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Ola said:
Let me guess, he stood planted at the left side and fired two one time slapper a and on both occasions someone scored on the rebounds? :)
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1st assist (primary at ES) was a quick pass to Korpikoski down low, who moved in and backhanded it in the net
2nd assist (secondary on the PP) was a pass from the point
 
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rangers1314 said:
Would a AG trade increase those odds?
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I kind of take it as a given that a goalie is moving and a spot is opening, so it probably wouldn't impact the odds I give it. Based on the chatter we're seeing out there, I'm going to assume it's Georgiev.

But I can see where the mindset of a clearer path to the NHL, knowing that someone at the NHL was already moved, and that Lundqvist will retire at some point could be viewed as an added incentive.
 
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Amazing Kreiderman said:
Wall would have to compete with Huska in Hartford. But if a team can offer him a better shot with a shorter path to the NHL, I could see him opting to hit free agency in August and sign elsewhere
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Personally, I'm not really sure it's quite as big of a factor for goalies as it is skaters.

The market for goalie isn't quite as lucrative, both at the pro level, the minor league level, or even as a draft prospect. The path to the NHL tends to more or less go take the same roads, and perfecting one's technique is generally seen as the primary focus and the key to carving out a longer, high-level career then being labeled as a placeholder or journeyman goaltender. So sometimes, going to a team that can provide that level of support is going to win out over vacancies that can be filled almost as quickly as they appeared.

At the end of the day, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but I'm not sure it's quite going to be as big of a driving factor as we might think.
 
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Edge said:
I kind of take it as a given that a goalie is moving and a spot is opening, so it probably wouldn't impact the odds I give it. Based on the chatter we're seeing out there, I'm going to assume it's Georgiev.

But I can see where the mindset of a clearer path to the NHL, knowing that someone at the NHL was already moved, and that Lundqvist will retire at some point could be viewed as an added incentive.
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Thanks. Do you have any insight into the org's feelings about Wall? Do they believe he has a shot?
 
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Edge said:
Personally, I'm not really sure it's quite as big of a factor for goalies as it is skaters.

The market for goalie isn't quite as lucrative, both at the pro level, the minor league level, or even as a draft prospect. The path to the NHL tends to more or less go take the same roads, and perfecting one's technique is generally seen as the primary focus and the key to carving out a longer, high-level career then being labeled as a placeholder or journeyman goaltender. So sometimes, going to a team that can provide that level of support is going to win out over vacancies that can be filled almost as quickly as they appeared.

At the end of the day, it's not out of the realm of possibility, but I'm not sure it's quite going to be as big of a driving factor as we might think.
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I feel like goaltending log jams tend to get cleared up quicker than log jams for other positions too
 
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GeorgeKaplan said:
I feel like goaltending log jams tend to get cleared up quicker than log jams for other positions too
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And the market is a little more frenzied.

If you're a forward, you can still have personal success on a bad team and post numbers that cause people to take a longer look. Additionally, if you get dropped a line or change positions, you can still have plenty of meaningful opportunities to move forward. A center coming out of college into the AHL could have a rough start to his career and find himself dropping down a line, or moving over to the wing. There are several options before being sent down a level.

As a goalie, you're one of two guys at the position and you're either getting starts, or you're a spectator. There's no in-between. Additionally, if your team is a tire fire, it's very easy to stand on your head and still get overlooked. A rough start can result in them signing a veteran free agent, or giving your competition the lion's share of starts. So it's a little dicier.

To your point, vacancies tend to come and go at a faster rate. A team that looks like it has a clear path today, could sign a guy or two over the summer to hedge their bets. Likewise, because of the unpredictability of the position, and the inability to move a goalie around in the lineup, teams can be a little more fickle on their approach --- especially if it involves the idea of leaving a clear path to the NHL for a goalie that's likely going to need 1 or 2 years before they might be ready to make the jump.
 
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GeorgeKaplan said:
I feel like goaltending log jams tend to get cleared up quicker than log jams for other positions too
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Yes. And goalies, by the nature of their position, are easier for teams to trade when blocked. Teams generally aren’t as worried about a goalie they move coming back to bite them, than say, a scoring forward.
 
Another aspect for Wall is that look at the list of recent goalies that have made it even while being blocked by Lundqvist. Talbot, Raanta, and now Georgiev. So the pitch should be pretty straight forward, the Rangers have continued to pump out NHL goalies. And even if you are currently blocked, at some point if your force yourself into the conversation you will get your chance in the NHL, even if it isn't necessarily with the Rangers.
 
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rangers1314 said:
Would a AG trade increase those odds?
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I really cant see all of Hank , Igor, and Alex on our org next year. One of them has to give by the end of the summer. With that, it leaves the two AHL spots firmly in Huskas and Walls hands.

Beyond this year, if both Igor and Alex are really as good as we think, it won't be long till one of them is on the move, too. We just can't carry them both long term. That then becomes a spot for Wall, in ~2 years time.

If Wall is willing, and wants to reamain somewhat 'local' in Hartford, I'd say the odds are 2-to-1 in our favor he signs. I don't really see any team out there that desperate for goaltending they are going to grant an NHL spot to a somewhat off-the-radar goaltending prospect, that would give Wall that opportunity to skip the AHL.
 
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