Confirmed with Link: Rangers Name Alain Vigneault Head Coach

[Boruto]

What team is gonna win a stanley cup when their starting goalie allows almost 3 goals or more?

reference: Hawks Bruins game 1

 

[Pip]

What team is gonna win a stanley cup when their starting goalie allows almost 3 goals or more?

shhh Luongo can do no wrong

 

[Boruto]

shhh Luongo can do no wrong

Typical Vancouver Homer

 

[iFan]

I know AV don't have a cup, but when ur goalies give up 23!!! Goals in a playoff series (21 by your #1 goalie) what can u expect other than a loss?

Well there's a lot to talk about with the scf... For one our team was brutally injured this is the biggest reason why we lost. AV is a solid coach and he has faults, like sitting back and trying to protect the lead, I hate this and it has cost us a lot. Our goalies have never been the problem, Luongo was the reason why AV won coach of the year that year, Luongo was a beast that season.

Anyways AV would be a great coach for you guys! I think the make up of your team and that AV likes more defensive style teams, 2 scoring lines, shut down line and a checking line seems to be the team style AV likes. AV is also a great coach for developing young players just look at our roster who came in under him... Schneider, Kesler, Burrows, Raymond, Hansen, Hodgson, Edler, Bieksa, Tanev and he wasn't shy to throw Corrado out there, if their ready and don't cost the team defensively he's fine with them, if their not ready then he won't play them much. I think AV is a perfect fit for the Rangers and you guys will like him, he can be pretty funny in interviews.

 

[maroon 6]

To get back on topic, AV is a good coach and I think hes a good fit for NYR. He likes to sit back on leads (not completely sit back but tighten up defensively) and defend which I think will work well with Lundqvist, who is much more stable after allowing a goal than any Canucks goali,e and NYR's D.

Contrary to popular belief, AV is good with young players. Sedins, Kesler, Bieksa, Edler, Schneider, Tanev, Raymond are some of the players that flourished or were brought in under AV.

AV is also liked by the Canucks players. Only time I think he messed up was with the Hodgson situation but that's it. Kesler also had a couple words for him but Kesler is known to have an huge ego and attitude. Bieksa, Schneider, Burrows, Sedins etc all like AV and joke about him in a friendly way in countless interviews. I don't think the same can be said for Tortorella.

 

[Boruto]

This sitting back on leads thing is somewhat interesting because we have been collapsing for years and our defense certainly knows how to collapse and protect leads in tight situations. We don't get many 2-goal leads either so in terms of overall lead protecting, we do that too.

 

[Boruto]

To get back on topic, AV is a good coach and I think hes a good fit for NYR. He likes to sit back on leads (not completely sit back but tighten up defensively) and defend which I think will work well with Lundqvist, who is much more stable after allowing a goal than any Canucks goali,e and NYR's D.

Contrary to popular belief, AV is good with young players. Sedins, Kesler, Bieksa, Edler, Schneider, Tanev, Raymond are some of the players that flourished or were brought in under AV.

AV is also liked by the Canucks players. Only time I think he messed up was with the Hodgson situation but that's it. Kesler also had a couple words for him but Kesler is known to have an huge ego and attitude. Bieksa, Schneider, Burrows, Sedins etc all like AV and joke about him in a friendly way in countless interviews. I don't think the same can be said for Tortorella.

I was always under the impression Tortorella grabbed ice cream with the players after wins.

When we lose, players aren't allowed to get two flavors on a single waffle cone.

 

[maroon 6]

What team is gonna win a stanley cup when their starting goalie allows almost 3 goals or more?

shhh Luongo can do no wrong

Typical Vancouver Homer

What team is going to win a series when they score almost one game a goal?

I'm not saying Luongo should get no blame, but our offence should deffs be getting more blame than Luongo. Luongo won us 3 games ( 2 ga's in one and 0 ga's in the other 2). How many games did our offence win? Maybe game 2 where they scored 3 goals that one time!

 

[Boruto]

What team is going to win a series when they score almost one game a goal?

I'm not saying Luongo should get no blame, but our offence should deffs be getting more blame than Luongo. Luongo won us 3 games ( 2 ga's in one and 0 ga's in the other 2). How many games did our offence win? Maybe game 2 where they scored 3 goals that one time!

Why did you quote me? I was the most sarcastic one, you homer.

I really hope you guys get Torts for the comedic effect. being a Vancouverite who has been victimized for years due to the events of June 14th 1994, I would enjoy lawling at Torts' system perhaps bringing down the team

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

What team is going to win a series when they score almost one game a goal?

I'm not saying Luongo should get no blame, but our offence should deffs be getting more blame than Luongo. Luongo won us 3 games ( 2 ga's in one and 0 ga's in the other 2). How many games did our offence win? Maybe game 2 where they scored 3 goals that one time!

Yes the offense didn't score but again the games they lost Luongo game up 8!, 3, 5 and 4. That's simply awful and no offense will overcome that sorry

 

[Pip]

Typical Vancouver Homer

 

[maroon 6]

This sitting back on leads thing is somewhat interesting because we have been collapsing for years and our defense certainly knows how to collapse and protect leads in tight situations. We don't get many 2-goal leads either so in terms of overall lead protecting, we do that too.

It's kinda hard to explain... It's not a complete trap system but just more D than O haha me

I think it'll work for you guys because Lundqvist is much more mentally stable than Luongo and Schneider... He can bounce back after a goal (especially a bad one) which I think is the biggest flaws with our goalies.

 

[maroon 6]

Yes the offense didn't score but again the games they lost Luongo game up 8!, 3, 5 and 4. That's simply awful and no offense will overcome that sorry

Scoring 5 is not that rare (Bruins scored 4 twice).

 

[maroon 6]

Why did you quote me? I was the most sarcastic one, you homer.

I really hope you guys get Torts for the comedic effect. being a Vancouverite who has been victimized for years due to the events of June 14th 1994, I would enjoy lawling at Torts' system perhaps bringing down the team

How exactly am I a homer? I'm criticizing the Nucks offense like no tomorrow, admitting that Luongo was part of the reason of the Nucks collapse against Bruins (but not the biggest), complimenting your team, and complimenting a coach that no longer coaches my team. But...


Sorry I'm working a night shift with 3 hours of sleep right now so not the best with sarcasm

 

[Boruto]

How exactly am I a homer? I'm criticizing the Nucks offense like no tomorrow, admitting that Luongo was part of the reason of the Nucks collapse against Bruins (but not the biggest), complimenting your team, and complimenting a coach that no longer coaches my team. But...


Sorry I'm working a night shift with 3 hours of sleep right now so not the best with sarcasm

No worries, get some sleep, homer.
I just enjoy calling all Canucks fans homers

You are not a homer. Well, you might be but I can't tell.

 

[Boruto]

Let's steer back toward AV, coaching, and NYR.
I hear from my Canucks friend that AV isn't a very good series strategist.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Let's steer back toward AV, coaching, and NYR.
I hear from my Canucks friend that AV isn't a very good series strategist.

PRO - MODERN STRATEGIC THINKING:

Alain Vigneault's deployment patterns - from his disciplined massaging of matchups to his innovative use of "zone matching" - are massive positives that he brings to the table as the Canucks' head coach. Beyond that, his in-house tracking of micro-stats and, more importantly, his use of that data to inform deployment decisions, give him a big edge over at least half of the other head coaches in the league.

Alain Vigneault is an innovative bench boss and a modern strategic thinker and ultimately that's been at the heart of my defense of his record in the past. Over the past several months we've begun to suspect that some of these innovations originate with Vancouver's management team rather than with Vigneault himself, but that's sort of besides the point.

What matters is that Alain Vigneault is willing to "experiment" with his roster and put into practice some of the Canucks' progressive ideas. In doing so he's managed to crank out wins and deploy his roster so that they're at or near the top of the league in terms of the possession nubers and the standings year after year.

http://canucksarmy.com/2013/3/11/the-pros-and-cons-of-alain-vigneault

Sounds like a fairly innovative strategist to me.

 

[maroon 6]

I know AV don't have a cup, but when ur goalies give up 23!!! Goals in a playoff series (21 by your #1 goalie) what can u expect other than a loss?

Most of the time other factors do play a hand in it but let's be real Lu couldn't stop a beach ball that series against Boston

The games he lost weren't even close iirc. Something like 8-1, 5-2, 4-0

What team is gonna win a stanley cup when their starting goalie allows almost 3 goals or more?

Thomas let in 19 goals the series prior to the finals... just 1 less than Luongo.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Thomas let in 19 goals the series prior to the finals... just 1 less than Luongo.

And he had a shutout in game 7.

 

[Zil]

I don't care about whether it was the offense or Luongo's fault more in the 2011 finals. I care what he can do for the Rangers. Will he put together a functioning powerplay? Will they actually attack? Will guys like McDonagh, Moore, and maybe even Del Zotto bloom offensively under him? What will he be able to get out of kids like Kreider, Lindberg, Hrivik, Thomas, Fast, etc?

 

[Barnaby]

I'm happy with AV. I just wish he could bring Bieksa and Burrows with him!

 

[Punxrocknyc19*]

I'm happy with AV. I just wish he could bring Bieksa and Burrows with him!

id love Kesler.. Kesler gets hurt from time to time but when healthy is a solid center..


id love Keith Ballard for this reason alone. maybe AV is a big fan of his.

 

[Pip]

id love Kesler.. Kesler gets hurt from time to time but when healthy is a solid center..


id love Keith Ballard for this reason alone. maybe AV is a big fan of his.
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He chose to play Cam Barker over Keith Ballard on more than one occasion, so probably not

To be fair, Ballard is terrible

 

[Canucks5551]

And he had a shutout in game 7.

If that absolves him, why don't Luongo's critical shutouts in games 1 and 5? If the Bruins' offence doesn't clean up his mess from earlier in the series, then Thomas doesn't even get the chance to pitch a shutout in game 7.

Anyways, I think AV is a good coach, who should be able to do well in new York. He tends to coach a strong defensive system, with an ability to switch things up if need be, like we saw in 09-10 and 10-11. He also seemed to be well-liked by his players, scuffles with Hodgson, Mitchell, and Kesler aside.

However, like with all coaches, he has his flaws. He has a maddening tendency to pick a couple grinders to fixate on and give inordinate ice time to (see: Aaron Rome and Byron Ritchie, among others, who inexplicably got PP time at the expense of much more suitable players). Although not all players got the treatment, many young offensive players didn't seem to gain his trust. He also never really demonstrated an ability to switch up strategies in game or in season, aside from defaulting to tightening up defensively when faced with adversity, only tinkering in the offseason. It definitely cost the Canucks in series where things obviously weren't working strategically. He definitely isn't averse to putting his lines through a blender when things aren't working, though. I also wasn't a fan of the handling of ice time and pairings for defencemen during his tenure with the Canucks, although I have a suspicion that was Rick Bowness' doing because I didn't have the same issue with his handling of the forwards.

If the Rangers get him, I'd imagine you guys will be relatively pleased with the hire, warts and all. Good luck.

 

[Vitto79]

AV was the logical choice so i'm happy. Messier would of been a crazy idea right now, team needs to get over the top. If they rebuild then Messier is a good option.

It will be an interesting off season. Different coaching style, likely a bold trade in the mix somewhere