Confirmed with Link: Rangers Acquire Rights to RW Barclay Goodrow; Signs Contract (6 Years, $3.642M AAV)

[Levitate]

I think it's overpaying but also as long as you're not overpaying your entire bottom six you can probably overpay a specialist which is kind of what I see Goodrow as
You can run into issues when you start paying all your 4th liners big deals like the Isles probably will, one guy you can work around if it's not outrageous

 

[bobbop]

Didn't see that Carp said he thinks Coleman would be a target too.

Sorry, are we allowed to discuss that? Is Carp an approved source?

Well I said it a few pages ago so I think we are clear.

 

[cheech70]

If Colemans coming might as well get Yanni

 

[egelband]

If he wears four Stanley Cup rings at once, I don't want him. That would look so tacky.

Three+one though, is WIRED.

 

[Black Aces]

"maybe a year or two longer than it should be"

And

"Maybe $500k-1m too much"

Something we say far too often about contracts we hand out

That is how free agency works.

People here thought Mika was overpaid at 5.3 a few years ago. That has been a huge bargain.

 

[Rangerboy030]

Goodrow is a great pickup and brings exactly what we needed badly in the bottom six.

But everyone on this board will be screaming for his head before this contract expires.

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Everyone wants #toffness guys, @Machinehead doesn't want #toffness guys. So the Rangers get a #toffness guy and everyone is going crazy but @Machinehead . What is going on?

I pre-emptively snuck a percoset into Machinehead's lunch.

 

[Black Aces]

Am I the only one who is fine with this contract? 3.6 mil for a 3rd liner who can play all over the lineup is very good. And who cares about the 6 years? You honestly believe he’s going to play out his entire contract? Come on this is the NHL.

I agree. Its a contract they can get away from if and when needed.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

One other thought for all those saying "the good teams develop their own!" (despite the fact, again, that the TBL went out and acquired them after the fact, but I digress): there's a difference between a random bottom sixer with grit and one that's been battle-tested. The latter only happens if they've actually, you know, been through the battle. And there are a very limited number of those available at any one time.

Something this team needed badly in addition to players who play his style was guys who know what it takes to get to the promised land.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

As to the "if you're already planning to get out of it the day you sign it, it's a bad deal" mantra, that sounds snappy and all, and for a while I believed it too. But the fact of the matter is it's simply not true. In fact, over the last decade what we've learned from the teams that have won it all is that the opposite is the case: you need to be willing to spend to, and above, the cap to get/retain the guys you need and then get clever about making it work.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

5 years / 1 million cmon Drury

Hahahahah

RIP

 

[nyr2k2]

I mean people were pissed off we protected Rooney, who is a good, tough, hardworking, cheap, fourth line center. And they're pissed that we paid the market value for Goodrow.

...and then if we didn't do those things, and whatever other moves we make to address our grit, they'd be pissed off and complain that we were soft and too easy to play against.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

You're taking agent leaks as gospel. Anything leaked is from the player.

You keep mentioning 'reports'.... Who? What team?

Heiskanen got 8M and? is that suppose to mean something for Goodrow? Fast got $2M. which one of these is relevant? You're not even arguing Goodrow's merits.

Show me why a 20pts bottom 6 player is getting $3.6M over 6 years... With a flat cap and depressed market.

He's a great role player. The one we needed. $3.6M for 6 years is absurd.

Again, how do you know that it was just agent leaked stuff. Where you there? Did you tap the phones? I trust Drury to be in the know more than you or I. My point about Heiskanen is that players are being signed to big numbers even in a flat cap. Obviously not a perfect comp but as we get into free agency there will be more signings that surprise people therefore my point is there is a free agent market. If you honestly think that we were the only team that was going to sign Goodrow to a significant contract then I don't know what to tell ya. If you think he was going to sign for 2.5 million by another team then I have a bridge to sell you. Players in FA come at a higher cost when you don't give up picks or prospects.

 

[Flan the incredible]

Except it sounds like Danault is going to be a lot more expensive, not a little. He's probably asking for $5m+ or $6m+.

I would rather have danault at 5 to 6 mill then goodrow at 3.6 mill.

 

[AWall THE CLAW]

He's a damn good player who is probably more valuable to the Rangers than he is to other teams, and they are going to be paying him very close to what he'd get on the open market anyway. Played in basically every team game for the last 3 seasons. Brings playoff experience and a championship pedigree. Can ride him late in games with a lead which the Rangers are currently beyond awful at protecting. No problem whatsoever with this deal. Sometimes you need to spend a little to get the right player.

 

[duhmetreE]

Again, how do you know that it was just agent leaked stuff. Where you there? Did you tap the phones? I trust Drury to be in the know more than you or I. My point about Heiskanen is that players are being signed to big numbers even in a flat cap. Obviously not a perfect comp but as we get into free agency there will be more signings that surprise people therefore my point is there is a free agent market. If you honestly think that we were the only team that was going to sign Goodrow to a significant contract then I don't know what to tell ya. If you think he was going to sign for 2.5 million by another team then I have a bridge to sell you. Players in FA come at a higher cost when you don't give up picks or prospects.

Who would leak it? Where are the reports coming from? Teams that dont have the right to talk to him?

What teams have the liquidity or the cap space?
6 years, fine? But lower AAV.

$3.6M? fine. But shorter term.

Would you have been OK with signing Jesper Fast @ $3.6M for 6 years?

 

[Black Aces]

I would rather have danault at 5 to 6 mill then goodrow at 3.6 mill.

I disagree.

 

[AIexisLafreniereNYR]

He's a damn good player who is probably more valuable to the Rangers than he is to other teams, and they are going to be paying him very close to what he'd get on the open market anyway. Played in basically every team game for the last 3 seasons. Brings playoff experience and a championship pedigree. Can ride him late in games with a lead which the Rangers are currently beyond awful at protecting. No problem whatsoever with this deal. Sometimes you need to spend a little to get the right player.

Shushhh we’re not supposed to bring logic in this thread

 

[SA16]

Did they not produce at the same rate last year?

Have they each only played one season in their career?

 

[duhmetreE]

I mean people were pissed off we protected Rooney, who is a good, tough, hardworking, cheap, fourth line center. And they're pissed that we paid the market value for Goodrow.

...and then if we didn't do those things, and whatever other moves we make to address our grit, they'd be pissed off and complain that we were soft and too easy to play against.

how is that market value? Teams are going bankrupt or against the cap. What team is giving Goodrow $3.6M for 6?

 

[Modest Grouse]

As to the "if you're already planning to get out of it the day you sign it, it's a bad deal" mantra, that sounds snappy and all, and for a while I believed it too. But the fact of the matter is it's simply not true. In fact, over the last decade what we've learned from the teams that have won it all is that the opposite is the case: you need to be willing to spend to, and above, the cap to get/retain the guys you need and then get clever about making it work.

I completely agree. If we continue to draft reasonably well, develop our current crop of prospects and become a real contender for the cup in the next few years then we'll inevitably be trading picks and prospects for cap space in future seasons. I predict epic levels of bellyaching about losing prospect x to dump Kreider's contract or losing a first rounder to get a team to take the last 2 years of Goodrow's contract off our hands if his play declines too quickly or other similar type moves. We are working towards a window during which we can and should be a cup contender. Cleaning up previous contractual missteps and mistakes as a result of being aggressive with player signings against the cap is something contenders need to do to maximize their chances for a cup.

 

[Machinehead]

Goodrow is a great pickup and brings exactly what we needed badly in the bottom six.

But everyone on this board will be screaming for his head before this contract expires.

They're screaming for his head before it got signed lol

 

[Rangerboy030]

They're screaming for his head before it got signed lol

 

[Machinehead]

Once we trade Strome, our total cap hit will be smaller than it was before this offseason started. This is seriously nothing.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Who would leak it? Where are the reports coming from? Teams that dont have the right to talk to him?

What teams have the liquidity or the cap space?
6 years, fine? But lower AAV.

$3.6M? fine. But shorter term.

Would you have been OK with signing Jesper Fast @ $3.6M for 6 years?

I don't know who leaked what. I wasn't involved. I believe he would have been signed to a similar contract elsewhere. Do you think everybody else would have signed him for 2.5 mil and we just signed him for a million more just for shits and giggles? All these GM's watched the playoffs and they all want a player that is hard to play against coming off of back to back cups. Some of them would have opened up the wallets. I don't have the exact breakdown of every NHL teams liquidity or cap space, sorry. I believe as the FA season progresses we will see more signings that will surprise. Fast signing that contract is not the same as Goodrow. Goodrow is the better player, brings more versatility, is nastier, and has 2 cups.