RD Landon Dupont - Everett Silvertips, WHL (2027 Draft)

[Mathieukferland]

Up to 18 pts in 16 games; to put into context that production, McKenna had the exact same amount in his 16 games in his 15 year old season…… as a forward

 

[dahrougem2]

This kid has a chance to be a generational talent. We haven’t had one at D in forever.

As in Canada?

Does Cale Makar not exist?

 

[landy92mack29]

Makar has no idea how to play defense, Dupont does.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

DuPont is much better defensively than some have advertised.

 

[67 others]

As in Canada?

Does Cale Makar not exist?

Cale Makar is not a generational talent. He's an elite franchise defenseman.

He has a hell of a lot of work to do to be considered a generational talent.

 

[coooldude]

Cale Makar is not a generational talent. He's an elite franchise defenseman.

He has a hell of a lot of work to do to be considered a generational talent.

So does Dupont...

Cale is 26 and has already won the Calder, a Norris, a Conn Smythe, and a Cup, and he's perennially in the top 3 for the Norris. Dupont is super exciting but he's 15 years old... Cale absolutely is closer to being the defensemen that defines the 2010 drafted D's and the NHL's style. If he's not yet generational, I'd say he's on that track.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

So does Dupont...

Cale is 26 and has already won the Calder, a Norris, a Conn Smythe, and a Cup, and he's perennially in the top 3 for the Norris. Dupont is super exciting but he's 15 years old... Cale absolutely is closer to being the defensemen that defines the 2010 drafted D's and the NHL's style. If he's not yet generational, I'd say he's on that track.

I think he’s talking about pre-draft. DuPont was miles ahead of Makar pre-draft. DuPont is easily the best defenseman pre draft since Dahlin (2018), and he’s likely also better than him by a not so small gap. I don’t think at this point you’d take any player from the 9 years pre 2027 over DuPont, so I think quite literally he looks generational as of now.

 

[67 others]

So does Dupont...

Cale is 26 and has already won the Calder, a Norris, a Conn Smythe, and a Cup, and he's perennially in the top 3 for the Norris. Dupont is super exciting but he's 15 years old... Cale absolutely is closer to being the defensemen that defines the 2010 drafted D's and the NHL's style. If he's not yet generational, I'd say he's on that track.

A generational talent has a bit of a higher bar.

Like, top 30 player all time bar. Let's see how his career pans out. Right now he is slightly behind erik Karlsson at the same age.

Erik at age 26 had 2 Norris trophies, 2 runner up Norris, and 4 top 10 hart finishes in a lower scoring era.

 

[coooldude]

A generational talent has a bit of a higher bar.

Like, top 30 player all time bar. Let's see how his career pans out. Right now he is slightly behind erik Karlsson at the same age.

Erik at age 26 had 2 Norris trophies, 2 runner up Norris, and 4 top 10 hart finishes in a lower scoring era.

Karl never sniffed a Conn Smythe. I agree he hasn't done it yet but then why are we talking about it for Dupont?

I think he’s talking about pre-draft. DuPont was miles ahead of Makar pre-draft. DuPont is easily the best defenseman pre draft since Dahlin (2018), and he’s likely also better than him by a not so small gap. I don’t think at this point you’d take any player from the 9 years pre 2027 over DuPont, so I think quite literally he looks generational as of now.

Sure, hard to dispute pre-draft. This is why I don't like the generational debate anyway, but I know it's not going to end.

 

[Our Lady Peace]

Karl never sniffed a Conn Smythe. I agree he hasn't done it yet but then why are we talking about it for Dupont?

I feel like his 2017 playoffs was absolutely on track to be Conn Smythe worthy had the Sens converted in the ECF Game 7 OT instead of PIT. EK was on another level - 18 points in 19 games. 3 ahead of next closest and 8 ahead of the next players on his team. Craig Anderson was the only other remotely important Senator in that run

They would have been very worthy of defeating the Preds that year

Not to derail the thread

 

[oooooooooohCanada]

I feel like his 2017 playoffs was absolutely on track to be Conn Smythe worthy had the Sens converted in the ECF Game 7 OT instead of PIT. EK was on another level - 18 points in 19 games. 3 ahead of next closest and 8 ahead of the next players on his team. Craig Anderson was the only other remotely important Senator in that run

They would have been very worthy of defeating the Preds that year

Not to derail the thread

yeah EK would have won the Conn smythe even if they lost in the finals. He was carrying that hard (with a busted ankle)

 

[Bubbles]

DuPont is much better defensively than some have advertised.

Let's not go overboard. He's functionally ok. He plays with Jamieson which masks a lot of mistakes.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Let's not go overboard. He's functionally ok. He plays with Jamieson which masks a lot of mistakes.

But also keep in mind that he's 15 years old. To be okay defensively at that age in junior is very difficult. Even someone like Keaton Verhoeff (who is more of a traditional defensive zone guy) would've looked a lot worse at 15 than he does at 16. You have to grade it on a curve.

 

[Bubbles]

But also keep in mind that he's 15 years old. To be okay defensively at that age in junior is very difficult. Even someone like Keaton Verhoeff (who is more of a traditional defensive zone guy) would've looked a lot worse at 15 than he does at 16. You have to grade it on a curve.

I know, but the point is he's just ok defensively. It's the least developed part of his game.

I also mentioned he's only 15 so there's a lot of runway here.

 

[67 others]

Karl never sniffed a Conn Smythe. I agree he hasn't done it yet but then why are we talking about it for Dupont?


Sure, hard to dispute pre-draft. This is why I don't like the generational debate anyway, but I know it's not going to end.

Makar's Conn Smythe is on the back of Mackinnon. Karlsson's carrying of that shit Sens team with mike Hoffman and Bobby Ryan as their best forwards to game 7 of the Conference finals speaks volumes,

Makar had a much better Mackinnon, Rantanen leading the charge, so let's not pretend the Conn Smythe is some end all discussion trophy. Hart Trophy votes matter more.

And why are we talking about it ? ask the guy who claimed Makar was a generational talent(he isn't) when Dupont was brought up as the first potential generational Dman since Lidstrom lol

Makar isn't a generational talent. Dupont has the potential to be

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Now the clock has begun to see if Dupont seriously considers going to the NCAA in a couple years.

Been a really good 15 year old season for him in the Dub.

 

[jtechkid]

Now the clock has begun to see if Dupont seriously considers going to the NCAA in a couple years.

Been a really good 15 year old season for him in the Dub.

he cant officially verbal commit to august 1 going into his junior of high school - im not sure what grade he is in but if he visited denver( start taking schools jan 1) hes in sophmore year so he can commit august 1. So for Canada thats the official dates . you will lot of these kids speed up school to get college 1 year earlier too.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I know, but the point is he's just ok defensively. It's the least developed part of his game.

I also mentioned he's only 15 so there's a lot of runway here.

"As advertised" was some said he was an offensive phenom who absolutely sucked defensively. Not hard to be impressed by his defence when the only things you heard were bad. In that case ok looks pretty good.

he cant officially verbal commit to august 1 going into his junior of high school - im not sure what grade he is in but if he visited denver( start taking schools jan 1) hes in sophmore year so he can commit august 1. So for Canada thats the official dates . you will lot of these kids speed up school to get college 1 year earlier too.

He's going to be playing his first year of college in the nhl.

 

[Corso]

"As advertised" was some said he was an offensive phenom who absolutely sucked defensively. Not hard to be impressed by his defence when the only things you heard were bad. In that case ok looks pretty good.


He's going to be playing his first year of college in the nhl.

Pretty well much, unless he accelerates his schooling.

 

[Bonin21]

he cant officially verbal commit to august 1 going into his junior of high school - im not sure what grade he is in but if he visited denver( start taking schools jan 1) hes in sophmore year so he can commit august 1. So for Canada thats the official dates . you will lot of these kids speed up school to get college 1 year earlier too.

But if the rumor is he visited DU now (before Jan 1), he visited illegally. So the rumor is surely trash.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Cale Makar is not a generational talent. He's an elite franchise defenseman.

He has a hell of a lot of work to do to be considered a generational talent.

Title or not, there isn’t team in the league where Makar wouldn’t immediately be their #1 defenceman.

 

[landy92mack29]

But if the rumor is he visited DU now (before Jan 1), he visited illegally. So the rumor is surely trash.

It is plus a player can't leave the team without approval

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Title or not, there isn’t team in the league where Makar wouldn’t immediately be their #1 defenceman.

I mean he didn't win the Norris last year, but how about we don't turn the Dupont thread into a pissing match between Avs and Nucks fans?

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I mean he didn't win the Norris last year, but how about we don't turn the Dupont thread into a pissing match between Avs and Nucks fans?

I’m neither. But point taken.

 

[IHaveNoCreativity]

Could he theoretically play for Germany ?