Larry Brooks: Rangers/Red Wings Trouba Talks Heating up, NYR would retain $2.5

[UAGoalieGuy]

This would be mu guess. Perhaps a 24 2nd + 25 3rd + Veleno

Would like to get a 2024 #2, guess we'll know in about 30 minutes otherwise the deal likely won't get announced until Monday

 

[nyr2k2]

Getting a 3rd for Kakko doesn't help the team enough for me.

Just not worth it, better off hoping he can actually do something this year.

I don't care what he wants, he'll have a chance elsewhere one day if it doesn't work here

Yeah, while I don't mind basically giving away Trouba (or even paying to do so), Kakko still brings legitimate value and there's a non-zero chance he breaks out. A third wouldn't do it for me, either.

 

[bhamill]

Getting a 3rd for Kakko doesn't help the team enough for me.

Just not worth it, better off hoping he can actually do something this year.

I don't care what he wants, he'll have a chance elsewhere one day if it doesn't work here

Kakko has already shown he can be a top notch defensive presence while scoring 40 points. And he’s just 23. Still thinking he can be a 60 point guy within a couple of years isn’t crazy at all. People (not you obviously) thinking a 3rd is a reasonable return is a head scratcher. If we can get a 23 year old 40 point defensive winger (at a 2.4mil cap hit) for a 3rd I’d say go for it immediately. Hahaha. Crazy. Drury is not doing that. It’ll be MORE than a second in value for sure if he goes.

 

[rangers1314]

Copp looked absolutely finished last season. Why on earth do people want him?

At least Trouba can still take someone’s noggin off every once in a while.

 

[Kords]

I don’t hate Trouba as much as most here, but I love putting these dudes on notice. First with Goodrow and now the Captain. Some dudes are too comfortable, props to Drury for reminding them they shouldn’t be.

 

[Clark Kellogg]

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Trouba follows the footsteps of Rangers Captains unceremoniously dumped because of contract disputes or performance relative to salary. I'd almost call it the curse of the captain.

Since Messier left in 98 because of contract dispute.

Leetch - couldn't bear the burden and heavily affected his play. Team construction started to bring in the corpses of yesteryear.

Messier take 2. - past his prime and the epitome of the Mercenary Rangers of the dark ages. Played well past his prime but we ignored the sins for what he gave us in 94.

Jagr - awesome before the C. Pretty good with the C but then bolted to KHL because of $$$

Drury - overpaid and underdelivered. Shown the door early because of injuries.

Callahan - the most heart and soul captain traded because of contract dispute

McD - best all around dmen since Leetch. Jettisoned in one of the worst trades in franchise history for a half assed rebuild

Trouba - because the real leaders of this team for 3 years refused to step up and wear the C instead of the A because of "feelings" as soon as he put the C on his performance has cratered outside of delivering CTE to a dozen of players in the playoffs

Honorable mention: Hank and the shitshow 3 goalie rotation before buyout and his health issues stopped his vengeance tour in DC.

 

[McRanger92]

Trouba follows the footsteps of Rangers Captains unceremoniously dumped because of contract disputes or performance relative to salary. I'd almost call it the curse of the captain.

Since Messier left in 98 because of contract dispute.

Leetch - couldn't bear the burden and heavily affected his play. Team construction started to bring in the corpses of yesteryear.

Messier take 2. - past his prime and the epitome of the Mercenary Rangers of the dark ages. Played well past his prime but we ignored the sins for what he gave us in 94.

Jagr - awesome before the C. Pretty good with the C but then bolted to KHL because of $$$

Drury - overpaid and underdelivered. Shown the door early because of injuries.

Callahan - the most heart and soul captain traded because of contract dispute

McD - best all around dmen since Leetch. Jettisoned in one of the worst trades in franchise history for a half assed rebuild

Trouba - because the real leaders of this team for 3 years refused to step up and wear the C instead of the A because of "feelings" as soon as he put the C on his performance has cratered outside of delivering CTE to a dozen of players in the playoffs

Honorable mention: Hank and the shitshow 3 goalie rotation before buyout and his health issues stopped his vengeance tour in DC.

Well said. Who is next? Kreider picking up the crown from the gutter is a little too romantic I think lol.

 

[mas0764]

Does kakko find himself in this deal?

Hell no

 

[NickyFotiu]

Insanity. Clearing up all that cap and eating only 2.5, I’ll drive the guy to the airport myself. I don’t need any other return for moving him, I’ll take a bag of pucks.

I think it is good that Drury has friends and former teammates around the league.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Hell no

Wouldn't we want to know the details of the deal before saying yes or no for sure?

 

[DanielBrassard]

Friedman saying rangers and Detroit hoping to make deal today

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Friedman said on espn draft coverage that the Detriot Trouba trade could be done today.

 

[nyr2k2]

I think it is good that Drury has friends and former teammates around the league.

Honestly yeah, this is where the good old boys network helps you.

Friedman said on espn draft coverage that the Detriot Trouba trade could be done today.

Makes it feel like an inevitability.

 

[effen]

Well said. Who is next? Kreider picking up the crown from the gutter is a little too romantic I think lol.

That ship sailed several years ago.

 

[Flan the incredible]

I have a funny feeling this trade is not going to be a good one for the Rangers. I dont see anything great on the wings roster that I would target that they would trade and trouba despite all the hate here is not bad for 5.5 million. Copp or Holl plus the retention is jump dumb.

 

[will1066]

We might be dealing with a stronger position than you think though.

15 team no trade means that there are 16 teams he can go to. It's more than possible that there are 1 or 2 other teams on his yes list that have interest.

Theres no doubt that this has been in the works for a while and Detroit is definitely his preferred destination, but they may already have something in place after they've deliberated with other teams for the last week and are just waiting for July 1 to get things moving.

Yeah but the cap hit is big enough to scare off a bunch of those 16. Even if they were interested, the cap hit cut it off. Retention has always been the key to making anything possible in this situation. It's possible Drury had tire kickers and retention was a prerequisite.

 

[Hire Sather]

I have a funny feeling this trade is not going to be a good one for the Rangers. I dont see anything great on the wings roster that I would target that they would trade and trouba despite all the hate here is not bad for 5.5 million. Copp or Holl plus the retention is jump dumb.

I'm not worried about the trade, I'm worried about using the cap space to lock us into a worse deal long term

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

 

[will1066]

Drury:

@Leonardo87

 

[LaffyTaffy13]

I don’t hate Trouba as much as most here, but I love putting these dudes on notice. First with Goodrow and now the Captain. Some dudes are too comfortable, props to Drury for reminding them they shouldn’t be.

Agreed. Country club atmosphere must end. Mika’s pouting and whining must be called out

 

[Brutananadilewski]

Copp looked absolutely finished last season. Why on earth do people want him?

At least Trouba can still take someone’s noggin off every once in a while.

Even his own!

 

[Leonardo87]

Wow, if happens

 

[ICanMotteBelieveIt]

Could have sworn I read right here on HF it was impossible to trade Trouba. Also impossible to move Goodys contract. I guess the impossible isn't so impossible anymore.

It's impossible for us to win the Cup.

 

[NickyFotiu]

It's impossible for us to win the Cup.

LOL