In before @Thirty One makes fun of the title saying 775 million per year.
Confirmed with Link: Rangers Sign Julien Gauthier [1Y/775k]
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Off Sides
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What if the Rangers have two separate distinct trades that might happen, yet one of those teams actually wants Blackwell, and the other team wants Howden.
Rangers could not make both trades unless they had both Rooney and Gauthier to meet exposure.
As slim as that may be, it still make sense to have an extra guy who meets the requirements in case something slim comes about.
I have qualified my post the entire time by saying slim, low chance, I am not sure what else I can say.
I don't know. But I'd like the choice of who to protect to come down to those two. Maybe protect Rooney and trade Blackwell.
Thirty One
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Speaks to the level of trust Gallant has in him. #ToTheMoon
He hasn't fulfilled his potential. Why is that? Lack of opportunity? He's not that good? I think it's both, but the former is driven by the latter.
Either way, I stand by my remark. He's here because there's a sense that there's the potential for him to be more, not because of what he has actually done at the highest level.
Amazing Kreiderman
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I'd probably go with Rooney out of those 2. Blackwell doesn't really fill a need, Rooney is a very solid 4C
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Yeah I get that and won't be angry if Blackie protected and Gauth exposed
but I will be pleased if Gauth gets a chance under Gallant
Keep wondering if Carp's repeated expectation, that Kraken will claim Rooney, has legs
Blais to Win
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NYR Viper
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I would protect Gauthier over Rooney. I like Rooney and I would honestly re-sign him as a 4C here. In saying that, there will be guys out there who can provide the same thing and I believe in Gauthier's potential. He needs minutes though. If there is no chance of him getting meaningful minutes, than it's Rooney
Rooney is fine for what he is, but he’s so so so easily replaceable.
I doubt Seattle would take him anyway.
I doubt Seattle would take him anyway.
NoQuitInNewMexico
it's okay cause it's all just the way it should be
Kind of a waste of time to try to read other people's minds, but I would imagine Julien is the kind of player an expansion team would want to take a chance on. Rooney is the safest lock to play a stable role with the Rangers, but how useful is an okay fourth line center who will absolutely never be anything more than that to an expansion team? They'll get guys like that as cap dumps or whatever.
Howden, not impossible that he takes a step forward and has a good, long bottom six career but it's been a while here. And with Blackwell, I don't see it when he isn't with Panarin.
Howden, not impossible that he takes a step forward and has a good, long bottom six career but it's been a while here. And with Blackwell, I don't see it when he isn't with Panarin.
Harbour Dog
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I'd prefer to protect Gauthier, but as long as it isn't Howden, then I'll be fine with it.
Definitely not as shitty a situation as having to expose Fast/Lindgren to Vegas, and that turned out A-OK.
Definitely not as shitty a situation as having to expose Fast/Lindgren to Vegas, and that turned out A-OK.
I mean, sure? But you still have to show something. Gauthier didn't show a whole lot, which is why he spent half of the year not playing and the other half of the year playing sparingly.
Look I don't hate Gauthier or think he's total trash, and there's a non-zero chance that he suddenly develops into a strong contributor. I just feel like, with where we are as a franchise in terms of NHL talent, NHL-ready talent, and guys in the pipeline, I'd rather hold solid, cheap contributors like Rooney or Blackwell than someone like Gauthier who I feel in increasingly a longshot.
Number 9
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The Rooney and Blackwells of a team are good for morale and are established with the guys in the locker room. Yes, they can be replaced easily but maybe not what they bring to a room. I think they are well liked. They have bled for the guys already, its why I would at least keep Rooney.
And, for a team that has committed itself (supposedly) to being harder to play against, Rooney and Blackwell were two of the harder guys to play against. Not from a talent perspective, but in terms of bodying up, having a good motor, fighting for every puck, etc. Not that I think either is special, but it would be funny to allow them potentially to be chosen while keeping a guy who was literally invisible on most of of his shifts.
Given the choice, I’d probably protect Blackwell of the 4.
You can find a Rooney type for Rooney money in UFA if necessary.
Protecting Howden would be indefensible
You can find a Rooney type for Rooney money in UFA if necessary.
Protecting Howden would be indefensible
Kodiak
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I like Rooney as a 4C but how many veteran 4th liners are going to be available to Seattle in the expansion draft? I don't see any reason why they would take Rooney over the other options.
Gauthier and Howden are upside picks. Both are big, young, former first round picks that you hope would become bigger pieces when they have larger roles. Blackwell has shown some goal-scoring ability at the NHL level in his short time here. But what reason is there to pick Rooney over the dozens of other exposed 4th liners in this draft?
Fitzy
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f*** Gauthier, Marry Rooney, Kill Blackwell
OrlandK
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The reality is that losing any of them at this juncture is not a big deal, at least compared to what many other teams are confronted with. And we don't even have a 3rd defenseman worth protecting. Pretty good for a team with playoff aspirations. As an example the Flyers have are supposedly going to expose all of Voracek, van Riemsdyk and Gostisbehere. And there is an argument for at least 3 of the 4 forwards, depending on potential vs. immediate usefulness.
Might have been worth our second rounder (likely better than the one the Devils gave which was the Islanders pick) to get Graves as the 3rd LD but I guess we are looking for a more veteran stopgap until the prospects mature.
Looking forward to the trading bazaar over the next couple of weeks.
Might have been worth our second rounder (likely better than the one the Devils gave which was the Islanders pick) to get Graves as the 3rd LD but I guess we are looking for a more veteran stopgap until the prospects mature.
Looking forward to the trading bazaar over the next couple of weeks.
Thirty One
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Gauthier has to be one of the most overrated players by the posters here for quite some time. Yeah he's big and yeah, he might have some skill for his size. But in the end he has not been able to put it together at all. He hasn't even managed to consistently be playing.
I'd expose Gauthier before Blackwell for sure, no doubt about it.
I'd expose Gauthier before Blackwell for sure, no doubt about it.
Blais to Win
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“In the end…”?
End of what?
He’s played 1/2 a season over three years and he’s only 23, a big guy which is a type that we know take longer to marinate.
Take a season to look at him, for heaven's sake.
End of what?
He’s played 1/2 a season over three years and he’s only 23, a big guy which is a type that we know take longer to marinate.
Take a season to look at him, for heaven's sake.
MortUWary
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I’m pretty sure that Ron Francis was the GM of Carolina when Julien Gauthier was selected by them (21st overall in the first round) back in 2016. If he’s not protected by the Rangers, I’d put money on Francis taking him for Seattle.
