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Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Updated: 11.25.21)

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cwede said:
Thanks.
Some teams are calling their early prospect camps Development camps.
When those were held just after draft, NCAA guys attended.
With this timing, leading into big team camp, I didn't expect many unsigned draftees, but very little has come out about NYR plans, since regime change
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I remember news about Bobby Trivigno joining our prospect camp but with him committing to another year in college that might not happen now.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
It also said he "opened the regular season" with the game against Mladá Boleslav when of course that was a Champions League game.
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Yeah but that's debatable. It's the regular season technically because the regular season consists of 2 leagues they play in. I could make that stick in court, so to speak :laugh:

I have a bigger issue with the blatant misinformation about his contract sliding.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
Yeah but that's debatable. It's the regular season technically because the regular season consists of 2 leagues they play in. I could make that stick in court, so to speak :laugh:

I have a bigger issue with the blatant misinformation about his contract sliding.
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Agreed on the last part.

Disagreed on the first. When you say "the regular season" the implication is clearly that your league play has started. Not any tournaments outside of the league. It's a round robin elimination stage for a non-league tournament. Like if Frölunda doesn't advance you wouldn't say their regular season is over.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
2 things wrong in that interview:

- Henriksson's contract isn't slide eligible
- Henriksson isn't AHL eligible until 2023
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Thanks for all the good stuff

Curiosity question. If you know, and if not too complicated

- when a guy on NHL contract - Henriksson now, Krav last, etc- play for Euro team, who pays them? Only NYR? Or some combo of NYR and assigned team? Thanks
 
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cwede said:
Thanks for all the good stuff

Curiosity question. If you know, and if not too complicated

- when a guy on NHL contract - Henriksson now, Krav last, etc- play for Euro team, who pays them? Only NYR? Or some combo of NYR and assigned team? Thanks
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If the NHL contract includes a signing bonus, they get that, but otherwise they are getting paid by their Euro team.
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Agreed on the last part.

Disagreed on the first. When you say "the regular season" the implication is clearly that your league play has started. Not any tournaments outside of the league. It's a round robin elimination stage for a non-league tournament. Like if Frölunda doesn't advance you wouldn't say their regular season is over.
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No because their regular season consists of both SHL and CHL.

In football, when a team plays in the qualifying round for the Champions League, their regular season has started. Those games aren't pre-season games anymore.
 
cwede said:
Thanks for all the good stuff

Curiosity question. If you know, and if not too complicated

- when a guy on NHL contract - Henriksson now, Krav last, etc- play for Euro team, who pays them? Only NYR? Or some combo of NYR and assigned team? Thanks
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If a player is sent out on loan (like Kravtsov) the NHL team still pays their salary depending on how the contract is structured (assignment clauses etc).

If a player simply isn't eligible (like Henriksson), the EU team pays their local salary and that's it.

Signing bonuses are guaranteed, minor league salary can be negotiated in the case of an assignment clause.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
No because their regular season consists of both SHL and CHL.

In football, when a team plays in the qualifying round for the Champions League, their regular season has started. Those games aren't pre-season games anymore.
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Regular season is your domestic league. I don't know why you want to argue to point. The Champions League, whether it's a qualifier or the group stage, it's the Champions League. Football or hockey. The games may count, but the regular season is your domestic season and anything outside of that is a cup competition. Could be Champions League, Carabao Cup, FA Cup, whatever. They're cups. It's not the regular season. A Swedish team could play for the Skoda Trophy and also be in the Champions League. Their regular season starts when the SHL season starts.

Even if you INSISTED that the Champions League was part of the regular season, you should still clarify that's what you're talking about. Because otherwise, if you're sent out of the tournament, is your regular season over? I mean come on. Silly.
 
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Interesting topic! :)

For me ‘regular season’ is closest to league play, but I recon as in ‘after the end of pre-season’ it could work, at the same time, the CHL are also played during the “preseason” so it gets confusing.
 
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Ola said:
Interesting topic! :)

For me ‘regular season’ is closest to league play, but I recon as in ‘after the end of pre-season’ it could work, at the same time, the CHL are also played during the “preseason” so it gets confusing.
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To me, pre-season games are friendlies where nothing is at stake. Once you start to play competitive games, that's regular season to me. Either way, it's really not worth calling Vince out on it. It's up for debate.

What's not up for debate is Henriksson's contract. It expires in 2024 regardless of where he plays.
 
Amazing Kreiderman said:
To me, pre-season games are friendlies where nothing is at stake. Once you start to play competitive games, that's regular season to me. Either way, it's really not worth calling Vince out on it. It's up for debate.

What's not up for debate is Henriksson's contract. It expires in 2024 regardless of where he plays.
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Who made you the arbiter of what is and isn't worth noting as wrong in an article? :laugh: As a freelance journalist, a factual mistake is a factual mistake and I don't try to make excuses for it, and would expect a customer to be disappointed all the same.
 
nyr2k2 said:
Who made you the arbiter of what is and isn't worth noting as wrong in an article? :laugh: As a freelance journalist, a factual mistake is a factual mistake and I don't try to make excuses for it, and would expect a customer to be disappointed all the same.
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To me, it's not worth it. Jesus f***ing Christ.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
To me, it's not worth it. Jesus f***ing Christ.
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Well, then you shouldn't have argued it with me when I first brought it up. :laugh:

You have posted here a long time but still haven't learned that you don't have to correct every single thing, or get a word in on every single thing. Sometimes you just have to look at a post and be like, "eh whatever, not worth debating."
 
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nyr2k2 said:
Well, then you shouldn't have argued it with me when I first brought it up. :laugh:

You have posted here a long time but still haven't learned that you don't have to correct every single thing, or get a word in on every single thing. Sometimes you just have to look at a post and be like, "eh whatever, not worth debating."
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My point is that I don't consider it something to bring up as a mistake in an article with the author, whereas the line about the contract being slide-eligible, is.

I still think the regular season-quote is worth debating HERE though :laugh:
 
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My point is that I don't consider it something to bring up as a mistake in an article with the author, whereas the line about the contract being slide-eligible, is.

I still think the regular season-quote is worth debating HERE though :laugh:
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The "Jesus f***ing Christ" you closed your last post with seemed to indicate a level of exasperation with me, so, forgive me if I wasn't clear on which discussion you thought was pointless.
 
nyr2k2 said:
The "Jesus f***ing Christ" you closed your last post with seemed to indicate a level of exasperation with me, so, forgive me if I wasn't clear on which discussion you thought was pointless.
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Yes, it was frustration at me not being clear in the previous post.
 
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