Post-Game Talk: Rangers @ Blackhawks

[nevesis]

Um a short side goal is pretty well known to be soft.

Shortside definition:

The side of the goal that is nearest to the shooter. The shortside for a shooter depends on which side of the ice he is coming from when approaching the net. If he is coming from the centre of the ice, the shortside depends on whether the shooter is left-handed or right-handed.

****ing Logic. How does that work?

 

[Petey Pucks]

I'm sure he's the only one that plays goal here...

And if anything that makes him more biased than anything. Wouldn't want to blame the goalie.

my thoughts exactly....if I wanted to validate my argument I wouldn't include the fact I played goalie especially with hank as my avatar...it just does the opposite

 

[Inferno]

Here's my thought on it...and take it or leave it, i dont care...

Everyone will agree that even if you are square to the shooter, there are holes the shooter can hit.

I'd like to think everyone would agree that was an incredibly hard shot...the velocity on that was just sick...

So, You just have to ask yourself, is Henrik, or any goalie, good enough to track and react to a puck thats shot at an teenie tiny opening with that kinda velocity.

If you think so, then you think its a soft goal.

if you think not, then you think its a great shot.

Personally, on this one, I choose to credit the shooter more than kill the goalie.

 

[Thirty One]

Here's my thought on it...and take it or leave it, i dont care...

I'm leaving it and you do care.

 

[nevesis]

Here's my thought on it...and take it or leave it, i dont care...

Everyone will agree that even if you are square to the shooter, there are holes the shooter can hit.

I'd like to think everyone would agree that was an incredibly hard shot...the velocity on that was just sick...

So, You just have to ask yourself, is Henrik, or any goalie, good enough to track and react to a puck thats shot at an teenie tiny opening with that kinda velocity.

If you think so, then you think its a soft goal.

if you think not, then you think its a great shot.

Personally, on this one, I choose to credit the shooter more than kill the goalie.

Great post, and to add to your point, no human being has the ability to track a shot of that velocity, from that close distance, therefore anyone who thinks its a soft goal is most likely a cyborg.

 

[Glennsoe]

Zuke with 14 Mins and on the 3rd line...yikes...

Staal and Henke were the stand out's..

 

[Krams]

therefore anyone who thinks its a soft goal is most likely a cyborg.

Yeah most likely

 

[Kwayry]

Pretty cool game to watch. Felt like a playoff game toward the end.
Hank was phenomenal. I thought Staal had his best game in ages.
Cally was pretty good too.
I thought they played a more disciplined D than usual.

Hopefully the win kick starts the team and Hank.

Just to rub it in a little, DZ is on a 3 game point scoring streak.

 

[BroadwayHustle]

Here's my thought on it...and take it or leave it, i dont care...

Everyone will agree that even if you are square to the shooter, there are holes the shooter can hit.

I'd like to think everyone would agree that was an incredibly hard shot...the velocity on that was just sick...

So, You just have to ask yourself, is Henrik, or any goalie, good enough to track and react to a puck thats shot at an teenie tiny opening with that kinda velocity.

If you think so, then you think its a soft goal.

if you think not, then you think its a great shot.

Personally, on this one, I choose to credit the shooter more than kill the goalie.

What you are saying makes perfect sense, but he is giving up a lot more of these goals than past seasons. Obviously there are a lot more defensive breakdowns allowing them, but I dont think its equivalent to just more breakdowns.

 

[noupf]

I never said they're on a roll. You can be happy about 1 ****ing game, jesus. You don't have to be miserable 24/7 and can be happy after one of the most impressive regular season wins in years.

Barely beating the Hawks, when you're 37-32 in shots and are pretty close in play, is a big ****ing deal. Can't even give credit to the team for beating the defending champs and one of the best teams in the league. Makes me ****ing sick.

what makes me ****ing sick, is that they will **** the bed next game. Good for them for squeaking out a win against a team that controlled the game. The difference in skill between these two teams in mind boggling. shots don't tell you **** my friend........ Not sure how you get to the conclusion of the bolded......they snuck in, got out played a good portion of the game and luckily grabbed two points. End of story.

do it against a few more teams ( top teams at that ).........and then we can get all giddy.

 

[anofsti]

I don't know about his Corsi and whatnot, but every time he was on the ice it seemed like Staal was in the middle of something positive for the Rangers. Massive game from him, it'll be huge to this team (be it him staying an elite D on our team or getting a bundle of assets for trading a great defenseman) if he can return to form.

Gogo Marc.

You are right, him, Strålman and Callahan were the only ones with a corsi >5.

http://timeonice.com/shots1314.php?gamenumber=20658


Should be noted that they all got a lot of offensive zone starts though
http://www.timeonice.com/faceoffs1314.php?gamenumber=20658

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I'm sure he's the only one that plays goal here...

And if anything that makes him more biased than anything. Wouldn't want to blame the goalie.

I'm a goalie. I agree with everything Nevesis said, it was a great shot. That being said, it is still a goal Hank should have and usually will have. I think he just wasn't expecting the short side shot like that on a 3 on 2, and the fact that it was a great shot made it even worse.

That being said, I understand why Nevesis is so steadfast in his defense. Everyone here is so quick to blame the goalie that to us goalies, it is extremely frustrating. So his defending of Hank may at times be over justifying goals, I see why he does it. The majority here leans so far the other way that it makes him (and me) want to defend Hank at all times.

Bottom line is Hank usually makes that stop because usually the shot isn't that perfect. And it was a perfect shot, you have to credit Bollig there.

 

[Kwayry]

I'm a goalie. I agree with everything Nevesis said, it was a great shot. That being said, it is still a goal Hank should have and usually will have. I think he just wasn't expecting the short side shot like that on a 3 on 2, and the fact that it was a great shot made it even worse.

That being said, I understand why Nevesis is so steadfast in his defense. Everyone here is so quick to blame the goalie that to us goalies, it is extremely frustrating. So his defending of Hank may at times be over justifying goals, I see why he does it. The majority here leans so far the other way that it makes him (and me) want to defend Hank at all times.

Bottom line is Hank usually makes that stop because usually the shot isn't that perfect. And it was a perfect show, you have to credit Bollig there.

I thought it was a hard shot that found the hole. Seeing eye puck. That puck hits Hank 999 out of 1000 times.

 

[Mikos87]

Go look at the Hawks GDT. They played a fairly decent game and if you go to their board it looks exactly like our board after a piss poor effort where two skaters showed up and we lost by 4 goals.

Because their organizational compete level bleeds into their fanbase. They expect wins. If you listened to Quennville get interviewed by Pierre McGuire, you'd know just how that is ingrained into the organizational culture.

McGuire was asking him about his guys reaction to being down 2-0. Q wasn't concerned. There are things routinized in that organization such that winning is an expectation. The Rangers were building towards that so the fan base could almost taste it, but that is sadly gone.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

what makes me ****ing sick, is that they will **** the bed next game. Good for them for squeaking out a win against a team that controlled the game. The difference in skill between these two teams in mind boggling. shots don't tell you **** my friend........ Not sure how you get to the conclusion of the bolded......they snuck in, got out played a good portion of the game and luckily grabbed two points. End of story.

do it against a few more teams ( top teams at that ).........and then we can get all giddy.

Seriously? Hawks didn't control the play at all. Rangers played pretty well defensively overall and Hank made some big saves. The Hawks are going to get chances, they get chances against every team. We kept them to less chances than I normal, I'd say. They're easily a top 2 team in the league, we went in their barn and not only won, but outshot them. That's a team performance.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Rangers forwards were really good in the 1st and 3rd periods.

Staal and McD were fantastic all game, but the rest of the D was meh. Even that, we played a very good game against a good team.

I can't believe Zuke was shafted like he was, and he still scored a ****ing goal.

 

[nevesis]

I'm a goalie. I agree with everything Nevesis said, it was a great shot. That being said, it is still a goal Hank should have and usually will have. I think he just wasn't expecting the short side shot like that on a 3 on 2, and the fact that it was a great shot made it even worse.

That being said, I understand why Nevesis is so steadfast in his defense. Everyone here is so quick to blame the goalie that to us goalies, it is extremely frustrating. So his defending of Hank may at times be over justifying goals, I see why he does it. The majority here leans so far the other way that it makes him (and me) want to defend Hank at all times.

Bottom line is Hank usually makes that stop because usually the shot isn't that perfect. And it was a perfect show, you have to credit Bollig there.

Great post.

 

[Raspewtin]

Was I pessimistic coming into this game? Hell yeah I was.

Eating delicious crow. Even though the 2nd period was awful, I'm extremely impressed with this gutsy win. Way to go, boys.

 

[TweetyLeaf]

You guys baffle me. I'm unsure now about this: Do you hate Lundqvist or Carcillo more ?

Does Brashear have any chance to win the trophy?

 

[JayMan82]

You guys baffle me. I'm unsure now about this: Do you hate Lundqvist or Carcillo more ?

Does Brashear have any chance to win the trophy?

Welcome to the Rangers board... Bashing Hank since 2005!

I'll admit, I get on my blame Hank fits as well...

 

[Callagraves]

To those wondering why Zucc has been playing fewer and fewer minutes, It's because his line is behind the Richards and Stepan lines. Nash is getting time no matter what, and is picking his game up. Cally's been great since coming back, and has been getting a ton of defensive work done.

There's only so much time you can give a right winger on this team. Zucc's been able to produce in spite of it.

 

[TheTakedown]

Also Cally had a very good game. He seemed a little gassed near the end, but that's to be expected.

Hopefully he too can get back to form.

exactly my thoughts. Guy was so noticable, and made so many little plays happen. Did alot of the little stuff right, and it came up big...

It's games like that where I want to keep him.

 

[RangersFan]

The shot was a good shot guys. It was by no means a "laser" though. It was a solid shot with good velocity. However it is a shot that Hank should have saved.

It did however provide some epic lulz in the GDT.

 

[TheTakedown]

Great team win. Every line played well. Hank had his best game of the season. If he played like this all year we probably would be is better shape BUT teh good news is taht lately he seems back to normal

I will say this, compared to the Flyers-Devils game yesterday, believe it or not, the rangers actually have talent... That Flyers game was an absolute borefest, basically two teams that could hardly move the puck, both hanging on for dear life at some point in the game. Rangers are flawed for sure, but this was ****ing entertaining to watch!

It's been tough getting everyone on the same page with new players, new style of play, new coach, etc, and I've been saying that I want to see where the Rangers stand around Game #60 with this team before deciding to blow it up...

Honestly, if G plays for the next 3 years like he did the last 3 games, he's worth resigning, and 5.5M would be a bargain for him. Same for Cally.

Though I love Richards, his time is up. a 1st line center he is no more
Though I like Brass, he needs to prove himself more or I don't see a need to resign him

Grabovski would be a good grab (no pun intended) for a 1st line center. 3rd line center can be filled in by Miller.

Honestly, I'd like to see how far this team gets with these guys actually producing.

 

[nevesis]

The shot was a good shot guys. It was by no means a "laser" though. It was a solid shot with good velocity. However it is a shot that Hank should have saved.

It did however provide some epic lulz in the GDT.

I called it a laser in the GDT.

Kevin Weeks & Kathryn Tappen both referred to it as "a rocket" on NHL tonight this evening.

Kevin Weeks is a former NHL goaltender, it's nice to know we share the same opinion on this. Feel free to disagree with him as well!