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Who are you again?
The ghost of Rangers-related realism past. Or, in terms people around here would understand, "hater."
Who are you again?
It must be fun to talk yourself into falsehoods. Its probably the same sort of thing that got you think this team would be scoring goals consistently.
Not saying you're wrong, but I always thought the problem with this team was, is, and likely will continue to be that passable = the best possible outcome for this team.
Regardless of the change in style of play, year after year, the story is the same.
2 steps forward, 1 step back with most moves. Trades, free agent signings, coaching changes, etc.
Not one of the vaunted prospects has developed into a stud. Yes, many of them are still young, and many of them are good players. But no studs, despite the respective (and often absurdly out of control) hype machines for each of them. Brassard is the inconsistent, mediocre player he has been for most of his career. For every flash of brilliance, like that pass he made to Moore in Dallas, there are entire games of nothingness. And then you have the Pouliots and the Pyatts. What happened, Brad Isbister wasn't available? Christensen? Marcel Hossa?
No gamebreaking playmaking talent either up front or on the blueline, no secondary scoring, and a sizable population of absolute useless clods polluting the roster. The names on the ice and the names on this board, some of them have changed, but the discussion is virtually the same.
Always amusing . . .
The ghost of Rangers-related realism past. Or, in terms people around here would understand, "hater."
11-12 team after Lundqvist stopped being a God and Biron fell back down to earth from March to April goals allowed minus empty netters in 21 games:
2, 4, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 2, 5, 2, 2, 1, 4, 3, 2, 2, 1, 2, 3, 4, 4.
13-14 team
Minus empty netters. In the last 21 games (this is after what looks like an outlier start, Hank and Biron played worse than anything in that streak in 11-12, so it's unfair to use those 5 games).
0, 4, 2, 2, 2, 2, 0, 1, 2, 1, 2, 3, 3, 0, 1, 2, 2, 0, 5, 2, 3.
Taking into account OT that's about 1.85 GAA for the 13-14 team. Taking OT into account for the 11-12 team that's about 2.73 GAA. That's almost a full goal more. So looks like this team even with a shaky Lundqvist is giving up almost a full goal a game less than that team with a shaky Lundqvist and Biron.
The proper term is negative-nancy. Or, alternatively, Debbie Downer.![]()
I've been accused of being a Devils fan in hiding in the past (could you blame me even if I was?). I wouldn't want to stoke the flames.
By the way, I've noticed a lot of discussion about Lundqvist. Just want to say that nothing amuses me more than those that, season after season, decide that the big problem with this team is the best goaltender of his generation.
I'd say that, as has been the case nearly every season since what seems, at this point, like the dawn of time, that the big problem with this team is lack of goalscoring. The Rangers are 28th in the league in scoring at a measly 2.12 goals per game. Even if you take out that abysmal 8 games that started this season and count simply the 18 since, the Rangers are at 2.38, or what would be good for 23rd. Yes, perhaps more time with the talented (and overrated) Mr. Nash would improve that number, but how much? Once again, no matter how you slice it, the Rangers will be in the bottom half of the league in average goals per game. Good luck with all that.
The ghost of Rangers-related realism past. Or, in terms people around here would understand, "hater."
Please stay.
This has to be my least favorite team next to the 08-09 squad. Last year's was up there too, but this team is just ugly.
I wasn't able to watch the game, but anyway, what type of team are we? Seriously what type of hockey is the team known for? Where's their identity? What was AV supposed to implement?? I don't see jack - not even a freaking glimpse - of the style of play. The only thing I see that stands out about how this team plays is the defensemen pinching in on the boards in the offensive soon. Oooooooooh, big one there. Before a team plays us, what do they think? 'Easy win' before the 'this team's going to smash in our faces with their fists and boards and their going to grind us down' or however a team is coached?
Should've kept Torts. People are a bunch of mentally soft *******.
AV still deserves his fair share, but this is crap. Lundqvist is looking crappy without a defensive coach. It's actually scaring me.
yet they are only winning at the same rate (11-9-1 in 11/12 vs 12-9-0 now) and this years team doesn't have a whole season worth of work to fall back on
Girardi played like crap today?Ul Samuelsson is the defensive coach, and I thing he has done a very good job, all things considered. This team is still a good defensive team, a very good one, at that, and that's with Girardi playing like crap, Hank being more mortal than he has been in quite some time, Staal still recovering from his injury, and having Justin Falk in the lineup. When the players execute, it works brilliantly, but when they don't execute, it's a mess. Staal was all over the place in this game, and not in a good way. Girardi was terrible. When half of your top-4 defense sucks, and your team is mediocre offensively, you're not going to win the game.
I've been accused of being a Devils fan in hiding in the past (could you blame me even if I was?). I wouldn't want to stoke the flames.
By the way, I've noticed a lot of discussion about Lundqvist. Just want to say that nothing amuses me more than those that, season after season, decide that the big problem with this team is the best goaltender of his generation.
I'd say that, as has been the case nearly every season since what seems, at this point, like the dawn of time, the big problem with this team is lack of goalscoring. The Rangers are 28th in the league in scoring at a measly 2.12 goals per game. Even if you take out that abysmal 8 games that started this season and count simply the 18 since, the Rangers are at 2.38, or what would be good for 23rd. Yes, perhaps more time with the talented (and overrated) Mr. Nash would improve that number, but how much? Once again, no matter how you slice it, the Rangers will be in the bottom half of the league in average goals per game. Good luck with all that.
Uh, yeah, he was terrible.
Ul Samuelsson is the defensive coach, and I thing he has done a very good job, all things considered. This team is still a good defensive team, a very good one, at that, and that's with Girardi playing like crap, Hank being more mortal than he has been in quite some time, Staal still recovering from his injury, and having Justin Falk in the lineup. When the players execute, it works brilliantly, but when they don't execute, it's a mess. Staal was all over the place in this game, and not in a good way. Girardi was terrible. When half of your top-4 defense sucks, and your team is mediocre offensively, you're not going to win the game.
Ok then.
I thought he was the best Rangers D defensively.
He laid out to prevent a 2 on 1. He played the body to lay out Bruin as he was ready to shoot. You may be thinking of the bounce? Even on that goal that bounced off him, he was in a good position defensively.
Trade for a goal scorer.
That talent is not in Hartford, and we can't draft it. It will not appear out of thin air.
Disappointing game. Disappointing that this far into the season none of our players are playing for a contract. No-one is going above and beyond.
Maybe time to give Kristo and Lindberg a chance? We haven't seen these players since the preseason, and they're performing pretty well in Hartford. Not like we don't have the room.
I wouldn't be opposed to that. Something needs to be done.
Why hasn't MDZ been traded? I supported his first benching but now it is becoming comical. Either play him or trade him.
Are you kidding me . You must be watching the game with mcdonagh coloured glasses !!
still don't see how the gwg was a soft goal. Give any player with a lethal shot that time and space and they will put that past any goalie. Just because there is no deflection or screen on the play does not automatically qualify it as 100% stoppable.