RD David Jiricek (2022, 6th, CBJ)

[TheDoldrums]

I think he gets into game 3 (for him). He was driving the Leafs a bit crazy all night.

Well he did take an obvious embellishment penalty after he let tiny Nick Robertson drag him down very easily lol. Not sure that’s the kind of driving crazy you want tho

That hit above on Holmberg was clean tho, annoying Reaves felt the need to intervene.

 

[FlyguyOX]

A glimpse of what he'll bring more of as he continues to fill out

Hit couldn't have been cleaner.

 

[Czechboy]

Well he did take an obvious embellishment penalty after he let tiny Nick Robertson drag him down very easily lol. Not sure that’s the kind of driving crazy you want tho

That hit above on Holmberg was clean tho, annoying Reaves felt the need to intervene.

I'd say a rookie drawing a penatly is a good thing!

 

[TheDoldrums]

I'd say a rookie drawing a penatly is a good thing!

The embellishment penalty he took cancelled out the penalty he drew, unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying

 

[Czechboy]

The embellishment penalty he took cancelled out the penalty he drew, unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying

No, I misunderstood.. didn't know he got the embellishment plenalty on the play. My bad.

 

[majormajor]

Well he did take an obvious embellishment penalty after he let tiny Nick Robertson drag him down very easily lol. Not sure that’s the kind of driving crazy you want tho

That hit above on Holmberg was clean tho, annoying Reaves felt the need to intervene.

Jiricek went down under pressure twice, the second time the officials wised up and let it go. They'll learn that he just has a hard time staying on his feet. We are in the bambi stage.

I have seen Jiricek go down so often that I don't even think that's a dive, he knows he's going down and is just trying to take someone with him.

 

[CBJx614]

The embellishment penalty he took cancelled out the penalty he drew, unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re saying

If anything it was a holding, that was not embellishment

 

[StreetHawk]

Well.. he did enough to get game 2. That's all I can ask. Do I think 3rd pair with Jack Johnson is good for him? Not really but it's another chance and they don't have a 7th guy so he should hit around 12 to 13 minutes. Johnson is a steady vet and he should have favorable matchups so maybe it is a golden opportunity to outscore or outperform his deployment (which I felt he did last time).

The saga continues... in the NHL... I'll take it

The opportunity presents itself now with the Gudbranson shoulder injury. Jiricek is the only RHD after Severson for the Jackets. Has to make the most of it.

I do have the same reservations with sticking him with the corpse of Johnson, but if they don't view Jiricek capable of playing the minutes and situations beside Provorov, then the other options as a LHD partner are Harris and Christianson who had going into the year like 140 and 44 NHL games under their belts.

 

[Czechboy]

The opportunity presents itself now with the Gudbranson shoulder injury. Jiricek is the only RHD after Severson for the Jackets. Has to make the most of it.

I do have the same reservations with sticking him with the corpse of Johnson, but if they don't view Jiricek capable of playing the minutes and situations beside Provorov, then the other options as a LHD partner are Harris and Christianson who had going into the year like 140 and 44 NHL games under their belts.

Sucks about the Gudbranson injury.

I think third pair with Johnson may be good for now. Cagey veteran might cover for him a little as he pushes for offence. Feel like he's months away from Top 4 with Provorov right now but do think/hope he gets there.

 

[Jovavic]

We are in the bambi stage.

Hopefully he leaves it, Klesla never did

 

[majormajor]

The opportunity presents itself now with the Gudbranson shoulder injury. Jiricek is the only RHD after Severson for the Jackets. Has to make the most of it.

I do have the same reservations with sticking him with the corpse of Johnson, but if they don't view Jiricek capable of playing the minutes and situations beside Provorov, then the other options as a LHD partner are Harris and Christianson who had going into the year like 140 and 44 NHL games under their belts.

Harris is limited with the puck, but he's at least a responsible defender and he's fast. I think he's the ideal guy to pair with Jiricek actually. JJ can't cover others that well. But I suspect JJ is teaching Jiricek a lot on the bench.

Hopefully he can also show Jiricek a few things in the weight room. That might have to wait until the offseason unfortunately - one of the big things I preferred about the AHL schedule is that David can build muscle during the season.

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Jiricek went down under pressure twice, the second time the officials wised up and let it go. They'll learn that he just has a hard time staying on his feet. We are in the bambi stage.

I have seen Jiricek go down so often that I don't even think that's a dive, he knows he's going down and is just trying to take someone with him.

Never heard this one yet, but its so true lol!

 

[martygod12]

So CBJ would really rather bring in and play Dante Fabbro then giving Jiricek a chance ?? I give up here lol

 

[Boxscore]

So CBJ would really rather bring in and play Dante Fabbro then giving Jiricek a chance ?? I give up here lol

Jackets are going to end up trading this kid for nothing by next year.

 

[Czechboy]

Alright Jacket's fans.. type slow and explain it to me...

It is November 15th. David Jiricek is healthy and has played 5 games for roughly 60 minutes of TOI. How is this helping him develop into an NHL dman?

For a comparison.. The struggling Nemec has played 12 games between AHL and NHL. And his NHL averages are around 16 minutes a night and, I assume, his AHL totals are over 20.

How is this helping Jiricek improve? 5 games since the season began on October 8th is a game every week.

For comparison.. I play 2x a week in a shitty beer league and that is roughly 25 minutes a night. I'm currently playing more than Jiricek.lol

 

[Boxscore]

Alright Jacket's fans.. type slow and explain it to me...

It is November 15th. David Jiricek is healthy and has played 5 games for roughly 60 minutes of TOI. How is this helping him develop into an NHL dman?

For a comparison.. The struggling Nemec has played 12 games between AHL and NHL. And his NHL averages are around 16 minutes a night and, I assume, his AHL totals are over 20.

How is this helping Jiricek improve? 5 games since the season began on October 8th is a game every week.

For comparison.. I play 2x a week in a shitty beer league and that is roughly 25 minutes a night. I'm currently playing more than Jiricek.lol

The way the Jackets have been handling him is beyond bizarre... and at this point it's practically absurd imho. It's almost as if both parties are playing a crazy game of chicken...

Jackets...

We're not making it easy on you so we'll continue to sign fringe AHLers and bottom 6 cast-offs to fill bodies on our blueline. We'll spot you here and there... but unless you're Rob Blake immediately... we'll sit you or send you down.

Jiricek...

My mind has been set on playing in the NHL and your games of yo-yoing me are tiresome. I'm over it. Either give me a full-time spot on the big club or move me.

This needs to end soon or it won't end well.

 

[Juxtaposer]

The way the Jackets have been handling him is beyond bizarre... and at this point it's practically absurd imho. It's almost as if both parties are playing a crazy game of chicken...

Jackets...

We're not making it easy on you so we'll continue to sign fringe AHLers and bottom 6 cast-offs to fill bodies on our blueline. We'll spot you here and there... but unless you're Rob Blake immediately... we'll sit you or send you down.

Jiricek...

My mind has been set on playing in the NHL and your games of yo-yoing me are tiresome. I'm over it. Either give me a full-time spot on the big club or move me.

This needs to end soon or it won't end well.

The way the Jackets' coaching staff keeps saying "earn your way into the lineup" and Jiricek keeps not getting in the lineup means theres some sort of serious disconnect between the two parties. Either Jiricek isn't getting clear instruction on what he needs to be doing to get back into games or he's just not doing it. They need to reconcile whatever the issue is before this becomes another problematic developmental season lost.

 

[Boxscore]

The way the Jackets' coaching staff keeps saying "earn your way into the lineup" and Jiricek keeps not getting in the lineup means theres some sort of serious disconnect between the two parties. Either Jiricek isn't getting clear instruction on what he needs to be doing to get back into games or he's just not doing it. They need to reconcile whatever the issue is before this becomes another problematic developmental season lost.

Yup. I can't imagine what "earn your way into the lineup" details though since they give him a rare game here and there and low minutes to prove to them whatever they expect to see. Give the damn kid a 20-game stretch with solid minutes then evaluate his full body of work. Quit yanking him because he makes an uncomfortable play or two during his limited 9 minutes.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Yup. I can't imagine what "earn your way into the lineup" details though since they give him a rare game here and there and low minutes to prove to them whatever they expect to see. Give the damn kid a 20-game stretch with solid minutes then evaluate his full body of work. Quit yanking him because he makes an uncomfortable play or two during his limited 9 minutes.

Well, it's usually related to conduct in practice. Jiricek should be working his ass off in practice, staying on for extra time when possible, executing drills exactly as his coach wants, that sort of thing.

 

[Boxscore]

Well, it's usually related to conduct in practice. Jiricek should be working his ass off in practice, staying on for extra time when possible, executing drills exactly as his coach wants, that sort of thing.

Interesting. Well, I've never watched him practice. But I wonder if it's a compete or dedication issue... or problems with follow-through and execution? Some players just can't practice well. Guy Lafleur was one of them and notorious for looking lost during practice, botching drills, and getting frustrated. For some players, hockey is more about instincts and play... less about drill articulation and running through reps.

Something is off though with this situation and we've been talking about it for well over a year now.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Interesting. Well, I've never watched him practice. But I wonder if it's a compete or dedication issue... or problems with follow-through and execution? Some players just can't practice well. Guy Lafleur was one of them and notorious for looking lost during practice, botching drills, and getting frustrated. For some players, hockey is more about instincts and play... less about drill articulation and running through reps.

Something is off though with this situation and we've been talking about it for well over a year now.

Totally speculation on my part if that is specifically what's going on with the Jackets and Jiricek, but when practice is all you have to show you belong in the lineup, you better ace it or don't complain. I think part of the traditional "tie goes to the vet" is that vets know how to conduct themselves in practice and have the right attitude to support the team. A young player might be more inclined to pout and make things worse by not having a team-first attitude, which is normal for a kid who doesn't yet realize that it's not all about him.

 

[stevo61]

Columbus fans keep saying but people don't appear to listen, the biggest growth needed for Jiricek is in the gym. We have no idea what conversations behind the scenes have been but what we do know is getting in games is going to do very little to increase his biggest deficiency. He appears to have a solid upper body but everything below the chest is incredibly underdeveloped. Pair that with skating issues and it's not a good combo. I for one have faith in the player and the upside but it's not there right now, people are just being incredibly lazy from the outside with their views and want to blame the organization he plays for

 

[Juxtaposer]

Columbus fans keep saying but people don't appear to listen, the biggest growth needed for Jiricek is in the gym. We have no idea what conversations behind the scenes have been but what we do know is getting in games is going to do very little to increase his biggest deficiency. He appears to have a solid upper body but everything below the chest is incredibly underdeveloped. Pair that with skating issues and it's not a good combo. I for one have faith in the player and the upside but it's not there right now, people are just being incredibly lazy from the outside with their views and want to blame the organization he plays for

Didn't Jackets fans also say there was absolutely no issue with Laine?

If you want Jiricek in the gym, then give him ~60% of games, give him meaningful minutes when he's playing where he's allowed to make mistakes, then stick him in the gym when he's not, and share that that's the plan. Not 30% of games with 12 minutes per game, then make back handed comments to the media that he needs to earn his way back into games.

 

[stevo61]

Didn't Jackets fans also say there was absolutely no issue with Laine?

If you want Jiricek in the gym, then give him ~60% of games, give him meaningful minutes when he's playing where he's allowed to make mistakes, then stick him in the gym when he's not, and share that that's the plan. Not 30% of games with 12 minutes per game, then make back handed comments to the media that he needs to earn his way back into games.

What are you talking about? Guess you didn't frequent the CBJ board ever. There were mostly his Finnish diehards that had saw no issues, some of us that wanted him to succeed but got tired of it all eventually and a large group who just didn't like the entire situation period.

Obviously there is a plan shared with the player and agent because if there wasn't we wouldn't hear the end of Walsh's complaints. Evason amd Waddell are trying to change a shitty culture the Jarmo regime ended up creating, Jiricek is in the middle of it. Fact of the matter is he isn't NHL ready now, its not even debatable. If his camp is pushing for NHL or bust... well they are getting their way

 

[Juxtaposer]

What are you talking about? Guess you didn't frequent the CBJ board ever. There were mostly his Finnish diehards that had saw no issues, some of us that wanted him to succeed but got tired of it all eventually and a large group who just didn't like the entire situation period.

Obviously there is a plan shared with the player and agent because if there wasn't we wouldn't hear the end of Walsh's complaints. Evason amd Waddell are trying to change a shitty culture the Jarmo regime ended up creating, Jiricek is in the middle of it. Fact of the matter is he isn't NHL ready now, its not even debatable. If his camp is pushing for NHL or bust... well they are getting their way

Why would I frequent the CBJ board? I'm not a Jackets fan. I guess I should say "on the main boards, Jackets fans insisted that Laine was fine."

The point is that lots of teenagers need to put on weight and get stronger, Jiricek isn't special. If the only reason he's struggling at the NHL level is that he isn't physically strong enough yet, you simply let him play through it. You can put him on a development plan that includes load management like Leo Carlsson last year and Will Smith this year so they can get the time they need in the gym. But you don't make a comment like this if the healthy scratches are planned and not related to performance:

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