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Where does Fox rank in our top prospect list?

2nd or 3rd?

Could we possibly have 4 top prospects in nhl top 20 if we are including Hughes/Kakko too?
 
I'd be cautious on Fox. I really like him as a prospect, but right now I don't think he has significantly higher upside than ADA if at all. He's just ahead of Hajek among our D-prospects for me.
 
coz21 said:
I'd be cautious on Fox. I really like him as a prospect, but right now I don't think he has significantly higher upside than ADA if at all. He's just ahead of Hajek among our D-prospects for me.
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Well have still have ADAs upside as a top pair dman. As do I have Fox (well both closer to #2-3 ceilings). Whether they reach that is a whole different story. I'm still higher on ADA than Fox, but i've been big on ADA since we traded for him and he hasn't disappointed at all yet.
 
Carp's top 11 in the athletic:

1. Kratsov
2. Shesterkin
3. Miller
4. Fox
5. Hajek
6. Lundkvist
7. Lindgren
8. Barron
9. Lindbom
10. Rykov
11. Reunanen
 
frisland said:
Carp's top 11 in the athletic:

1. Kratsov
2. Shesterkin
3. Miller
4. Fox
5. Hajek
6. Lundkvist
7. Lindgren
8. Barron
9. Lindbom
10. Rykov
11. Reunanen
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I would swap out Lindbom with any number of other players, but otherwise that looks pretty reasonable. Lindbom could jump right back into the rankings for me next year, but we need to see the kid play. I don't give credit just for being picked in the second round.
 
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frisland said:
Carp's top 11 in the athletic:

1. Kratsov
2. Shesterkin
3. Miller
4. Fox
5. Hajek
6. Lundkvist
7. Lindgren
8. Barron
9. Lindbom
10. Rykov
11. Reunanen
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Hajek ahead of Lundkvist is a bit of a reach, Lindgren is too high, but other than that I can live with it.
 
frisland said:
Carp's top 11 in the athletic:

1. Kratsov
2. Shesterkin
3. Miller
4. Fox
5. Hajek
6. Lundkvist
7. Lindgren
8. Barron
9. Lindbom
10. Rykov
11. Reunanen
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The top 5 is how I would rank it, and overall it's pretty close to what I'd put down on paper.

I'd probably bump Rykov up 7 or 8, which would slide Barron down to 9, and then I'd round out the top 10 with Keane. And even then, I'd make the argument that he and Barron could be interchangeable in their rankings.
 
Carp mentioned that Lindbom was an Allaire pick. Maybe, just maybe, we owe Benny a benefit of the doubt. The kid was injured this year but still earned a pro contract at 18 going on 19 and will possibly be starting all season in Allsvenskan if he stays healthy. On top of that it is important to consider that Mora just got relegated so they are technically an SHL team that could look to contend for a promotion next season.
 
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TheKingsCourt said:
Carp mentioned that Lindbom was an Allaire pick. Maybe, just maybe, we owe Benny a benefit of the doubt. The kid was injured this year but still earned a pro contract at 18 going on 19 and will possibly be starting all season in Allsvenskan if he stays healthy. On top of that it is important to consider that Mora just got relegated so they are technically an SHL team that could look to contend for a promotion next season.
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Lindbom is a much better prospect than people give him credit for.

But he's going to have to battle being taken in the second as a goalie, and he was hurt this year so people are going to hold that against him as well.
 
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frisland said:
Carp's top 11 in the athletic:
1. Kratsov 2. Shesterkin 3. Miller
4. Fox 5. Hajek 6. Lundkvist
7. Lindgren 8. Barron 9. Lindbom
10. Rykov 11. Reunanen
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i think Rykov may deserve to be higher,
Lindbom getting benefit of doubt due to draft slot

but i also think that after about the top 4, plus maybe Rykov,
its just a semi-qualified guesswork to rank their career forecast
a Day or Keane or Gross could still out-career many of these D guys,
as could a Gettinger or Newell out-career Barron,
Huska could outdo Lindblom (as with Lindbom, Huska got NYR scouts' attention at U18 Worlds)

which is why the depth of the system is so important, they never ALL reach their potential
Having such a deep top 20 means NYR should get a good number of solid NHL pros from this prospect pool
 
Edge said:
Lindbom is a much better prospect than people give him credit for.

But he's going to have to battle being taken in the second as a goalie, and he was hurt this year so people are going to hold that against him as well.
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I don't hold it against him that he was drafted where he was. I hold that against the front office. I want to evaluate him on his own merits.

He was one of the top handful of goalies available, but I don't think it was a particularly strong class for goalies. Looking at his performance--he has turned in some nice efforts in international tournaments which is encouraging, given those are mostly against kids his own age. At the same time, his league performance haven't been great. But what makes it most difficult, is that since 2015-2016 (when he was 15/16), he has only played in 94 games, or less than 25 per season. There's just not a large body of work to evaluate. Given many of the games came in J16, J18, etc., there wasn't even any way to watch.

I think he's a decent prospect and the fact that Sweden continues to choose him for international events is a good sign. And as I mentioned, depending on how he does at Mora and what I see when I watch him, he could shoot up my personal list. But until then, I have a hard time putting such an unknown quantity in my top ten above some other really nice prospects that I've seen and know. Lindbom doesn't even really have many scouting reports out there to read. Also, I'm on record with not being impressed by the "Allaire loves him!" thing, but I don't want to go down that rabbit hole again.

I hope he works out as a prospect. He seems to have potential. I need to see more before I can place him highly in a pretty deep prospect pool.
 
Rangers really to draft some forwards this year, beside our 2OA. The top ten only have 2 forwards, and the forwards down in Hartford are meh, maybe some forwards from previous draft year will emerge
 
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1. Kratsov
2. Shesterkin
3. Fox
4. Miller
5. Hajek
6. Lundkvist
7. Rykov
8. Lindgren
9. Barron
10. Cousin Vinni, Gettinger or Crawley I guess. At this point, lesser talent.
 
BLOCKERSAVE said:
Rangers really to draft some forwards this year, beside our 2OA. The top ten only have 2 forwards, and the forwards down in Hartford are meh, maybe some forwards from previous draft year will emerge
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Well, three of the forwards graduated (Chytil, Andersson, and Howden) and basically none of the defense did. DeAngelo was the only one to move beyond prospect status. Pionk as well, but I don't think man are as high on him as they were a year ago.

If we're looking at forwards, this draft is ideal to snag two in the first round. Obviously Kakko/Hughes with #2 and whoever with the Jets pick. If Dallas can get the next two, maybe even nab a 3rd forward from this bunch, but I'm sure they'll add another D to the pool if we get a 3rd first round pick.
 
BLOCKERSAVE said:
Rangers really to draft some forwards this year, beside our 2OA. The top ten only have 2 forwards, and the forwards down in Hartford are meh, maybe some forwards from previous draft year will emerge
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4 early forward picks in 2017-2019: Lias, Chytil, Kravtsov and Kakko. Drafted Butcher before that. Acquired Zibanejad, Howden, Lemieux and Strome. That's a lot of young top-9 forwards. Need at least one more RD, hopefully with size.
 
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BLOCKERSAVE said:
Rangers really to draft some forwards this year, beside our 2OA. The top ten only have 2 forwards, and the forwards down in Hartford are meh, maybe some forwards from previous draft year will emerge
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not disagreeing with that draft approach but to be fair there are more good young forwards already in ny that aren't on the list...I realize they don't qualify as prospects anymore but when looking at the future of the rangers, if you add chytil, howden, lias, buch, deangelo etc to the mix, the forward depth looks much better
 
Last year NYR drafted 6D, 3F, 1G
Gotta hope for ~6F this year, pack that column of the pipeline
 
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Chytil has a match in the Carlson Cup, starting shortly.

EDIT: He's the 4C with Jiri Sekac and some dude named Hynek Zohorna.
 
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