Rumor: Rantanen Extension is Close???

[Pokecheque]

I hate the salary cap.

Also, Milan Hejduk got screwed. He never made more than 4M in a season.

Now that I think about it, this is probably what's been driving my disdain for how much Mikko is going to get. Mikko's a much better player than Hejduk, but 10M/season better?

You should love the salary cap. It's why the Avs got Devon Toews, and probably also why they were able to get MacKinnon and Kadri to play for dirt cheap.

I wish it were more a soft cap system like the NBA where you always have room to sign your own players, but alas, I think the Avs have been fairly smart when it comes to cap management, but then again I think they've had to be because ownership isn't nearly as willing to bail them out of their mistakes like, say, Vegas.

 

[Balthazar]

Again, don't think he ever would've been given the green light for that.

A green light from whom? Sakic? Kroenke?

As far as we know CMAc is the GM and doesn't need a green light to make hockey moves.

 

[Ceremony]

Guys, I’m starting to think OP may have been misinformed

OP was talking relatively. Relative to the eventual heat death of the universe, a Rantanen extension is imminent.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

OP was talking relatively. Relative to the eventual heat death of the universe, a Rantanen extension is imminent.

Thank goodness, I think it would be a bad decision for them to extend Rants right before the inevitable heat death of the universe.

 

[sethro109]

You should love the salary cap. It's why the Avs got Devon Toews, and probably also why they were able to get MacKinnon and Kadri to play for dirt cheap.

I wish it were more a soft cap system like the NBA where you always have room to sign your own players, but alas, I think the Avs have been fairly smart when it comes to cap management, but then again I think they've had to be because ownership isn't nearly as willing to bail them out of their mistakes like, say, Vegas.

We lost Rob Blake, Adam Foote, Alex Tanguay and Peter Forsberg because of the salary cap. F*** the salary cap.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

The Avs were traditionally a top 5 spending club before the cap was introduced.

f*** the salary cap.

f*** poor teams.

f*** parity.

 

[katfude]

I like salary caps as a concept. Look at the MLB right now.

But god damn, why is it every time they implement them or make them stricter, they absolutely hose great Colorado teams?

 

[Foppa2118]

 

[UnkleKraker]

Face it fellas, Rants is going to get the "own rental" treatment.

 

[Vaslof]

The Avs were traditionally a top 5 spending club before the cap was introduced.

f*** the salary cap.

f*** poor teams.

f*** parity.

Eat the poor!

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

The Avs were traditionally a top 5 spending club before the cap was introduced.

f*** the salary cap.

f*** poor teams.

f*** parity.

The Avs bled a lot of solid depth over the years to NYR and other higher spending teams.

The Avs were more middle of the road until the top guys started making like 10 millions a year.

 

[Pokecheque]

A green light from whom? Sakic? Kroenke?

As far as we know CMAc is the GM and doesn't need a green light to make hockey moves.

Heheheheh that’s funny you believe that.

 

[Ceremony]

Why don't we, as a team owned by one of the richest men on the planet, simply eat the poorer teams such as "Columbus" and "Winnipeg"?

 

[Richard Doll]

Can’t get this done until after all the numbers come in from the holiday shopping season.

 

[Metallo]

Can’t get this done until after all the numbers come in from the holiday shopping season.

Exactly, I for one, cannot afford Mikko's extension right now.

 

[Drury_Sakic]

Not that I think the Avs are going to trade him, but I don’t get where the “they should have traded him and won’t get nothing now” crowd is coming from.

They will get a kings ransom if they fall out of the race and want to trade him, either as a rental to someone or to a rebuilding team looking for a longer term add.

We lost Rob Blake, Adam Foote, Alex Tanguay and Peter Forsberg because of the salary cap. F*** the salary cap.

Avs lost some of those players due to asset mismanagement and not understanding the cap. The guaranteed money to Blake and Sakic and the cap penalty for it hurt and lost them either Forsberg or Foote depending on the choice they would have made, just as one example.

 

[dahrougem2]

Not that I think the Avs are going to trade him, but I don’t get where the “they should have traded him and won’t get nothing now” crowd is coming from.

They will get a kings ransom if they fall out of the race and want to trade him, either as a rental to someone or to a rebuilding team looking for a longer term add.

You realize the likelihood of the Avs falling out of the race is practically zero?

They held down a wildcard spot missing 6 regular NHL forwards and having the worst goaltending in the league.

They aren't going to fall out of the race.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

You realize the likelihood of the Avs falling out of the race is practically zero?

They held down a wildcard spot missing 6 regular NHL forwards and having the worst goaltending in the league.

They aren't going to fall out of the race.

There’s a good chance the hockey gods have heard this and will react with a “challenge accepted”. By April we will have a roster with Kovalenko and Ivan as the premiere pieces

 

[The Abusement Park]

Not that I think the Avs are going to trade him, but I don’t get where the “they should have traded him and won’t get nothing now” crowd is coming from.

They will get a kings ransom if they fall out of the race and want to trade him, either as a rental to someone or to a rebuilding team looking for a longer term add.

Think the Meier deal. Add some picks and prospects and you have a Rantanen deal in January. But that type of deal does nothing for where this team is at right now.

 

[Drury_Sakic]

Think the Meier deal. Add some picks and prospects and you have a Rantanen deal in January. But that type of deal does nothing for where this team is at right now.

Mikko is a better player than Meier, and is healthy. Big difference. And I don’t expect that type of deal to be one to make them better in the now, but one that adds a huge influx of depth and prospect/picks.

Mikko is also on an expiring contract, which a contender would value vs a longer term commitment.

You make the trade with the idea of in 1-3 years having some of those players hit and the second window opening and/or using the assets in the summer to reload for next year.

But to be clear, I don’t think they get there. Just if they continue to be injury riddled and are not looking healthy leading into the deadline.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Mikko is a better player than Meier, and is healthy. Big difference. And I don’t expect that type of deal to be one to make them better in the now, but one that adds a huge influx of depth and prospect/picks.

Mikko is also on an expiring contract, which a contender would value vs a longer term commitment.

You make the trade with the idea of in 1-3 years having some of those players hit and the second window opening and/or using the assets in the summer to reload for next year.

But to be clear, I don’t think they get there. Just if they continue to be injury riddled and are not looking healthy leading into the deadline.

Hence why you add picks and prospects to the Meier deal. We aren't getting a win now piece for Mikko in trade. That ship has long gone. Moving Mikko now gets you picks and prospects mainly which would be horrible for the contention window that this team is currently in.

 

[Metallo]

Mikko and George both 50% retained for Shesterkin. Boom!

 

[cinchronicity]

Not that I think the Avs are going to trade him, but I don’t get where the “they should have traded him and won’t get nothing now” crowd is coming from.

As the self-elected President of that club, I am compelled to respond.

Nobody is handing over a boatload for half a season of Mikko. High quality teams are in the same boat as the Avs, in terms of cap space. They won't have the room without trading multiple pieces out. Bad teams with cap room will get snared in Mikko's M-NTC net. So the target trade market is rebuilding teams who likely do not want to empty the cabinet for 30 games of a player likely to demand $14M

I suspect the only deal available at this TDL is a 1st Rd plus a prospect. Neither help the Avs this year, and the loss of Mikko does hurt in the playoffs. If you are considering a trade after the playoffs, you are talking about a late rounder, since the team would be trading for less than 2 weeks of exclusive negotiation rights. And you can bet your ass that Mikko is going to demand a full NMC on this contract.

I do not WANT to see Mikko in another uniform. But my priorities are getting a legit 1G, and paying Makar, Lehky and Drouin what they are worth. So I am left with IF the cap does increase more than expected this Summer, and IF Landy goes LTIR, then Mikko in the $11.0M to $11.5M x 8 is reasonable. But at this precise moment, neither of those are locked in.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Think the Meier deal. Add some picks and prospects and you have a Rantanen deal in January. But that type of deal does nothing for where this team is at right now.

There is a slight difference between the caliber of player here.

Meier is not in any way, shape or form comparable to the Moose. Night and day difference, really.

 

[MaKarter]

I'm sure we will get to Rantanen once we can get Georgiev's 8 year deal locked in.