Prospect Info: Rangers Prospect Thread (Player Stats/Info in Post #1; Updated 5.12.20)

[Leetch3]

Not yet. Signings of NCAA players seems frozen given the situation.

Barron was just named one of the three finalists for ECAA player of the year.

Abruzzese, Barron, Marotte Named Finalists for Player of the Year

rangers announced the K'Andre Miller signing today so nothing is frozen

 

[cwede]

Not yet. Signings of NCAA players seems frozen given the situation

rangers announced the K'Andre Miller signing today so nothing is frozen

Not nit picking, but there is one limitation in place with season suspension, as per some of the things i've seen (maybe LeBrun?)

Contract can be signed for beginning next year, but not ones which might 'burn' an ELC deal this season.

IF Barron wanted to play hardball, he could wait out the pause, and when games resumed, try to negotiate a deal including this year
But not sure if it matters if season resumes with regular season games, or playoffs

Did Kreider burn a contract season when he joined NYR during playoffs right after Frozen Four?

 

[Leetch3]

Not nit picking, but there is one limitation in place with season suspension, as per some of the things i've seen (maybe LeBrun?)

Contract can be signed for beginning next year, but not ones which might 'burn' an ELC deal this season.

IF Barron wanted to play hardball, he could wait out the pause, and when games resumed, try to negotiate a deal including this year
But not sure if it matters if season resumes with regular season games, or playoffs

Did Kreider burn a contract season when he joined NYR during playoffs right after Frozen Four?

the rangers aren't burning a year. barron has no leverage to force that.

 

[cwede]

the rangers aren't burning a year. barron has no leverage to force that.

Right, probably not, so he could sign any time.
I was just using him to illustrate the one limitation, during the 'pause', affecting signing of draftees or UFAs

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Not nit picking, but there is one limitation in place with season suspension, as per some of the things i've seen (maybe LeBrun?)

Contract can be signed for beginning next year, but not ones which might 'burn' an ELC deal this season.

IF Barron wanted to play hardball, he could wait out the pause, and when games resumed, try to negotiate a deal including this year
But not sure if it matters if season resumes with regular season games, or playoffs

Did Kreider burn a contract season when he joined NYR during playoffs right after Frozen Four?

Kreider's situation was different.

1. This was under the old CBA
2. We were in the play offs
3. Kreider was NHL ready

 

[cwede]

Kreider's situation was different.
1. This was under the old CBA
2. We were in the play offs
3. Kreider was NHL ready

Thanks, but my CBA question remains: if a player's pro and NHL debut is at NHL playoffs, does that consume a contract year?

Obviously Barron cant force his way into the lineup,

Haggerty just skated at NHL practices for a couple months after he negotiated to consume his first contract year rather than ATO w Pack(Whale?)

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Thanks, but my CBA question remains: if a player's pro and NHL debut is at NHL playoffs, does that consume a contract year?

Obviously Barron cant force his way into the lineup,

Haggerty just skated at NHL practices for a couple months after he negotiated to consume his first contract year rather than ATO w Pack(Whale?)

That depends. Under the old CBA, 1 play off game meant the ELC counts.

Under the current CBA, it's 11 games regardless of it being reg season or play offs, but only for slide-eligible contracts. Barron is 21, so his ELC won't be slide eligible anyway. So if they would sign Barron, and decide to have it start today, that would make him RFA in 2022.

 

[cwede]

I thought NYR had his rights until August...

 

[LaffyTaffy]

I thought NYR had his rights until August...

Yeah that makes no sense at all. Im not surprised and im happy for him but i dont think this can happen til Aug 15th

 

[eco's bones]

I thought NYR had his rights until August...

Probably no longer any interest from the Rangers side of things. We drafted him--he spent a year in the USHL--then got red-shirted at Ohio St.--then lost another year transferring to Minnesota U. He's a smallish RD who has turned into a good college player for a good college program but there's nothing really all that special here. I wasn't expecting the Rangers to sign him honestly.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Yeah that makes no sense at all. Im not surprised and im happy for him but i dont think this can happen til Aug 15th

It's an AHL deal. Those aren't affected by NHL rights

 

[nyr2k2]

Probably no longer any interest from the Rangers side of things. We drafted him--he spent a year in the USHL--then got red-shirted at Ohio St.--then lost another year transferring to Minnesota U. He's a smallish RD who has turned into a good college player for a good college program but there's nothing really all that special here. I wasn't expecting the Rangers to sign him honestly.

Agreed, but it wasn't really a redshirt--he had myocarditis and couldn't play. It almost ended his career. He wasn't given a medical exemption by the shitty NCAA and had to sit out when he transferred.

Anyway, he was a long shot for a contract. Good luck to him.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Agreed, but it wasn't really a redshirt--he had myocarditis and couldn't play. It almost ended his career. He wasn't given a medical exemption by the shitty NCAA and had to sit out when he transferred.

Anyway, he was a long shot for a contract. Good luck to him.

Would have been fun to see Nanne and Lettieri play together, just so we could have a "my cousin Vinni" reference

 

[Raspewtin]

 

[Irishguy42]

My king, Owen.

 

[cozandeffect]

My king, Owen.

Galajda was robbed

 

[Irishguy42]

Galajda was robbed

Agreed, and in more GP.

But still...I stan my king.

 

[Ranger Ric]

Morgan Barron one of ten Hobey Baker finalists.

https://www.uscho.com/2020/03/18/te...ey-baker-award-as-college-hockeys-top-player/

 

[cwede]

Back to Tyler Nanne for a moment.

The article attached to his agent's tweet this week (Neil Sheehy re deal w AHL Hershey for '20-21) indicated NYR lost their rights when he didnt sign in '19

Many of us presumed that, having completed his NCAA career last week, NYR retained his rights until Aug 15, this summer

Just noticed, at Cap Friendly, it indicates NYR rights until August 2021
New York Rangers Reserve List - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Anyone have insight to add here?
Thank you

Added note- maybe because he only played 3 seasons of NCAA hockey so far? So before signing pro deal, he had a grad school season eligibility?
Reserve List FAQ - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Back to Tyler Nanne for a moment.

The article attached to his agent's tweet this week (Neil Sheehy re deal w AHL Hershey for '20-21) indicated NYR lost their rights when he didnt sign in '19

Many of us presumed that, having completed his NCAA career last week, NYR retained his rights until Aug 15, this summer

Just noticed, at Cap Friendly, it indicates NYR rights until August 2021
New York Rangers Reserve List - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Anyone have insight to add here?
Thank you

I present to you Exhibit A:

CBA article 8.6(c)(i) on page 18 explains that a player who is either in college when drafted or joins college within a year of being drafted will have his rights retained until he graduates. Nanne joined Ohio state within 12 months of being drafted, and Nanne was in college this season still, so his rights should still be retained until August 15th unless the Rangers opted to give up his rights (unlikely unless they were up against the reserve limit).

But Nanne signed an AHL deal which is possible. AHL deals aren't affected by exclusive NHL rights.

 

[cwede]

I present to you Exhibit A:

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CBA article 8.6(c)(i) on page 18 explains that a player who is either in college when drafted or joins college within a year of being drafted will have his rights retained until he graduates. Nanne joined Ohio state within 12 months of being drafted, and Nanne was in college this season still, so his rights should still be retained until August 15th unless the Rangers opted to give up his rights (unlikely unless they were up against the reserve limit).

But Nanne signed an AHL deal which is possible. AHL deals aren't affected by exclusive NHL rights.

Thanks i get all that,
so maybe Cap Friendly is wrong, or a step behind

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Thanks i get all that,
so maybe Cap Friendly is wrong, or a step behind

- Tyler Nanne was drafted by NYR in 2014
- Tyler Nanne started college in 2015
- Tyler Nanne's exclusive NHL rights expire the year he graduates
- Tyler Nanne graduated in 2020
- NYR retain his exclusive NHL rights until Aug 15th 2020
- Hershey Bears signed him to an AHL deal

Signing an AHL deal has nothing to do with exclusive NHL rights. It's no different from a player signing a contract in Sweden or Finland

Capfriendly will probably update it soon to Aug 15th 2020

 

[nyr2k2]

Why would Capfriendly be wrong? What I said perfectly aligns with what they have on their website.

- Tyler Nanne was drafted by NYR in 2014
- Tyler Nanne started college in 2015
- Tyler Nanne's exclusive NHL rights expire the year he graduates
- Tyler Nanne graduated in 2020
- NYR retain his exclusive NHL rights until Aug 15th 2020
- Capfriendly lists his rights until Aug 15th 2020
- Hershey Bears signed him to an AHL deal

Signing an AHL deal has nothing to do with exclusive NHL rights. It's no different from a player signing a contract in Sweden or Finland

It's different because the AHL teams are affiliated with the NHL teams. I can't recall a prospect whose rights were retained by one club signing with the AHL affiliate of another club. It's a weird situation and it's not like signing with an unaffiliated European club at all. If this happened in a few months I'd think nothing of it, but the timing makes it really unusual.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It's different because the AHL teams are affiliated with the NHL teams. I can't recall a prospect whose rights were retained by one club signing with the AHL affiliate of another club. It's a weird situation and it's not like signing with an unaffiliated European club at all.

It has happened before. I can't name one off the top of my head right now, but it's not that uncommon

 

[nyr2k2]

It has happened before. I can't name one off the top of my head right now, but it's not that uncommon

It really is uncommon and I'd love for you to come up with some examples. I literally cannot think of one involving this franchise in the decades I have been a fan until now.