Confirmed with Link: Rangers buy out Shattenkirk

[NYR Viper]

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That's gross looking

 

[haohmaru]

7.5M in dead space next year. Awful. Be interesting to see if this guy is really "done" or if he rebounds a little next year playing for someone else. Only then will we really know if it was the right move or not.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

CapFriendly is updated now.

After sending down Beleskey and McKegg, the Rangers have $4.318m in cap space.

DeAngelo at 2.25 and Lemieux at 1.5 leaves ~$500k, which is enough to swap Kravtsov into the lineup and/or bank some space.

Guessing both those guys come in a couple hundred thou less than that.

 

[Thirty One]

Trying to think of the best for Shattenkirk and I can't. Think his value is hurt by most teams only using 1 dman on each PP unit.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

That's gross looking

Nah. Not if you view the full page.

 

[will1066]

Turns out Shattenkirk and the Rangers were a better story than they were a fit.

If only he had told management sooner that he was losing 21 pounds before camp started, this story could've been different.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Paying 8 million dollars next year to have defenseman not play for you is hilariously awful

 

[NYR Viper]

Trying to think of the best for Shattenkirk and I can't. Think his value is hurt by most teams only using 1 dman on each PP unit.

Dallas, Edmonton or Colorado.

Dallas has Heiskenen and Klingberg but both play on the top PP. Maybe not this season with the addition of Pavelski.

Edmonton has no one...

Colorado just lost Barrie, a RD but has Makar and Girard as their PP guys.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

7.5M in dead space next year. Awful.

In the abstract, sure. But then you look at it as $16.6MM in space with 14 guys signed (really $15.7MM and 15 with Kravstov promoted) and it looks pretty good.

Be interesting to see if this guy is really "done" or if he rebounds a little next year playing for someone else. Only then will we really know if it was the right move or not.

I hear you, but you can't compare what he might do elsewhere on a fresh start with a new contract to what he might have done here making $6.67MM to play on the 3rd pair, likely with no PP time...

 

[NYR Viper]

Literally, the Rangers could have another top-pairing defenseman or top-line forward on their roster in place of their dead cap space.

 

[17futurecap]

Paying 8 million dollars next year to have defenseman not play for you is hilariously awful

And another 10 for Staal and Smith to play for you.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

If only he had told management sooner that he was losing 21 pounds before camp started, this story could've been different.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

And another 10 for Staal and Smith to play for you.

Love it

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

To all the folks moaning about the dead space for next season, I think there is a bright side. The Rangers, after years of stubbornly dragging their feet, are in the midst of making a transition to a defensive corp that is young, mobile, and dynamic. The dead space is a byproduct of dealing with poor decisions, ones that are showing signs of remaining in the past. And, as luck would have it, just when the Rangers are running out the clock on that hideous dead space next season, we should have a team thats in the early stages of beginning to make some noise around the league.

 

[NYR Viper]

So with that in mind, the plan may be to do their best this year and next year, and then 2021-2022 really kick the door in I guess? I can't envision this team really battling for a Cup with ~$7.5m in dead cap space

 

[Thirty One]

Dallas, Edmonton or Colorado.

Dallas has Heiskenen and Klingberg but both play on the top PP. Maybe not this season with the addition of Pavelski.

Edmonton has no one...

Colorado just lost Barrie, a RD but has Makar and Girard as their PP guys.

I really only watched Dallas in the playoffs (that first round pick ) but they always had either Klingberg or Heiskanen QBing the first unit and the other one QBing the second, with Lindell in the bumper spot on PP2.

Yeah, I think he would struggle to find PP time in Colorado, maybe on the left wall on PP2? They still don't have much forward depth, but that's probably not the ideal spot for him either.

He doesn't appear to want to go to Canada.

 

[duhmetreE]

Literally, the Rangers could have another top-pairing defenseman or top-line forward on their roster in place of their dead cap space.

That's not how it works. I know what you're saying but Girardi or Shattenkirk would be here then, or an equal salary returned in trade. '

This roster, for the most part, is locked in for the next 2 years. We do not need that cap space because of the ELCs.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

To all the folks moaning about the dead space for next season, I think there is a bright side. The Rangers, after years of stubbornly dragging their feet, are in the midst of making a transition to a defensive corp that is young, mobile, and dynamic. The dead space is a byproduct of dealing with poor decisions, ones that are showing signs of remaining in the past. And, as luck would have it, just when the Rangers are running out the clock on that hideous dead space next season, we should have a team thats in the early stages of beginning to make some noise around the league.

Nicely put, BRB. 100% agreed.

 

[offdacrossbar]

he can play an adequate 3rd pair limited role with some PP1 time. hes still a smart offensive player.

hes slowed alot and that doesnt help. defensively he was always competitive but now hell be a step behind due to the wheels

he lost his spot on the right side. that'll happen when you sign jake trouba for 8 yrs and trade for adam fox while already having ADA returning. fox is just the better option right now. if hes not ready, i expect smith to get some minutes.

good move/bad move its done.

its a move predicated on cap relief and cap distribution. hes a casualty of both.

 

[will1066]

Nicely put, BRB. 100% agreed.

Well, I'm not letting the Dead Cappers bring me down.

I think that regardless of who we have bought out, there'd still be complaining about the dead cap space next year.

 

[Pawnee Rangers]

Is it possible that they had a taker for him but he vetoed it because of his NMC?

 

[Tawnos]

Is it possible that they had a taker for him but he vetoed it because of his NMC?

He had to submit a 10 team list, so it's possible that one of the 10 teams was someone who wanted him... but I doubt it.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Maybe those 7.5 in dead cap will prevent us from signing an aging FA come July 1st 2020 ... just saying.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Maybe those 7.5 in dead cap will prevent us from signing an aging FA come July 1st 2020 ... just saying.

Or it gets in the way of trading for a quality player with a bigger contract.

 

[True Blue]

Yes, I know he has the history of playing well with Stamkos and Kucherov, but I think it's a poor bet to try to spin him as an asset that will do that elsewhere. Besides, who else really has that need outside of Edmonton, and they're cap-strapped as it is. IMO, it all boils down to keeping him not being worth whatever mid-round pick we may get for him at the deadline. If we had just kept Shattenkirk and were unable to move him next summer, his buyout becomes much more palatable to manage. Plus, and I'm going to keep harping on this, you most likely don't lose the 2020 2nd to CAR for the Fox condition.

I am not a "keep Nametsnikov" guy. Just trying to read the tea leaves and rationalize the thought process. You may not be willing to make that bet. I believe that Gorton is betting he can get a better return at the TDL for him than right now. So as opposed to buying him out and getting nothing, he is willing to be that he can get an asset later. Unlike Shattenkirk who was essentially untradeable.

I think that the second Gorton traded for Fox AND signed him to his entry level deal, Gorton was betting on Fox playing the right side this year. He would not want to burn a year off his eligibility. It's all a gamble. But there is a plan.

I'm honestly surprised more people aren't upset about losing that pick when there's a pretty high probability that we'll be missing the playoffs again this season. Keeping Shattenkirk would have pretty likely ensured that Fox would have stayed in the AHL for a long enough time period to avoid him reaching the 30 NHL game limit. Besides, a half-season stint in the AHL might be necessary for Fox's development.

That was discussed when the trade went down. I did not like loosing the 2019 pick at a time that I thought Carolina had no leverage. But clearly Gorton was aggressive in getting what he wanted and was willing to include it. And again, I think that all along he had no intention of not playing him this year, barring a complete blow out in camp.