Confirmed with Link: Rangers claim Arthur Kaliyev from LA
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Tob
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Sometimes you fall into a sewer and find a gold watch. Most times though, you drown.
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How many times have you fallen into sewers Bobbop? You really need to start watching where you’re walking.
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Doyle's the one I think that had problems with the law----just looked it up because I thought it was a rape charge. When he was 19 he got into an altercation with a 21 year old girl---broke her nose and she had lacerations on her face and he smashed up a computer. After that his career kind of hit the skids.
To go further with the story. That happened in 2009 and in 2010 he was before a judge. Turns out Doyle had gone to an ex girlfriend's house and he was drunk and he had an argument with her and smashed her laptop. Apparently his ex-gf had a friend with her and as Doyle left the apartment he slammed the door and the friend was in the doorway and got the door in her face and that's where the broken nose comes in. So in court Doyle pleaded guilty to a destruction of property for the laptop and the judge struck down the assault charge though he did call Doyle as asshole.
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kovazub94
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There’d been a large cohort of Rangers fans who’d tell you that when the team traded Anderson to LAK that he got screwed by the Rangers organization.
Hey guys, coming in peace
Little background on Kaliyev
was hurt this year, was blackballed last year after asking for a trade. He was good-to-excellent in his role, but in typical Kings fashion was dicked around in favor of vets (Kings had to justify their poor investments on PLD and Fiala), and his confidence took a dump, and I'm sure you guys have an idea of what happens to scorers when they're moody/lacking confidence. One of his last shifts with the Kings he fired a one timer wide and promptly broke his stick in frustration. Dude just needs someone to believe and McLellan and Blake were both publicly f***ing assholes to him.
In short--enigmatic/moody/medium-maintenance. Needs to be deployed with responsible-ish players who can carry the puck because you don't want him lugging it anywhere. But better on the boards and great in cycle, one of the only Kings in recent history who can snipe even elite goalies from anywhere, and when he's feeling it he's an absolute weapon on the PP.
I had posted this on our forum the day of:
On a team full of two-way players, you can afford to use a Kaliyev on a line as such, where they were utterly dominant:
You see his numbers turn to shit when he was put with losers like PLD and when buried on the 4th line with 5 minutes per game and one shift per period
But in an effort to get their money's worth on several poor investments, they buried Kaliyev to forcefeed Fiala and PLD, and it's been all downhill since.
And funny enough, their numbers were better with Kaliyev than when force fed Fiala:
Maybe you don't want a sensitive player/personality to manage, or one you can't plug and play (especially if you're f***ing lazy like Koala), but the results were absolutely there when used correctly. Also don't forget around the same time he was in the top 10 in the league in power play productivity rate so it wasn't just 5v5 with Danault/Moore. When he was getting minutes, he was a factor. When he was buried, he wasn't. It's that simple--and sure we can make other observations about his pouting and 'drive' and whatever but the facts are the facts. Just another situation where they made a decision based on poorly-chosen vets over youth in order to justify a dogshit investment return.
I'm big on his upside as you can probably tell. At worst it's a fresh start and a free shot at a project. With some of the offensive talent you have on the PP especially, him being an option rather than THE option is going to open up some opportunities. Wishing him and you well.
...when he's feeling it...
Is disturbing.
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I mean is it possible for the team to give Kaliev the right opportunity and for him to have a wake up call so it works? Yeah, (there are plenty examples of this) but I will keep my reservations until I see it (because there are even more examples of it not working out also)
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Kaliyev has a lot to live up to to surpass Matt Puempel's Rangers waiver claim career
He's going to Europe in all likelihood if he doesnt show anything in NY. I like guys who are motivated and have something to lose coming in. Especially young guys with draft pedigree that come for free.
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Kaliyev is gonna wear #34 for this season. Hopefully until Gabe Perreault makes the Rangers and he'll have to switch his #.
HockeyBasedNYC
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Wow Rangers with a great waiver claim, no risk and good upside. Too bad this is the completely wrong environment for this kid to find his game again. Don't see this working out at all here. Happy to eat crow as always.
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I mean, the Rangers' history with these type of projects is actually really good, so it's odd to see statements to the contrary.
Stralman, Pouliot, Brassard, Strome, uh...Mika Zibanejad?
Stralman, Pouliot, Brassard, Strome, uh...Mika Zibanejad?
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Machinehead
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Bit of a different situation, but he, Hayes, and Pionk were all hits (I know I hated Pionk but it's NHL value).
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We seem to excel with the young players that came from somewhere else.
McRanger92
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Throw Vesey in there as well..600+ NHL games and his next goal will be his 100th for his career.
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I think the difference here is that all those players were NHL regulars when they came here. Reclamation projects like Vinny Prospal or Stralman when they're 27-33 is different than the reclamations we did with Puempel or Lesh- those are situations more like LA taking Lias Andersson from us.
Kaliyev has NHL seasons under his belt but not quite on the 'established' level of those guys.
Still a very good move though since this team is very much in the tinkering phase and we have time to experiment. Puempel we never gave enough time in the top 6 to prove himself even if it would have been a bust.
My anecdotal observation this season (However the perception may be skewed by latent frustration at the results) is that NYR's actual conversion has been poor this season. We've not been 'clinical' as the associaton football folks say. More shooters could help. I'm shocked Vatrano was re-signed instead of dealt for deadline haul. Teams need a good shooter. Some days I think we could get 25 goals out of Brandon Pirri/Greg Carey if we put them on the top PP unit even if they were not NHL level at anything else.
