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McRanger said:
Count me as someone who saw that as addition by subtraction.

Rosie was a trooper and filled in as our "top defenseman" to the best of his abilities for a while, but I was glad to see him go. His "puck-possession-no-matter-what-reverse-reverse-chase-pass-reverse..." mentality bled into the rest of the D and got them pinned into their zone time after time.

Our defensemen's bad habits pretty much disappeared after he left.
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I agree that he was put into a spot he wasn't suited for.

But Rosy gave us a defacto #1 at a reasonable price during his prime years. He's not the worst Sather has done, in retrospect people will realize his entrance and subsequent departure were positives not negatives.
 
Crease said:
Here is a fun challenge for anyone interested. What is the longest running trade in NYR history? For example, Ryan Wilson and Paul Stastny are the players currently on the Avalanche who can be traced back to the Nordiques/Flyers Lindros deal.
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25 years:

Tony Amonte (draft 1988)
Amonte traded for Matteau (and others)
Mattueau traded for Ian Laperierre
Laperierre traded for Marty McSorley (and others)
McSorley traded for Jay More
More traded for Harry York (and others)
York traded for Petr Nedved (and others)
Nedved traded for 2004 2nd rounder (Dane Byers) and others
Byers traded for Chad Kolraik
Kolarik traded for Benn Ferreiro

That brings us up to date.. 10 degarees of seperation...What do Tony Am,onet and Benn Ferrerio have in common?
 
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Bluenote13 said:
I agree that he was put into a spot he wasn't suited for.

But Rosy gave us a defacto #1 at a reasonable price during his prime years. He's not the worst Sather has done, in retrospect people will realize his entrance and subsequent departure were positives not negatives.
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Agreed.

He performed admirably all considering. And that OT goal that I saw live against Buffalo in '07 has earned him a permanent place in my heart.

But that soccer puck possession mentality where he refused to just clear the zone even under serious duress drove me nuts. And as his game deteriorated and younger players started emulating him, it became even more of a concern.
 
McRanger said:
Agreed.

He performed admirably all considering. And that OT goal that I saw live against Buffalo in '07 has earned him a permanent place in my heart.

But that soccer puck possession mentality where he refused to just clear the zone even under serious duress drove me nuts. And as his game deteriorated and younger players started emulating him, it became even more of a concern.
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Same happened with James Patrick, and at the same age.
 
Bluenote13 said:
Kocur easily had some of the best fights I've ever seen, especially on those Detroit teams that had Kocur, Probert, Mckay and a young Adam Graves. Then later on when Detroit had Grimson, Primeau and Mccarty. The best home games back then outside the local rivals were those Detroit games, always some of the most anticipated games of the season. Domi vs Probert, all time classics.



Amonte and Weight were great right away, especially Amonte. Weight could hit and take draws like a pro right off the bat. Amonte took RW next to Mess and never missed a beat. I still think we could have kept one of them, I would have preferred Weight.
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Agree on Weight and I saw him in Binghamton too. Great passer. Kind of a faster, stockier version of Stepan. Not one of our better deals here though Tikkanen had a lot of good moments for us and it's debatable whether we would have won the Cup or even some other playoff series afterwards without him. Tikkanen was really good in the playoffs. I just wonder more what Weight would have been like for us than Amonte--just a better hockey player overall.
 
Anyway on Amonte--Matteau and Noonan were very good 3rd line players capable of being top 6 players in a pinch. They both were versatile--could play in all situations and really good battling for pucks. Think of what Fedetenko gave us for a couple years--multiply by two and add an x factor because both Matteau and Noonan were better than Fedetenko. Nothing spectacular about either one--but that was a good deal IMO--and I still think the 1994 SC winning goal was Noonan's not Messier's and that being the case it was a ****ing good thing we traded for Noonan because just maybe it wouldn't have been scored otherwise. Look as well at what Boston is doing right now--it's partly because their 3rd and 4th line guys are all solid, gritty and good players and there is no letup in momentum when they're on the ice.
 
jaywills1020 said:
December 31 1987. If we knew then what we know now. Buffalo drafts Mogilny with the 5th round pick. On a side note theres a TON of names I forgot about. For the younger guys on here, go youtube joey kocur and watch a little ball of thunder absolutely break someones face. In my opinion he was the most entertaining fighter ive ever seen.
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Im 30 and i remember the Domi-kocur-king line i think. i used to love seeing them on the ice always knew a fight was coming.

I still have a Kocur jersey
 
1999/06/26 New York Rangers traded Mark Savard and 1st round selection (Oleg Saprykin) in 1999 to Calgary Flames for the rights of Jan Hlavac, 1st (Jamie Lundmark) and 3rd (Patrick Aufiero) round selections in 1999.

Pittsburgh Penguins traded Ulf Samuelsson and Luc Robitaille to the New York Rangers for Petr Nedved and Sergei Zubov.

Boston Bruins traded Rob DiMaio to the New York Rangers for Mike Knuble

All these hurt and i know ulfie was good but zubov was perhaps our best point producing d man ever.
 
messiah said:
1999/06/26 New York Rangers traded Mark Savard and 1st round selection (Oleg Saprykin) in 1999 to Calgary Flames for the rights of Jan Hlavac, 1st (Jamie Lundmark) and 3rd (Patrick Aufiero) round selections in 1999.

Pittsburgh Penguins traded Ulf Samuelsson and Luc Robitaille to the New York Rangers for Petr Nedved and Sergei Zubov.

Boston Bruins traded Rob DiMaio to the New York Rangers for Mike Knuble

All these hurt and i know ulfie was good but zubov was perhaps our best point producing d man ever.
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One thing to remember about Savard when he was here is that he wasn't very popular with his teammates. Part of the reason the Rangers moved him was he was quite a bit arrogant. Another thing was his skating was not that great--one of the main reasons he dropped in the draft and if I remember correctly the Rangers drafted him in the 4th round even though he was putting up huge numbers in juniors--he was also a bit sneaky dirty--get under the skin player--his skating got better over the years and his attitude settled down a bit after some time.

Knuble was a very late bloomer. We got him from Detroit--he was a 4th liner there and he pretty much played like a 4th liner for us.
 
The worst trade in Rangers history was absolutely Rick Middleton for Wayne Cashman.
 
Vinster said:
The worst trade in Rangers history was absolutely Rick Middleton for Wayne Cashman.
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You mean Ken Hodge right? I think the Rangers and the fans would have been happier with Wayne Cashman.
 
eco's bones said:
One thing to remember about Savard when he was here is that he wasn't very popular with his teammates. Part of the reason the Rangers moved him was he was quite a bit arrogant. Another thing was his skating was not that great--one of the main reasons he dropped in the draft and if I remember correctly the Rangers drafted him in the 4th round even though he was putting up huge numbers in juniors--he was also a bit sneaky dirty--get under the skin player--his skating got better over the years and his attitude settled down a bit after some time.

Knuble was a very late bloomer. We got him from Detroit--he was a 4th liner there and he pretty much played like a 4th liner for us.
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I read this and thought 1 thing impatience. Knuble, Savard, Dupuis all sent away cause of impatience
 
Blueblood9 said:
I read this and thought 1 thing impatience. Knuble, Savard, Dupuis all sent away cause of impatience
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Impatience is one of those words that sums up this franchise nicely. The last time the Rangers drafted someone who ended up having three 30 goal seasons with the team? 1971. Steve Vickers.

Youngsters like Granato, Sandstrom and Amonte all showed tons of promise, hit 30 goals, then were shipped off for older, more established guys on the downside of their careers.
 
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Kelly Miller and Mike Ridley for Bobby Carpenter is a pretty pathetic looking trade.

I've always seen people compare Steps to Ridley.
 
Blueblood9 said:
I read this and thought 1 thing impatience. Knuble, Savard, Dupuis all sent away cause of impatience
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In respect to Savard and his attitude--Hlavac who we got back was a pretty hot commodity at the time and for a few seasons at least was on a line with Nedved and Dvorak and it was a pretty dangerous line. He wasn't an old guy either. Knuble came out of Michigan St. and for several years pretty much did not do a lot--that's why I called him a very late bloomer.

Dupuis could also be called a very late bloomer. He played a few years in Minnesota before his two weeks or so with the Rangers. He was a very speedy forward who specialized as a penalty killer. I remember after we got him--he didn't impress Rangers posters here very much--the consensus was no big loss when we dumped him for Bourret---seemed like a hell of a deal for us at the time trading Dupuis for someone a bit younger.
 
messiah said:
Pittsburgh Penguins traded Ulf Samuelsson and Luc Robitaille to the New York Rangers for Petr Nedved and Sergei Zubov.
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And the Rangers Power Play has been in the toilet ever since. I remember getting into a heated discussion with co-workers when this trade was made. They were happy we had an enforcer to put up with the goons in Philly... I was stating that we would forever be chasing the lead dog, adjusting the roster to match the team that finished in first the year before, instead of leading the charge, and making the competition catch you...

eco's bones said:
One thing to remember about Savard when he was here is that he wasn't very popular with his teammates. Part of the reason the Rangers moved him was he was quite a bit arrogant.
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Funny you mention this. I remember forming an unfavorable opinion about him after I saw the impromptu photo taken on the ice after #99's last game. With all the players on the club, he managed to plant himself right next to Gretz... Didn't seem right, as if he wanted to be known for the rest of his life as the guy who got to sit next to Wayne Gretzky on the ice after his last game... Came off as a tool.

Cheers!
-Doug
 
Pass art by Brassard said:
He wasn't even in New York for 3 weeks before being traded again... We traded him for a guy, who was drafted with a pick which was originally ours but we traded to Atlanta + our 1st rounder to move up several spots to pick Staal. Weird that Bourret made it to the Rangers after all, only to be a bust
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Wow,I forgot about that. I hoped for the best,I liked the guy. But damn what a bust
 
JayQueensNY88 said:
Wow,I forgot about that. I hoped for the best,I liked the guy. But damn what a bust
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I don't know a lot about hockey, but stuff like this, I remember. Weird trades, funny altercations, draft picks that don't live up to their expectation.

Like Shane McColgan. He was projected to be a 1st overall pick in 2011, but in stead, dropped on the list due to injuries and bad performances. We picked him up in the latter stages and it would be amazing if he still makes it to the NHL, but will most likely end up playing at AHL level. Too bad for such a huge prospect in his time with Kelowna
 
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