Confirmed with Link: Rangers hire Gallant as HC

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If he just played his role, that'd be fine.

I still think Howden will be a good/great bottom6 hockey player. It's all determined on when he finally matures physically. Normally you're on the way, already at 23 but he's a 'late bloomer'. I know it may look bad now but it's there.

I agree. He could become a solid role player, if he's not asked to do normal regular hockey things.
 
So is anyone else a bit confused about how Drury says the playoffs are not a mandate but Gallant is saying the rebuild is over?
 
I agree. He could become a solid role player, if he's not asked to do normal regular hockey things.
We won't be able to pay everybody 3 + million on the roster . We still will need some cheap contracts . Howden will sink or swim if he is still around for training camp. It would be a great time for him to add some beef over the Summer .
 
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The freedom to fail? How many employers out there would say to their employees—‘Hey, don’t worry, it’s okay, you can f*** up all you want.’

Great companies create a psychologically safe environment where you are not punished for taking smart risks and failing at times. When employees are afraid to fail they are less productive, innovative and engaged.
 
So is anyone else a bit confused about how Drury says the playoffs are not a mandate but Gallant is saying the rebuild is over?
We are in the “develop” phase now. The foundation has been established. A minor trade or two will for sure happen but the significant pieces upon which this team will succeed (or not) are already here.
 
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Lol cause you were perfect and didn’t make any mistakes in your employment of any job? Lol give me a break

A bit touchy I see.

Look you want to put players (particularly younger ones) in situations where they can succeed—not fail. That’s called confidence building. You certainly don’t leave a younger player in situations where he’s not succeeding at all. That’s not confidence building.
 
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Great companies create a psychologically safe environment where you are not punished for taking smart risks and failing at times. When employees are afraid to fail they are less productive, innovative and engaged.

No doubt. The point I’m making is if someone is not ready for a thing or banging his/her head against the wall you don’t leave them to fail.
 
I like how we're talking about structure and being hard to play against but then we're talking about youth and offense.

I don't get nervous when I hear about grit. I get nervous when I only hear about grit.

We have other areas covered. 1C and 2C. Check. Elite youth. Check. Panarin. Check. Fox and Lindgren. Check. Miller and Trouba. Check. Goaltending. Check.

We need to address grit.
 
We have other areas covered. 1C and 2C. Check. Elite youth. Check. Panarin. Check. Fox and Lindgren. Check. Miller and Trouba. Check. Goaltending. Check.

We need to address grit.
This post cries out for more Howden
 
There was one huge problem I had with the old regime. And this was definitely Gorton because Gorton always did it, but Quinn went right along with it.

You're either a skill player or a grit player, and Gorton/Quinn would put the Berlin Wall in between them. All of the grit we acquired was slow and bad because grit = not talent. Kakko got good at defense so instead of him being an effective even strength forward who compliments the stars, that makes him a 4th liner now. Fast was hard-nosed and good defensively, but he put up too many points for the 4th line, so get rid of him. Chytil looks lost all the time. Why? Because he could probably be an effective cycler with a little bit of skill. Not f***ing here!

Meanwhile, Kreider, Panarin, and Zibanejad, all high-effort, versatile players, all became floaters all of a sudden. Lafreniere was touted for his elite compete-level. Did we see it? Nah, too busy doing skill. One or the other, kid.

This isn't like the NFL or MLB where you have offense time and then defense time. Offense, defense, speed, skill, and grit all melt together, and a line of three guys has to do all of those.

What we were doing leads to two scoring lines that can't do anything against tight defense, and two grind lines that can't do anything, period.

That's why I hate this idea that Morgan Barron is gonna be this great 4th liner for us long-term. No, Barron has the skill AND the other stuff to be a Coleman, Goodrow, Stephenson, Lehkonen, Hyman, Rust, etc.-type player for us. And then that pushes a skill guy down a line. That's how depth happens.
 
We have other areas covered. 1C and 2C. Check. Elite youth. Check. Panarin. Check. Fox and Lindgren. Check. Miller and Trouba. Check. Goaltending. Check.

We need to address grit.
We need to address it with speed and versatility, not by doing the old Gorton move of gluing some goober with 3 goals onto the lineup and keeping the top 9 exactly the same.

Said it before, Coleman is the guy that stands out to me. He's basically what people thought David Clarkson was when Clarkson shot 13%.
 
We need to address it with speed and versatility, not by doing the old Gorton move of gluing some goober with 3 goals onto the lineup and keeping the top 9 exactly the same.

Said it before, Coleman is the guy that stands out to me. He's basically what people thought David Clarkson was when Clarkson shot 13%.
Gallant needs to squeeze grit out of players like Strome, Zibanejad, and the rest of the star forwards. I think honestly he can get them to play with more sandpaper, absorb a hit to make a play, battle harder along the walls, venture into the slot without hesitation. That's been my stance all along. Grit combined with skill. This formula is very apparent coming out of this year's tourney.
 
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We have other areas covered. 1C and 2C. Check. Elite youth. Check. Panarin. Check. Fox and Lindgren. Check. Miller and Trouba. Check. Goaltending. Check.

We need to address grit.
Do we? I believe Mika can be our #1C, but Strome as a 2nd line center? Is he really that? I'm almost tempted to call him a winger who just happens to play the center role nominally. He's not good at faceoffs, he's not good defensively. When he's glued to Panarin, those two go out and the 2nd winger in that line is supposed to cover for them. Is that how it should go? Hell no, considering what our winger depth is. I mean that's the reason why Colin Blackwell and Jesper Fast, 3rd or 4th line wingers got their time with Strome and Panarin. They were just expected to cover for those two guys defensively.

Strome should be gone. Pair him with Buchnevich, we have pretty good assets to get ourselves a REAL 2nd line center.
 
Gallant needs to squeeze grit out of players like Strome, Zibanejad, and the rest of the star forwards. I think honestly he can get them to play with more sandpaper, absorb a hit to make a play, venture into the slot without hesitation. That's been my stance all along. Grit combined with skill. This formula is very apparent coming out of this year's tourney.
He will from Zibanejad, Panarin, and Kreider. Especially Kreider. No, I don't think he's going to turn Kreider into a 40 goal scorer or Bob Probert, but I think we're gonna get the corsi god back. I say that because those players have done it before.

Strome always thought he Wayne Gretzky so good luck with that one.
 
He will from Zibanejad, Panarin, and Kreider. Especially Kreider. No, I don't think he's going to turn Kreider into a 40 goal scorer or Bob Probert, but I think we're gonna get the corsi god back. I say that because those players have done it before.

Strome always thought he Wayne Gretzky so good luck with that one.
Gallant speaks of "getting with the program". I'm confident he's already getting to work on mapping out roles for each and everyone who's going to be on the opening night roster at this juncture. Strome will likely find himself needing to adapt his game to this type of coach. I think Strome's comments in particular were telling about the stars' coach-player dynamic with Quinn. The Gallant dynamic won't be the same.
 
Do we? I believe Mika can be our #1C, but Strome as a 2nd line center? Is he really that? I'm almost tempted to call him a winger who just happens to play the center role nominally. He's not good at faceoffs, he's not good defensively. When he's glued to Panarin, those two go out and the 2nd winger in that line is supposed to cover for them. Is that how it should go? Hell no, considering what our winger depth is. I mean that's the reason why Colin Blackwell and Jesper Fast, 3rd or 4th line wingers got their time with Strome and Panarin. They were just expected to cover for those two guys defensively.

Strome should be gone. Pair him with Buchnevich, we have pretty good assets to get ourselves a REAL 2nd line center.
I hear you. But until this happens, Gallant needs to make do with what he's got.
 
Gallant speaks of "getting with the program". I'm confident he's already getting to work on mapping out roles for each and everyone who's going to be on the opening night roster at this juncture. Strome will likely find himself needing to adapt his game to this type of coach. I think Strome's comments in particular were telling about the stars' coach-player dynamic with Quinn.
I'm skeptical of what Strome has the ability to adapt to. He's 27 and hasn't been in his defensive zone in the NHL yet. At some point, coaches aren't magicians. If anyone ends up being the odd-man out, I think it's him.

Especially if Gallant actually plays Chytil which is probably a solid idea. He was top 50 in the league in even strength scoring this year and we're all sitting here like "wow, I wish we had another center!"
 

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