Confirmed with Link: Rangers sign Ryan Lindgren to ECL

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Does anyone else find it weird they don’t mention at all that Lindgren played with Lettieri last year?

They keep talking about his relationship with Brady, which is fine, but Lettieri captained and actually played with Lindgren

Just seems odd


I’ve read he played w Lettieri . Both have a legit shot at being full time rangers

I actually think Lettieri is 4th on the rw depth chart now they just need some bodies to help CT get in the playoffs

No point to start Lindgren on the big club but the D is thin so a good camp will go a long way
 
Would be nice to find a defensemen - or anyone for that mattr - that jumps in when a young skilled teammate is getting punched in the face by a cynical goon.
 
Would be nice to find a defensemen - or anyone for that mattr - that jumps in when a young skilled teammate is getting punched in the face by a cynical goon.

I'm intrigued by the goon in your story. What has made him so cynical? Can it be traced back to his childhood, or has he been wronged by a lover in recent years?

I feel like his is a story that needs to be told.
 
The comment I made re: Girardi, I'd like to explain further. Early in his career, a young Girardi and Staal, you could put them out there against other teams' top lines and they'd neutralize them. They didn't allow a lot of chances, they frustrated the opposition's top talent, and--with Hank--they kept the opposition off the score sheet. Maybe they weren't good at transitioning the puck or generating offense on the other end, but there wasn't much emphasis on that as things like Corsi hadn't really gained traction from what I recall.

So when I say I'd love it of Lindgren was an in-his-prime Girardi, I mean a tough, stay-at-home type that can shut down the opposition and frustrate opposing forwards. Maybe a more modern version--one who can also move the puck a bit and not be a black hole when it comes to turning the play around. That's kind of what I was thinking. A modern late-00's, early-teens version of Girardi.
 
I think some of you should YouTube his wjc highlights. His skill level is considerably above that of Gudas. Skating and passing is light years ahead of Dan G.
Kid could see pp time.
Yeah, I agree with this. I admittedly have only seen a bit of him but at the levels he's been at previously he seems pretty good moving the puck around. Doesn't have a laser of a shot or huge creativity necessarily, but seems more than comfortable making crisp passes and reading where his teammates are going to be.
 
The comment I made re: Girardi, I'd like to explain further. Early in his career, a young Girardi and Staal, you could put them out there against other teams' top lines and they'd neutralize them. They didn't allow a lot of chances, they frustrated the opposition's top talent, and--with Hank--they kept the opposition off the score sheet. Maybe they weren't good at transitioning the puck or generating offense on the other end, but there wasn't much emphasis on that as things like Corsi hadn't really gained traction from what I recall.

So when I say I'd love it of Lindgren was an in-his-prime Girardi, I mean a tough, stay-at-home type that can shut down the opposition and frustrate opposing forwards. Maybe a more modern version--one who can also move the puck a bit and not be a black hole when it comes to turning the play around. That's kind of what I was thinking. A modern late-00's, early-teens version of Girardi.

Some of the way Girardi is talked about is disingenuous anyway. The tendency to bank the puck off the glass and get the puck out all the time was trained into him by Renney and Tortorella, who weren’t exactly coaching against the grain for the way the game was played anyway. It’s extremely difficult to break habits like that, especially when your coach who likes a different style isn’t even asking you to change.

He was never a high end puck mover, but even if he was developed in an era where the decisions defensemen were being asked to make were different, he would still have ended up in the NHL. One fun way to look at it is that Girardi, a supposedly by the numbers defensive D, put up 39 points in 66 games in his first year in the AHL. DeAngelo, a supposedly by the numbers offensive D, put up 43 points in 69 games in his first year in the AHL.

And I think you’re right. The league as a whole needs players who can handle the puck and turn the play around, but are defensively oriented in their style. That’s essentially who Kevin Klein was. Lindgren could be that kind of player.
 
I`m looking forward to see some grit next season with our D core - Ryan should fit that role perfectly.
 
Its so disrespectful how some talk about Girardi's career with the Rangers. If you bring up that a player plays like Girardi, some consider that a bad thing.

Girardi got multiple first place Norris votes at his best. At his best, he was the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. McDonagh has never gotten first place Norris votes, neither has Shattenkirk, neither has Staal. We can safely assume that Skjei won't be getting any, let alone any of the rookies who are talked about in such favorable terms like Pionk, DeAngelo, Gilmour.

Girardi has had an excellent career. The overwhelming majority of prospects won't come close to having the career he's had. If you want to compare a prospect to Girardi, you probably should be comparing one of the best prospects in the world to Girardi, not a secondary prospect.
 
Its so disrespectful how some talk about Girardi's career with the Rangers. If you bring up that a player plays like Girardi, some consider that a bad thing.

Girardi got multiple first place Norris votes at his best. At his best, he was the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. McDonagh has never gotten first place Norris votes, neither has Shattenkirk, neither has Staal. We can safely assume that Skjei won't be getting any, let alone any of the rookies who are talked about in such favorable terms like Pionk, DeAngelo, Gilmour.

Girardi has had an excellent career. The overwhelming majority of prospects won't come close to having the career he's had. If you want to compare a prospect to Girardi, you probably should be comparing one of the best prospects in the world to Girardi, not a secondary prospect.
Dan Girardi was a GREAT ranger. Yes he had a bad SCF but the guy was a Warrior. I have no issues with him
 
Its so disrespectful how some talk about Girardi's career with the Rangers. If you bring up that a player plays like Girardi, some consider that a bad thing.

Girardi got multiple first place Norris votes at his best. At his best, he was the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. McDonagh has never gotten first place Norris votes, neither has Shattenkirk, neither has Staal. We can safely assume that Skjei won't be getting any, let alone any of the rookies who are talked about in such favorable terms like Pionk, DeAngelo, Gilmour.

Girardi has had an excellent career. The overwhelming majority of prospects won't come close to having the career he's had. If you want to compare a prospect to Girardi, you probably should be comparing one of the best prospects in the world to Girardi, not a secondary prospect.

He had an excellent 11-12 and he had a decent career. I agree Machinehead goes overboard. But I think so is this.
 
I'm intrigued by the goon in your story. What has made him so cynical? Can it be traced back to his childhood, or has he been wronged by a lover in recent years?

I feel like his is a story that needs to be told.
........it’s MEEEEeeeee!!!!
 
Its so disrespectful how some talk about Girardi's career with the Rangers. If you bring up that a player plays like Girardi, some consider that a bad thing.

Girardi got multiple first place Norris votes at his best. At his best, he was the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. McDonagh has never gotten first place Norris votes, neither has Shattenkirk, neither has Staal. We can safely assume that Skjei won't be getting any, let alone any of the rookies who are talked about in such favorable terms like Pionk, DeAngelo, Gilmour.

Girardi has had an excellent career. The overwhelming majority of prospects won't come close to having the career he's had. If you want to compare a prospect to Girardi, you probably should be comparing one of the best prospects in the world to Girardi, not a secondary prospect.

Girardi had a decent career with the Rangers and never at any point was he the best defensively in the league. If you truly believe that, you're drinking your own koolaid.

Not only that but "multiple 1st place votes?" He got TWO 1st place votes in 2012. I don't know who exactly they came from, but I'd imagine one of them was a homer vote, if not both. You say the word multiple as to imply that there were several that believe he was good enough that year to win the Norris. Stop. The narrative is false and it's highly overblown.

If you truly believe that McDonagh was or is not a better defenseman than Girardi, then I suggest you take a step back and re-evaluate. There is no point in time that Girardi was a better defender than McDonagh outside 2011.

I would never shove my opinion down anyone's throat. This is isn't an opinion. It's fact.
 
Girardi’s career is wholly owed to Lundqvist. If Lundqvist was average, Girardi would’ve never played on a first pair because he would’ve constantly been fetching the puck from his own net. Was he the worst defenseman in the league every year of his career? No. Was he ever among the best? f*** no

Staal was at least a legit shutdown defenseman at some points of his career.

I do like the physical side of Lindgren, but will be very disappointed if he overly relies on shot blocking and can’t transition to save his life.
 
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Girardi had a decent career with the Rangers and never at any point was he the best defensively in the league. If you truly believe that, you're drinking your own koolaid.

Not only that but "multiple 1st place votes?" He got TWO 1st place votes in 2012. I don't know who exactly they came from, but I'd imagine one of them was a homer vote, if not both. You say the word multiple as to imply that there were several that believe he was good enough that year to win the Norris. Stop. The narrative is false and it's highly overblown.

If you truly believe that McDonagh was or is not a better defenseman than Girardi, then I suggest you take a step back and re-evaluate. There is no point in time that Girardi was a better defender than McDonagh outside 2011.

I would never shove my opinion down anyone's throat. This is isn't an opinion. It's fact.

I didn't say he was the best defenseman at any point, I didn't say he was better than McDonagh. Maybe try addressing points I actually made.
 
Yeah, I agree with this. I admittedly have only seen a bit of him but at the levels he's been at previously he seems pretty good moving the puck around. Doesn't have a laser of a shot or huge creativity necessarily, but seems more than comfortable making crisp passes and reading where his teammates are going to be.
Which is what you need in a defensive-oriented defenseman these days. Fine by me!
 
Girardi’s career is wholly owed to Lundqvist. If Lundqvist was average, Girardi would’ve never played on a first pair because he would’ve constantly been fetching the puck from his own net. Was he the worst defenseman in the league every year of his career? No. Was he ever among the best? **** no

Staal was at least a legit shutdown defenseman at some points of his career.

I do like the physical side of Lindgren, but will be very disappointed if he overly relies on shot blocking and can’t transition to save his life.
Lindgren is pretty good at transition
A lot of people will dislike hearing this comparison but he’s somewhat similar to what we had in Smith LAST year (not this year)
Good defensively, can transition well, really good skater and can move the puck around but not put up a ton of points and also with good-great physicality
 
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He picked up a secondary assist on Hartford's PP goal to open the scoring. First professional point.
 

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