Really hope the rangers don't trade Lundkvist before he gets a chance with the big club. He could be another Adam Fox for us.
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Really hope the rangers don't trade Lundkvist before he gets a chance with the big club. He could be another Adam Fox for us.
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There's no reason at all to trade Lundkvist, unless a team severely overpays.
For those that don't math. 2 standard deviations, either way is 95% of the data. 2 standard deviations above is 97.5th percentile. So yeah he's good.
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The First All-Prospects Team
The most outstanding seasons by prospects (accounting for their age, position, and league).
"D Nils Lundkvist: SHL (Luleå HF/New York Rangers)*
Lundkvist didn’t just have the best year of any D prospect, he had one of the better years by any player outside the NHL. He’s in a completely different echelon as a prospect today than he did a year ago at this time. His 31 points in 45 games shattered the SHL’s under-20 D scoring record set by Tim Erixon (and Victor Hedman before him). His 42 points 57 games across all competition (he posted 11 points in 12 Champions Hockey League games) combined to lead Luleå in scoring. Wedged in between, he helped Sweden to a bronze medal at the world juniors with eight points in seven games, good for third in the tournament in points by a defenceman. He averaged more than 20 minutes a night as a teenaged defenceman on the best team in the world’s third-best pro league. And he got better as the season progressed, scoring in each of his last four games. All four were from the exact same spot, with half wind-ups, as he begins to get more aggressive and attack off the offensive zone blue line:"
*Denotes the forward, defenceman and goaltender of the year.
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Most Valuable Prospect (MVP)
The most valuable prospect to his team during the 2019-20 season (accounting for linemates and opponents).
"Ballot: F Morgan Barron: NCAA (Cornell University/New York Rangers)
Cornell was the No. 1 team in college hockey this year. They were 18-2-2 in ECAC play and 5-0-2 out of conference. They closed the season atop the national polls on a nine-game win streak. From the outside looking in, though, that might surprise people. They weren’t one of the older teams in college hockey, normally an indicator of success. In fact, they were one of the younger teams in Division I and ranked 50th with an average age just over 21. They didn’t have any of the big-name prospects or a single first- or second-round pick. But they had good goaltending, they played within themselves, and they had Barron, the would-be ECAC Player of the Year and one of the best forwards in the country. From the outside looking in, his numbers don’t pop either. He led the team in scoring with 32 points in 29 games but that 1.10 points per game rate only ranked 21st in the NCAA. But you didn’t have to look far when watching Cornell to understand just how important Barron was to their Cinderella season, whether that was through his role as captain or with his on-ice play at both ends. He did everything for the Big Red."
Wheeler's 2020 NHL Prospect Awards: Alexis Lafreniere leads...
The most outstanding seasons by prospects (accounting for their age, position, and league).
"D Nils Lundkvist: SHL (Luleå HF/New York Rangers)*
Lundkvist didn’t just have the best year of any D prospect, he had one of the better years by any player outside the NHL. He’s in a completely different echelon as a prospect today than he did a year ago at this time. His 31 points in 45 games shattered the SHL’s under-20 D scoring record set by Tim Erixon (and Victor Hedman before him). His 42 points 57 games across all competition (he posted 11 points in 12 Champions Hockey League games) combined to lead Luleå in scoring. Wedged in between, he helped Sweden to a bronze medal at the world juniors with eight points in seven games, good for third in the tournament in points by a defenceman. He averaged more than 20 minutes a night as a teenaged defenceman on the best team in the world’s third-best pro league. And he got better as the season progressed, scoring in each of his last four games. All four were from the exact same spot, with half wind-ups, as he begins to get more aggressive and attack off the offensive zone blue line:"
*Denotes the forward, defenceman and goaltender of the year.
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Most Valuable Prospect (MVP)
The most valuable prospect to his team during the 2019-20 season (accounting for linemates and opponents).
"Ballot: F Morgan Barron: NCAA (Cornell University/New York Rangers)
Cornell was the No. 1 team in college hockey this year. They were 18-2-2 in ECAC play and 5-0-2 out of conference. They closed the season atop the national polls on a nine-game win streak. From the outside looking in, though, that might surprise people. They weren’t one of the older teams in college hockey, normally an indicator of success. In fact, they were one of the younger teams in Division I and ranked 50th with an average age just over 21. They didn’t have any of the big-name prospects or a single first- or second-round pick. But they had good goaltending, they played within themselves, and they had Barron, the would-be ECAC Player of the Year and one of the best forwards in the country. From the outside looking in, his numbers don’t pop either. He led the team in scoring with 32 points in 29 games but that 1.10 points per game rate only ranked 21st in the NCAA. But you didn’t have to look far when watching Cornell to understand just how important Barron was to their Cinderella season, whether that was through his role as captain or with his on-ice play at both ends. He did everything for the Big Red."
Wheeler's 2020 NHL Prospect Awards: Alexis Lafreniere leads...
In case anyone is keeping tabs ok Joey Keane he was listed in the Most Improved Group:
Keane was one of those players who always had athleticism going for him. He was always one of the fastest skaters on the ice and one of the more physical presences. But questions lingered about whether he had enough puck skill to continue to produce at the pro level. He holds his stick weird, he’s got a bit of a hunch to his stride that can scare off evaluators and he didn’t look natural in traffic as a handler. Then, as a 20-year-old rookie at the pro level, his play removed many of those questions and he finished second among all rookie defencemen in the AHL with 37 points in 59 games, behind only 24-year-old Brogan Rafferty and ahead of two other top prospects in Evan Bouchard and Chase Priskie. I saw Keane make a lot of plays this year and though he was never going to fall behind in terms of foot speed, he never looked out of place in terms of pace of play and decision-making either.
Keane is a good prospect and he will play in this league.
still move him for Gauthier 10 times out of 10.
still move him for Gauthier 10 times out of 10.
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Perfect trade for both all parties involved. Both players get a better shot at reaching the NHL, both teams address a need while giving up from a position of strength
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Pleased but not surprised by Lundkvist's season evaluation and the rise in prospects ranks but a bit surprised by Most valuable prospect to his team honors (out of all prospects!!!) for Barron. Is he such a good prospect from those outside views or it was more to say that Cornell's roster was individually pretty unimpressive (relatively)?
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To be clear, he was on the ballot, a finalist, essentially. Lafreniere won the actual MVP thing. Other finalists were Tuomisto, Wolf, and Swayman
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Yeah I think that's fair. It's a good college team but the only players close to his level were a 25 year old defenseman and a goalie. He's easily the most talented guy on that roster.
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Gauthier's got a lot of work still to do IMO but that was a good deal for us. I really don't foresee him as a top 6 forward for us but he has a chance to be a 3rd line wing that contributes--great size, good physical game, excellent skater though he needs to get a bit stronger on his skates (should come in a season or two), very good hands. All the elements are there for becoming a quality 3rd line player and IMO you need size and physical play with some scoring ability coming out of your bottom 6 to go four rounds in the playoffs so IMO that's a very good addition.
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I think given his age and a number of different skills he flashed (with more regularity as he was getting more comfortable) makes you hope that there’s a bit more there. Interestingly that not a few posts before Barron was mentioned. Morgan is probably about a year behind in his development but I just love more young bloods with talent so close. Kravtsov including .
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A bit more than a 3rd liner? I think we also have to look at who we have in our top 6 and who is more likely to be in the top 6 in the relative near future. Panarin-Zibanejad-Kreider-Buchnevich-Kakko---probably Chytil who is a lot further along than Gauthier and at a younger age. Kravtsov is another who hopefully will end up one day in our top 6 and we're not even talking about Strome who may be re-signed or moved. So now we're already talking about 8 guys ahead of Gauthier. Gauthier played pretty well in limited ice time for us but he wasn't really doing anything more than Brendan Lemieux--so no I'm not seeing him as a top 6 forward for us in the future---maybe if he moves onto another team he'll get a shot in somebody's top 6 but here he'll probably have to outperform players who are more skilled than he is.
Once you have competition for jobs and playing time, that’s when a team really gets better.
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Apologies for not being clear. I meant more than a 3rd liner in terms of performance / value than where he’d be pegged in the Rangers lineup. Having little drop from 1st to 2nd to 3rd line type of depth is a key to continuous and ultimate success that can withstand injuries, puck luck etc.
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Coaches voted Nico Gross the 2nd best defensive player in the ohl East
That’s a good thing , sign him up
That’s a good thing , sign him up
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He skates well and is physical. He has a good shot. He takes bad, untimely penalties. I don't think he'll be much of an offensive player at the next level.
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Yep. Kind of tools-but-no-toolbox-y. Also I remember he dished out some dumb, dangerous hits. I was happy they let him go. Not a bad player but in the “Seventh D” revolving-door mode.
To be fair they need more defensive minded players. I dont know how strong Nico’s defensive game is but with Fox and DeAngelo around, even Trouba to an extent, they could use some balance.
But sign Gross anyway and get him to Hartford. He has played a ton of hockey and on “big stages” due to his nationality.
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