Prospect Info: Rangers Prospects Thread (Stats in Post #1; Updated 10.17.18) *Part II*

  • Xenforo Cloud has upgraded us to version 2.3.6. Please report any issues you experience.
Status
Not open for further replies.
No doubt. I just think it's a fallacy that ownership actually cares that much about playoff revenue.
That's the only thing that makes sense in my head (e.g. all the patchwork/bandaids). They are going to sell lots of tickets no matter what because of all the corporate shit, so what better way than having a few extra po$t season game$?
 
oh I still feel we have the same core values that we've always had. the salary cap has forced us to change the way we do SOME things, but we still like to go against the grain. we still feel we know better than the rest of the league and we still feel that we don't need to neccesarily draft stars we can buy or trade for them later. We had to sign drury and gomez to have a top line center we had to sign brad Richards to have a top line center. we didn't have our own. we had to get rick nash because we didn't have an actual star forward and to win that cup we had to go buy messier. so I see a lot of the same things that haven't changed. we were given a salary cap otherwise not much would have changed.

Things have changed a bit, but what you say is definitely illustrated by the fact that people who turn every stone like Brooks never ever even would consider to suggest that we should trade an aging vet that we just signed as an UFA, because he is just that, an UFA that came to NY.

In light of this the same crew would — never — hesitate to suggest that we deal homegrown heart and soul guys like Zucc or McD and so forth.

In short, the only loyalty that — ever — have existed in NYR-land is the loyalty to a recently signed UFA, who showed up in bad shape for camp and did very little on the ice during a season that was our worst in decades...

We are certainly not like everyone else in that regard. And the difference between us and many other organizations are downright extreme in this regard. If you put forth a notion that we should be as loyal to Zucc as we are to Shatty you are basically regarded as an UFO...
 
I think the rebuild will be interesting, so far I think they've been pretty consistent toward rebuilding since the announcement, yet I'll have to wait and see how it plays out as the announcement was not that long ago and there is likely going to be plenty of temptation to attempt to accelerate the pace right back to can kicking.
 
That's the only thing that makes sense in my head (e.g. all the patchwork/bandaids). They are going to sell lots of tickets no matter what because of all the corporate ****, so what better way than having a few extra po$t season game$?

How many Andersson, Chytil and Kravtsov jerseys have been sold? How many jerseys will be sold if we draft Hughes? There are plenty of ways to generate revenue.

You're talking about one of the richest teams in the entire sport worrying about the revenue from what might amount to no more than 2 playoff games. There's just no evidence to support that. Dolan is hardly ever even heard from when it comes to the Rangers. When you consider how much money has been spent by this organization, it sounds even more ridiculous. The buyout of Richards. Sending Redden to the minors and then buying him out. We had one of, if not the highest payroll year after year pre-salary cap.

Dolan isn't Eugene Melnyk. He isn't pinching pennies. If anything, we have too much money, and that is what has contributed to this team's penchant for going for the quick fix over being patience and trying to build through the draft.
 
How many Andersson, Chytil and Kravtsov jerseys have been sold? How many jerseys will be sold if we draft Hughes? There are plenty of ways to generate revenue.

You're talking about one of the richest teams in the entire sport worrying about the revenue from what might amount to no more than 2 playoff games. There's just no evidence to support that. Dolan is hardly ever even heard from when it comes to the Rangers. When you consider how much money has been spent by this organization, it sounds even more ridiculous. The buyout of Richards. Sending Redden to the minors and then buying him out. We had one of, if not the highest payroll year after year pre-salary cap.

Dolan isn't Eugene Melnyk. He isn't pinching pennies. If anything, we have too much money, and that is what has contributed to this team's penchant for going for the quick fix over being patience and trying to build through the draft.
Just to add to this, it was reported around the trade deadline last year that the push for a rebuild came from Dolan
 
Just to add to this, it was reported around the trade deadline last year that the push for a rebuild came from Dolan

I thought it was less that the push came from him but that he talked to Rangers management about it and fully backed the idea of a rebuild
 
I thought it was less that the push came from him but that he talked to Rangers management about it and fully backed the idea of a rebuild
I’ll see if I can find the exact quote, but my memory of this specific report or quote was that they were having consistent meetings about the path to take for the future of the team and eventually Dolan told them to just start a rebuild and do it right
 
Reunanen was scoreless, played 21 minutes, and had a whopping 8 shots. Glad he's getting big minutes as this is a big year for him developmentally. Old buddy Jarkko Immonen had 2 assists for JYP.

Lundkvist is playing for Lulea. He hasn't registered anything on the score sheet. No idea about TOI--real time stats in Swedish leagues are hard to come by, from my knowledge.
 
Reunanen was scoreless, played 21 minutes, and had a whopping 8 shots. Glad he's getting big minutes as this is a big year for him developmentally. Old buddy Jarkko Immonen had 2 assists for JYP.

Lundkvist is playing for Lulea. He hasn't registered anything on the score sheet. No idea about TOI--real time stats in Swedish leagues are hard to come by, from my knowledge.
Reunanen stuff is really encouraging, really like how much he’s shooting too
 
I dunno, I personally thought the reason we didn't win was because our strategy didn't work or adjust for L.A. and to a lesser extent because a number of guys were banged up pretty badly.

I didn't and still wouldn't rank a lack of homegrown star talent as the difference between falling 3 games short of a cup.

2 goals and Dan O'Hallaran not being a numb nuts.
 
No idea about TOI--real time stats in Swedish leagues are hard to come by, from my knowledge.

The Swedish and Finnish leagues could really take a lesson from the Extraliga in this regard.

When I'm not too busy and I'm able to track games, Lakatos' stats have been much easier to keep up with; for better or for worse.
 
We lost that series because we didn’t have guys that could go to another level and win a game in OT for us. Or a guy that could make it 3-1. We couldn’t score. Just like in 2015 when we couldn’t score when it mattered. You need your stars to step up we haven’t had any in years.

And by the way I blame Hank as well. Could never hold a lead. Got rattled easy gave up leads and almost always was the guy that broke in letting the go ahead goal.
 
I mean I hate to make injuries as an excuse ever in sports, especially for one of my teams. Fact of the matter is that the Kings we're pretty much 100% healthy line up wise with some bang up injuries here or there. We were banged up af. So many guys out, just getting back or piecing themselves together to play. Then McD tried to get Zucc to forget English and gave him a clapper to the back of the head. I'm pretty sure he literally forgot how to speak English for like a month or a week or some shit.

Deck was stacked against us that two weeks. They made a series out of it too. Other than a couple of goals and some bad calls they stayed in that thing. Hell could have been a 2-1 series in our favor with the swing of a couple things.
 
I mean I hate to make injuries as an excuse ever in sports, especially for one of my teams. Fact of the matter is that the Kings we're pretty much 100% healthy line up wise with some bang up injuries here or there. We were banged up af. So many guys out, just getting back or piecing themselves together to play. Then McD tried to get Zucc to forget English and gave him a clapper to the back of the head. I'm pretty sure he literally forgot how to speak English for like a month or a week or some ****.

Deck was stacked against us that two weeks. They made a series out of it too. Other than a couple of goals and some bad calls they stayed in that thing. Hell could have been a 2-1 series in our favor with the swing of a couple things.

Wrong season.

We were pretty healthy through the 2014 run. Girardi had a broken finger or some shit and Stepan had his jaw wired shut but I can't remember anything too serious that was going on with anyone else.
 
We lost that series because we didn’t have guys that could go to another level and win a game in OT for us. Or a guy that could make it 3-1. We couldn’t score. Just like in 2015 when we couldn’t score when it mattered. You need your stars to step up we haven’t had any in years.

And by the way I blame Hank as well. Could never hold a lead. Got rattled easy gave up leads and almost always was the guy that broke in letting the go ahead goal.

Not sure how you can blame Hank in 14 or 15. Gave up some tough goals, sure, but in 2014, Ryan McDonagh was our leading playoff scorer with 17 points in 25 games. Hank had a .927 save percentage.

In 2015, the top-end scoring was a little better, but the depth of scoring was lacking. The guy had a .928.

In those playoff runs (and even in 11-12), goaltending was the least of our problems. The teams arguably only got that far because of him in the first place. You're not going to win if your strategy relies on a goalie to be perfect every game as the offense struggles, half the team is walking wounded, and the defense crumbles.


More on topic, I like the way we're trending. We've talked on here quite a bit about the team lacking vocal leaders. A lot of the guys we're drafting fit that mold. With leadership qualtiies and grit, I'm hoping Andersson turns out a bit like Landeskog. He has the same chip on his shoulder and leadership qualities, but I think he lacks the offensive peak, never mind that he's of course a center. If nothing else, it looks like we'll have a number of good possibilities for bottom-6 roles, and that's key these days when the top-end playes can command a lot more.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rongomania
Wrong season.

We were pretty healthy through the 2014 run. Girardi had a broken finger or some **** and Stepan had his jaw wired shut but I can't remember anything too serious that was going on with anyone else.
I could be wrong about the slapshot but I'm pretty sure we we're quite banged up that series especially compared to the Kings.
 
Zucc got nailed in the head during the first round of 2015.

And compared to 2014, the Rangers were significantly more banged up by the ECF in 2015. Aside from Zucc, all three of McDonagh/Staal/Yandle had lower leg/foot problems.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Rongomania
Zucc got nailed in the head during the first round of 2015.

And compared to 2014, the Rangers were significantly more banged up by the ECF in 2015. Aside from Zucc, all three of McDonagh/Staal/Yandle had lower leg/foot problems.

Girardi was banged up too IIRC.
 
The fact that people forget Hank is the greatest game 7 goalie of all time just makes me speechless.

Team couldn’t score, AV couldn’t adjust and ...

Here we ****ing are.
 
The fact that people forget Hank is the greatest game 7 goalie of all time just makes me speechless.

Team couldn’t score, AV couldn’t adjust and ...

Here we ****ing are.

People always complain about the Rangers not scoring in game 7 of the ECF in 2015 but Lundqvist giving up 12 goals in 2 games earlier in that ECF is just as bad. And some of those were awful goals to give up as well. We should have won that series without a game 7
 
People always complain about the Rangers not scoring in game 7 of the ECF in 2015 but Lundqvist giving up 12 goals in 2 games earlier in that ECF is just as bad. And some of those were awful goals to give up as well. We should have won that series without a game 7

Zucc being out just deflated that offense I think. Blaming Hank for two poor starts is a touch outlandish when they literally scored zero goals in that game 7, which that team owed him for constantly playing out of his mind.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad