of now.So does Dupont...
Cale is 26 and has already won the Calder, a Norris, a Conn Smythe, and a Cup, and he's perennially in the top 3 for the Norris. Dupont is super exciting but he's 15 years old... Cale absolutely is closer to being the defensemen that defines the 2010 drafted D's and the NHL's style. If he's not yet generational, I'd say he's on that track.
A generational talent has a bit of a higher bar.So does Dupont...
Cale is 26 and has already won the Calder, a Norris, a Conn Smythe, and a Cup, and he's perennially in the top 3 for the Norris. Dupont is super exciting but he's 15 years old... Cale absolutely is closer to being the defensemen that defines the 2010 drafted D's and the NHL's style. If he's not yet generational, I'd say he's on that track.
Karl never sniffed a Conn Smythe. I agree he hasn't done it yet but then why are we talking about it for Dupont?A generational talent has a bit of a higher bar.
Like, top 30 player all time bar. Let's see how his career pans out. Right now he is slightly behind erik Karlsson at the same age.
Erik at age 26 had 2 Norris trophies, 2 runner up Norris, and 4 top 10 hart finishes in a lower scoring era.
Sure, hard to dispute pre-draft. This is why I don't like the generational debate anyway, but I know it's not going to end.I think he’s talking about pre-draft. DuPont was miles ahead of Makar pre-draft. DuPont is easily the best defenseman pre draft since Dahlin (2018), and he’s likely also better than him by a not so small gap. I don’t think at this point you’d take any player from the 9 years pre 2027 over DuPont, so I think quite literally he looks generational as of now.
I feel like his 2017 playoffs was absolutely on track to be Conn Smythe worthy had the Sens converted in the ECF Game 7 OT instead of PIT. EK was on another level - 18 points in 19 games. 3 ahead of next closest and 8 ahead of the next players on his team. Craig Anderson was the only other remotely important Senator in that runKarl never sniffed a Conn Smythe. I agree he hasn't done it yet but then why are we talking about it for Dupont?
I feel like his 2017 playoffs was absolutely on track to be Conn Smythe worthy had the Sens converted in the ECF Game 7 OT instead of PIT. EK was on another level - 18 points in 19 games. 3 ahead of next closest and 8 ahead of the next players on his team. Craig Anderson was the only other remotely important Senator in that run
They would have been very worthy of defeating the Preds that year
Not to derail the thread