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I'm pretty sure you have playoff rights if you had full season. You just have to pay for all 4 rounds upfront if you don't renew
 
broadwayblue said:
Is that even legal? I thought that as a season subscriber you had right of first refusal to purchase your same seats for the playoffs. Seems a stretch to say if you won't be a subscriber next season you are no longer entitled to a benefit for this season, no?
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T2 said:
That's what I thought and I explained it to them. I said they are very likely opening themselves up to legal action. I also forwarded them my renewal email which advertises as the first point first right to purchase playoff tickets. I'm fairly certain it would fall somewhere within false advertising, but I'm not going to waste my time or money fighting them over this. Hopefully it bites them, but what can I do.
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It's become apparent to me that the rangers have been slightly tweaking the language over the past few years to take away what had been standard STH holder rights for years. Anyone who is renewing for next year should be prepared to see more of this.

I don't have the physical copies of the paperwork in front of me (at the moment) for years past. But the language regarding playoff tickets in previous season said something along the lines of "Guaranteed playoff seats." What's currently listed on the MSG website as a STH benefit is "Playoff ticket priority access***" Which I'm sure MSG will argue that your priority access is the opportunity to buy them only on the condition you re-subscribe next year. As crappy as that is, I'm not sure MSG is doing anything illegal in not offering you the tickets (see below). After all, they're probably going to try and lure in someone to replace you with those playoff tickets. It's a business, and you're not really important to them since you're not renewing. Yes MSG is too dumb to realize they themselves are the cause of you leaving, which ironically is the heart of the problem.

If anyone has a physical copy or saved digital copy of the renewal terms from end of last season, I would be curious to compare if they changed policy since the terms were sent out (which would also change my above opinion of what I said about anything illegal being done). If they have changed these terms since the original document went out it wouldn't really surprise me, as I've previously pointed out how MSG has already been going against the terms of this season.

***https://www.nhl.com/rangers/tickets/membership-plans#full-season
 
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This is getting more and more out of hand as each year goes by, I wonder what'll be the case next year and i think its only a matter of time before everyone on this forum has had enough, bc this coming year may be my last, depending how this tiered pricing goes and what they do to us next year. For the record i got whacked with that 25% increase and I'm on the tenured pricing, just image what the price is going to be from some fool who is just coming in
 
JRinNYC said:
Speaking of "random" drawings, I always wonders how people won to be on the ice for the "jersey off their backs" at the last game of the season? It seems like a big mystery.
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I know that my Brother who is also a STH brought his son to the last game about 10 years ago when he was only about 6 years old and he got picked to go on the ice and receive a jersey. Of all players he got Jarko Immonen!
Not sure of the year or his exact spelling but definitely remember the player.
 
bobbop said:
I would go check your paperwork for this year. This is still 2016-17.
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whoever wrote a few posts back about them messing with the language in terms was right on. I haven't been reading everything with a fine toothed comb, just looking at the major stuff like them forcing you to give up your right to class actions, but I have been saving the terms every time they change them. This was the language from the 2016-17 renewal invoice:

"For avoidance of doubt, this Subscription applies to pre-season and regular season games only and does not include any right to
purchase or otherwise obtain playoff tickets for any playoff games. MSG may to elect to extend to Subscriber the opportunity to
purchase playoff tickets (for regular season seats covered by this Subscription or otherwise), and may do so under such terms as
MSG, in its sole and absolute discretion, deems appropriate. If MSG does extend such opportunity to Subscriber, playoff Tickets
must be purchased for all playoff rounds offered by MSG to the Subscriber (unless otherwise stated by MSG); otherwise, all offered
and remaining games (both those being offered and any subsequent round or series) will be released for public sale."
 
GordonGecko said:
whoever wrote a few posts back about them messing with the language in terms was right on. I haven't been reading everything with a fine toothed comb, just looking at the major stuff like them forcing you to give up your right to class actions, but I have been saving the terms every time they change them. This was the language from the 2016-17 renewal invoice:

"For avoidance of doubt, this Subscription applies to pre-season and regular season games only and does not include any right to
purchase or otherwise obtain playoff tickets for any playoff games. MSG may to elect to extend to Subscriber the opportunity to
purchase playoff tickets (for regular season seats covered by this Subscription or otherwise), and may do so under such terms as
MSG, in its sole and absolute discretion, deems appropriate. If MSG does extend such opportunity to Subscriber, playoff Tickets
must be purchased for all playoff rounds offered by MSG to the Subscriber (unless otherwise stated by MSG); otherwise, all offered
and remaining games (both those being offered and any subsequent round or series) will be released for public sale."
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Hey @GordonGeko... If you have a large stockpile of old agreements, I can see what I can find on my end as well, it might be interesting to see just how many "rights/benefits" have quietly been stripped away over the past few years.
 
tailgunner said:
update...just got an email from michelle at MSG letting me know my playoff seats are cancelled...I replied back a nice sarcastic message and asked for a proper phone call to discuss....my issue is...if my seats are going to be sold anyway to some stranger on the street, why not sell them to me since I was the one that gave you $8900 this year for the ST...frankly I could care less and I hope the Rangers can go on and win the Stanley cup on home ice...maybe me not being at the game will help
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I can't find the exact post now, but I remember reading when the invoices had gone out there was some discussion about the 10% discount that disappeared this year. I remember someone posting that MSG had told them the priced offered to STH with already had the 10% discount applied, if you didn't renew you would be paying a higher prices....

Am I making up that this was discussed? did MSG just reneg that? ... Just curious as to why you weren't given that offer.
 
GordonGecko said:
whoever wrote a few posts back about them messing with the language in terms was right on. I haven't been reading everything with a fine toothed comb, just looking at the major stuff like them forcing you to give up your right to class actions, but I have been saving the terms every time they change them. This was the language from the 2016-17 renewal invoice:

"For avoidance of doubt, this Subscription applies to pre-season and regular season games only and does not include any right to
purchase or otherwise obtain playoff tickets for any playoff games. MSG may to elect to extend to Subscriber the opportunity to
purchase playoff tickets (for regular season seats covered by this Subscription or otherwise), and may do so under such terms as
MSG, in its sole and absolute discretion, deems appropriate. If MSG does extend such opportunity to Subscriber, playoff Tickets
must be purchased for all playoff rounds offered by MSG to the Subscriber (unless otherwise stated by MSG); otherwise, all offered
and remaining games (both those being offered and any subsequent round or series) will be released for public sale."
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Holy smoke, this is BS. I don't know of any other team in any sports that is this egregious. If the law allows, they would ban all secondary resales.
 
Any idea when we'll be getting access to playoff tickets? I'm thinking that it may be different that it's a pay after the game happens option. Wonder what kind of restrictions doing that will cause.
 
Deadbeats like myself who have not renewed have been extended to April 7...after that they will not give me playoff tickets
 
mrjimmyg89 said:
Any idea when we'll be getting access to playoff tickets? I'm thinking that it may be different that it's a pay after the game happens option. Wonder what kind of restrictions doing that will cause.
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I expect a package with all the tickets to arrive in the mail, and the barcodes wont be turned on unless there is a game.
 
superyan said:
I expect a package with all the tickets to arrive in the mail, and the barcodes wont be turned on unless there is a game.
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I don't think there will be any difference. The renewal stuff said the same 72 hour rule was in effect for the playoffs. Don't think they'd mess around with the barcodes.
 
Just got my tracking number for the playoff package. They are showing up Wednesday.
 
Taken from the Montreal HF Boards page:

Game 1: NYR @ MTL, Wednesday April 12th 2017
Game 2: NYR @ MTL, Friday April 14th 2017
Game 3: MTL @ NYR, Sunday April 16th 2017
Game 4: MTL @ NYR, Monday April 18th 2017
Game 5: NYR @ MTL, TBA (if necessary)
Game 6: MTL @ NYR, TBA (if necessary)
Game 7: NYR @ MTL, TBA (if necessary)
 
Socs5199 said:
Taken from the Montreal HF Boards page:

Game 1: NYR @ MTL, Wednesday April 12th 2017
Game 2: NYR @ MTL, Friday April 14th 2017
Game 3: MTL @ NYR, Sunday April 16th 2017
Game 4: MTL @ NYR, Monday April 18th 2017
Game 5: NYR @ MTL, TBA (if necessary)
Game 6: MTL @ NYR, TBA (if necessary)
Game 7: NYR @ MTL, TBA (if necessary)
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that's not official it was that poster's speculation on what the schedule will be
 
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