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Rangers Let Go of Head Athletic Trainer Jim Ramsay

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The Gloaming said:
Trouba was nursing something early on in the season. Fox after the ASG looked like a different player. Lindgren was rushed back early for no reason. Kreider had something. Players not sitting for meaningless regular season games when they're injured is so dumb.
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That is I. The coach to sit them not the trainer. If the trainer says they have an injury and the coach plays them Who is to blame. Gallant could see they are hurt. If the fans saw it then am the coaches saw it as well.

TopShelfSnipes said:
Mostly agree with this. However, it seems a lot of fans (and I'm saying this broadly) are confusing Rammer's role. He's the head athletic trainer - there is a separate Strength & Conditioning coach who specifically addresses off-ice workouts and training regimens with the players. If there are organizational issues with that, none of it should have fallen on Rammer's shoulders.
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Exactly He was there for injuries not to train them. He is athletic trainer not person trainer.
 
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SA16 said:
Has anyone considered that Jim Ramsay was likely paid significantly above league average for his role since he held the same job for 29 years? They probably assume they can get the same performance from someone for a much lower cost. It wouldn't at all surprise me if they hire his replacement for much cheaper and then spend the extra money they saved on an upgrade for Ciaccio.
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Yes our cap woes are solved we can now sign tank and Kane. Seriously if they fired him cause of money then I don’t know because it’s not like him being fired saves us any cap space. Just saves Dolan money
 
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Modest Grouse said:
By what measure has he been "one of the best in business"? Because Sam and Joe say so?

Look, Ramsay's been with the organization for 3 decades so clearly previous regimes were at the very least satisfied with his work, but I don't know how you can classify this move as 'stupid' when you have no idea what went into the decision to dismiss him.
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I don't think there's a definitive measure.

The dude worked for Team Canada at like 3 Olympics and 2 or 3 WC. I've also heard good things in a lot of different team's broadcasts on him, to the extent that you can when he's on the ice.

You're right, it can't be classified as "stupid." Though for NYR and TOR fans, stupid mgmt. has been a fairly safe assumption based on decades of stupid.

I'm still scarred from the designer jeans ads the players did in the 70s :scared:

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BBKers said:
So.... the old catfish bait trap worked by Pizza Man. Leak the wrong info and see where it winds up. I have shamefully used it too. Oh well...
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There you go kids, like I said before something happened under the surface. We all knew Drury wants the org sealed up except for what HE puts out there through avenues, bbkers is plugged in. If Drury played/tested Ramsey and he failed that would explain it. And it could just be that he did it to use Ramsey as an example (older and replaceable) to others to keep their mouths shut.
 
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BBKers said:
So.... the old catfish bait trap worked by Pizza Man. Leak the wrong info and see where it winds up. I have shamefully used it too. Oh well...
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Explain it to me like I'm 5 years old? Are you saying Drury gave Ramsay some wrong material to see if it would get out into the wild, and it did? What was the wrong info? I don't recall.
 
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Drury sucks. He is single handily bringing this team back to the dark ages. Let’s sign some more overpriced overaged veterans that have no intention of working hard for a cup. He is Dolans puppet that’s why he was hired and is still here
 
bubba5 said:
Drury sucks. He is single handily bringing this team back to the dark ages. Let’s sign some more overpriced overaged veterans that have no intention of working hard for a cup. He is Dolans puppet that’s why he was hired and is still here
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What overaged overpriced veterans has Drury signed?
 
will1066 said:
Explain it to me like I'm 5 years old? Are you saying Drury gave Ramsay some wrong material to see if it would get out into the wild, and it did? What was the wrong info? I don't recall.
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Yeah, it's just like that Scorsese blockbuster movie The Departed when Leo DiCaprio was undercover working for the mob and he told Mark Wahlberg to feed bad info to his detectives to flush out Matt Damon who was secretly working as Jack Nicholsons inside guy for the Boston Police. You know, that old chestnut.


I do wonder what it was that he fed Ramsey and who Ramsey leaked it to. Larry's been kind of quiet on the firing so that's probably a good bet.
 
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bubba5 said:
Drury sucks. He is single handily bringing this team back to the dark ages. Let’s sign some more overpriced overaged veterans that have no intention of working hard for a cup. He is Dolans puppet that’s why he was hired and is still here
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Read this 6 times.
Trying to understand what actual happenings this refers to.
And what the motivation would be.
Will try again.
 
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Synergy27 said:
I think it’s likely that Landeskog’s career is over. If Nuke is also out, they may get desperate for scoring help. And yes, wishful thinking from me trying to pawn Panarin off, but who knows how he’s valued around the league. Players like him are “never available” remember.
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Kords said:
Yeah, it's just like that Scorsese blockbuster movie The Departed when Leo DiCaprio was undercover working for the mob and he told Mark Wahlberg to feed bad info to his detectives to flush out Matt Damon who was secretly working as Jack Nicholsons inside guy for the Boston Police. You know, that old chestnut.


I do wonder what it was that he fed Ramsey and who Ramsey leaked it to. Larry's been kind of quiet on the firing so that's probably a good bet.
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It was not LB. Someone else with NYR background
 
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Rangers need skaters and guys who process the game quickly with their feet moving.

Not bangers (would be nice to have both ), not more one-dimensional skilled guys. Not the usual big names. Maybe not even players we are that familiar with.

And not just fast players who have straight-away speed like Kreider. Thats the lazy scouting I would expect.

They need players who can skate really well with quickness in traffic and tight spaces and get to the net. Players who transition well, have good edgework and combine that with a decent set of hands. Its all over the TV in these playoffs.

The good thing is those types of players arent that expensive. You just have to be willingly able to identify them. This is the NHL and there are a lot of them out there. Find a way to move on from Goodrow and get a couple more guys in who can f***ing skate and pressure the puck in all zones, but actually are a step ahead instead of behind.

With players like Kakko, Laffy & Othmann, etc who are skilled but arent the greatest skaters they need to make this a priority to round out the roster moving forward.
 
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bubba5 said:
Drury sucks. He is single handily bringing this team back to the dark ages. Let’s sign some more overpriced overaged veterans that have no intention of working hard for a cup. He is Dolans puppet that’s why he was hired and is still here
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This thesis can't really be analyzed until the draft picks that him and Lilles made start playing as pros.
 
Roo Returns said:
This thesis can't really be analyzed until the draft picks that him and Lilles made start playing as pros.
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Which thesis?

That Drury sucks? Nah, that's fair imo. Nemeth signing, Buch trade, there is enough.

That he single-handedly brought the team back to the dark ages? Yeah, that's rather unlikely.

That he's Dolan's puppet? Idk.
 
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NYRFANMANI said:
Which thesis?

That Drury sucks? Nah, that's fair imo. Nemeth signing, Buch trade, there is enough.

That he single-handedly brought the team back to the dark ages? Yeah, that's rather unlikely.

That he's Dolan's puppet? Idk.
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He's has some bad moves as you mentioned. But he has resources and assets to turn it around. This is even with making it to the ECF in his first year as GM.

His draft choices really haven't even turned pro yet.
 
bleedblue94 said:
He also quoted the posts about the AVS and panarin in the same reply which on the surface has nothing to do with the other post he quoted. Do the math ha
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Where was that? I checked that original tweet from him and didn't see anything there. Was it deleted?
 
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