Pre-Game Talk: Rangers at Leafs 7pm Mon, Oct 18th

[JSn0w93]

It's idiots like you who think Holl is good too.

Our management thinks Holl is good as well. Letting a pretty good player in McCann go instead. Holl is not a great defenceman, but he is an NHL caliber one and has a pretty good track record with Muzzin.

 

[stickty111]

K'andre Miller is an actual NHL d man who is much more promising than Liljegren I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

He isn't proven. The same thing you are criticizing about Liljegren. Seems like you have a double standard.

 

[francis246]

He isn't proven. The same thing you are criticizing about Liljegren. Seems like you have a double standard.

he played a full season with the Rangers...

 

[fahad203]

He isn't proven. The same thing you are criticizing about Liljegren. Seems like you have a double standard.

He's very proven and his upside redicicouls
He has a potential to be a Buffy type of D.

 

[Papi 4 Hart]

he played a full season with the Rangers...

56 games 5 goals 8 assists 13 points + 8

14 games 0 goals 2 assists 2 points - 2

I will let people guess which one is Miller and which one is Liljegren

 

[Tarmore]

It's idiots like you who think Holl is good too.

What about those of us that thinks he is an average to just below average defenseman, but a pretty good deal for 2m and can play in the top 4?

Are we idiots too?

 

[NMacrules]

i expect you will be wrong, its a wrist injury not an acl or anything that didnt allow him to continue to skate and keep in shape.

Keeping in shape and game shape are 2 very different things. He will be gassed and Keefe will keep his minutes down out of caution. We will see in a couple hours.

 

[al secord]

What about those of us that thinks he is an average to just below average defenseman, but a pretty good deal for 2m and can play in the top 4?

Are we idiots too?

It's best to consider the source and let it go.

 

[djdev]

Keeping in shape and game shape are 2 very different things. He will be gassed and Keefe will keep his minutes down out of caution. We will see in a couple hours.

i think you are wrong, but yes we certainly will see lol. cheers.

 

[kb]

Dermott gets a lot of unnecessary hate he has been solid and consistent all year. That Sandin Dermott pairing is our best option for bottom pair.

Not if Lily is sitting, IMO.

 

[kb]

K'andre Miller is an actual NHL d man who is much more promising than Liljegren I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

There is absolutely no basis for this statement.

 

[Apex Predator]

hmmm... K'Andre Miller is a better player than Liljegren

and we leafs fans don't?!

Right that’s crazy.

 

[123offtheglass]

Not a fan of Lily coming out, I'm not sure an 11F-7D would work but they need to get him more games...

Upside at least he can use this extra time to prepare for the next one.

 

[Gabriel426]

Holl and Marner running neck and neck for the annual Larry Murphy award

Never change LeaFlanders never change

Well, Larry Murphy really wasn't that good with the Leafs. I think he had his worst seasons playing for the Leafs.

 

[123offtheglass]

On the UP express heading to the game. First one in 5 years. Pumped!! 23 rows up. Damn excited Matthews is back. Go Leafs Go

That's awesome. Definitely a great one to catch with Matthews return, & against a big exciting club like the Rangers.

 

[123offtheglass]

It's idiots like you who think Holl is good too.

What about those of us that thinks he is an average to just below average defenseman, but a pretty good deal for 2m and can play in the top 4?

Are we idiots too?

I actually think Holl is just above average, I wonder where that puts me on the hierarchy of idiocracy

 

[Havoc]

He's very proven and his upside redicicouls
He has a potential to be a Buffy type of D.

Vampire slayers aren't necessary the way the game is played today.

 

[TMLeafer]

GDT is up.