Confirmed with Link: Rangers Acquire Rights to RW Barclay Goodrow; Signs Contract (6 Years, $3.642M AAV)

[Off Sides]

We did not give Lindgren enough term or money

 

[Circus86]

how come we never get bargains

• Monaco, Europe – $5,262.80 per sq ft.
• Hong Kong, Asia – $4,392.81 per sq ft.
• New York, USA – $2,465.57 per sq ft.
• Tokyo, Japan – $2,265.05 per sq ft.
• Geneva, Switzerland – $2,123.16 per sq ft.
• Shanghai, China – $1,934.44 per sq ft.
• London, UK – $1,891.75 per sq ft.

Add the taxes and here we are. And yes, these things do matter.

 

[Mac n Gs]

As I’ve spent some time thinking about it, I’ve realized that I’m just indifferent towards it. It’s an overpayment, but its maneuverability will be determined by its financial structure.

As a player, he’s inarguably a really good defensive forward and has some skill to go with it. If they were going to go for grit, I’d rather it be for someone like this than a plug like Khaira or Reaves. I think he’ll provide some short-term value to the team for years 1-3, but I do worry how his play will translate in years 4-6. I’m also expecting the mood to shift a lot around here once he’s actually playing for us.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

It’s basically the same deal that Carp was saying

it’s a million dollars less but an extra year

4.5m or 3.6m is a ~25% difference.

 

[Irishguy42]

It could also be lower.

League minimum is also in range, if you widen it out a bit...

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Hopefully the term is in dog years.

LOL

 

[Sayba]

• Monaco, Europe – $5,262.80 per sq ft.
• Hong Kong, Asia – $4,392.81 per sq ft.
• New York, USA – $2,465.57 per sq ft.
• Tokyo, Japan – $2,265.05 per sq ft.
• Geneva, Switzerland – $2,123.16 per sq ft.
• Shanghai, China – $1,934.44 per sq ft.
• London, UK – $1,891.75 per sq ft.

Add the taxes and here we are. And yes, these things do matter.

Pre or post covid?

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

4.5m or 3.6m is a ~25% difference.

But the overall money is basically the same.

Carp said 4.5 for 5 years, which is 22.5. He’s going to get 3.6 for 6 which is 21.6

 

[nyr2k2]

4.5m or 3.6m is a ~25% difference.

Well, he said 5 years at 4.5 which is a total value of 22.5; instead it was 6 at 3.6 (we think) which is 21.6 in total value. A difference of less than a million in total dollars. Of course how it's spread around isn't insignificant, but I think it's fair to say that Carpiniello isn't the buffoon some suggested after his "guess."

EDIT: I see @Oscar Lindberg beat me to it.

 

[haveandare]

It’s too much, but what he’ll be here is tbd so far. Could be a disaster, could be fine. I’m not going to lose my mind about it with so many question marks on the team. We’ll see how all the changes pan out together and they’ll float or sink based on that imo.

One thing to note in his favor when people point to his stats is his toi during both cup runs. He played a lot, and on a deep, deep lineup.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

By what team?

If the alleged deal is true, he got the AAV of a short term deal... but with 6 years. It doesn't matter what 'reports' were. His agent deserves a medal.

We outbid ourselves. Why was Fast only worth $2M?

How do you know that? Do you have sources or are you just guessing? There was info coming from several sources that said there was plenty of interest and he was going to get 6 years and a considerable AAV regardless if it was us. This is why we gave up a 7th rounder to have exclusive bargaining rights with the player. There must have been some validity to those reports unless you are just smarter than GM's like Drury. There is still a market out there for players even in a flat cap era. Hell, Danault is looking for a long term contract for 6 or 6.5 million. Is he worth it? Heiskanen was just signed to a 8.5mil/8 yr contract. He's a very good player but he didn't get a single Norris vote this year. There is still a market and if you feel that Drury bid against himself why don't you call up Dolan and offer your services.

 

[Synergy27]

Lots of wear on these tires. I’d prefer a younger, cheaper version of this player but I have no idea who that guy is. 6 years is a long time.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Well, he said 5 years at 4.5 which is a total value of 22.5; instead it was 6 at 3.6 (we think) which is 21.6 in total value. A difference of less than a million in total dollars. Of course how it's spread around isn't insignificant, but I think it's fair to say that Carpiniello isn't the buffoon some suggested after his "guess."

EDIT: I see @Oscar Lindberg beat me to it.

I honestly prefer 3.6m for 6 to 4.5m for 5.

That one extra year doesn't hurt you, especially if you front-load the contract. I think this team has worse contracts to worry about, mainly Kreider's.

But the overall money is basically the same.

Carp said 4.5 for 5 years, which is 22.5. He’s going to get 3.6 for 6 which is 21.6

As fans the actual money is irrelevant. It's all about cap hit.

 

[gravey9]

I'm of two minds.

I hear what everyone is saying about the term and AAV. The criticism is accurate. It's not great to hand out these contracts when we still don't know the cost of the core nor have we established who the core is.

It could easily backfire. People criticized Vancouver rightly for handing out these sorts of deals to guys like Beagle. Are we ready to be handing out these deals to complimentary pieces yet? All great questions that need to be answered.

On the other hand:

a) we don't know what other trades are coming this off-season. We don't know what the roster will look like come September/October. We need to understand the totality of the plan and how much the rebuild is getting accelerated. I would really hope we're not trying to open the contention too quickly if it means mortgaging a good chunk of the youth and rebuild. that would be a huge bummer. and deeply troubling and upsetting as a fan who was sold a real rebuild this time. That said, if the trades coming are smart and not ripping up the young core

b) This team badly needs their version of Staal, Girardi and Callahan or even a Dom Moore/Brian Boyle. We lack several players who bring a more sturdy mental and physical approach to the game. Not only to compete against actual playoff caliber teams but also to help the youth develop the right mentality. After Lundkvist, Kravtsov and Jones, the next wave of youth are almost entirely about bringing a grittier approach. Cuylle, Barron, Robertson, Schneider, Berard. I would argue that those kids will benefit hugely from having a Goodrow or two around. This isn't like bringing in Bobby Holik or Keane and Skrudland who were brought in at a time when the organization to shoulder the entire load when it came to grit and dirty work. During those times, the org didn't have young players like that coming up through the system. We do now and bringing in a guy like Goodrow and possibly a D like McNabb (or similar) can help us build the proper foundation.

c) It's generally not a terrible move when the Rangers identify a player they need, one that fits with a larger plan and go after them. This was the reasoning behind the Trouba deal. And one could make the argument that deal was a mistake. But I think we saw what Trouba brought when we lost him to injury end of last season. The Troubas and Goodrows of the world are great when properly slotted and have a role carved out. That is now Gallant's charge.

d) For every Clarkson deal that goes terribly, there are plenty of deals like this that work out. The real trick will be what the deal looks like in years 4-6. Can they get out of it if they need to? Is the deal cheap enough in those years that we can buy it out or traded it to a cap floor team? Generally, if the cap hit is considerably higher than the real money in the final years of a deal the contract becomes more movable.

 

[bigdog16]

perhaps you should take another look at the production

Perhaps you should

Danault:
Regular season 53 GP - 5 G 19 A - 24 PTS
Playoffs 22 GP - 1 G 3 A - 4 PTS
Total 75 GP - 6 G 22 A - 28 PTS - .373 PPG

Goodrow:
Regular season 55 GP - 6 G 14 A - 20 PTS
Playoffs 18 GP - 2 G 4 A - 6 PTS
Total 73 GP - 8 G 20 A - 28 PTS .383 PPG

So if you want to get technical Goodrow actually produced more than him last season. Take away the names and there is zero chance you could convince me that Player 1 should get payed $5.5m and Player 2 should get payed $3.5m

 

[Unusual Suspect]

Saving all my angst for:
a) any Eichel deal at all
b) throwing Buchnevich away for much less than his worth
c) spending another year watching Chytil hog the puck like he's still back home playing against teens
d) Kreider's next 20 game AWOL
e) Zibanejad's next 20 game actual lineup absence.

I'm very cool with the Goodrow thing. Only so much spleen to get through a season with.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

Perhaps you should

Danault:
Regular season 53 GP - 5 G 19 A - 24 PTS
Playoffs 22 GP - 1 G 3 A - 4 PTS
Total 75 GP - 6 G 22 A - 28 PTS - .373 PPG

Goodrow:
Regular season 55 GP - 6 G 14 A - 20 PTS
Playoffs 18 GP - 2 G 4 A - 6 PTS
Total 73 GP - 8 G 20 A - 28 PTS .383 PPG

So if you want to get technical Goodrow actually produced more than him last season. Take away the names and there is zero chance you could convince me that Player 1 should get payed $5.5m and Player 2 should get payed $3.5m

To your point I think Danault is going to get more than the 5.5mil, more like 6 or 6.5.

 

[Lone Ranger]

I'm pleased with this signing. A slight overpayment IMHO, but that's nearly always the case when you're diving into the free agent pool.

 

[leetch99]

5th and 6th years won't sting that badly if he is wearing two more Cup rings by then .

 

[Hire Sather]

I mean, reports say in the "range" of 3.6

If it comes in close to 4, we're going to be really mad.. but maybe it backs up to 3.2 or something

 

[Kendo]

Under $4 is fine. Just fine. Five years would line up MUCH better, but at $3.6, I don't mind the 6th year as much.

CK - MZ - PB
AP - RS - BG
AL - FC - KK
MB - KR - CB/JG
(Even though "the kid line" didn't work out that great last season, you can still pencil it in on paper for roster construction purposes and adjust on ice.)

JG/CB claimed
VK in AHL

Without changing anything else, we are slightly improved.

If SEA by chance takes Goodrow and seal a deal we wouldn't have, then we get to keep Gauthier, and Blackwell, and still have Kravtsov on deck. I don't mind that possibility. It's only a 7th.

Even if the offense doesn't improve with largely the same group (unlikely considering slow starts, a political hit job, scattered injuries, a coach in over his head, and likely player progression), we can still contend for a wild card spot with pretty much the same roster we had to end the season, minus injuries. Credit to Gorton for avoiding major issues in two straight expansions.

Credit to Drury as well for mitigating the loss if we do sign BG. Win win.

 

[Tob]

Drury doesn't seem like the type to put out $3.6X6 to Seravalli so he could temper expectations and make fans happy about a $3.45X6 when it does come out. Likely coming from the agent. Sounds like it's already a done deal. Shoot. We can probably afford 1 steep contract on this entire roster. 4 years of NMC and front loaded bonuses and dump him with a pick attached toward the end, 2nd and a 3rd the same way Islanders dumped Ladd's bigger contract. I'd be okay with that in principle if we're not going to be needing 2nd and 3rd rounders in 4 years.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I also don't know why everyone is plugging him in on Panarin's opposite side.

If anything, he's going to support who ever is centering the 3rd line if he isn't doing so himself.

 

[Thirty One]

5th and 6th years won't sting that badly if he is wearing two more Cup rings by then .

If he wears four Stanley Cup rings at once, I don't want him. That would look so tacky.

 

[SA16]

Perhaps you should

Danault:
Regular season 53 GP - 5 G 19 A - 24 PTS
Playoffs 22 GP - 1 G 3 A - 4 PTS
Total 75 GP - 6 G 22 A - 28 PTS - .373 PPG

Goodrow:
Regular season 55 GP - 6 G 14 A - 20 PTS
Playoffs 18 GP - 2 G 4 A - 6 PTS
Total 73 GP - 8 G 20 A - 28 PTS .383 PPG

So if you want to get technical Goodrow actually produced more than him last season. Take away the names and there is zero chance you could convince me that Player 1 should get payed $5.5m and Player 2 should get payed $3.5m

Maybe take a third look?

 

[Thirty One]

I also don't know why everyone is plugging him in on Panarin's opposite side.

If anything, he's going to support who ever is centering the 3rd line if he isn't doing so himself.

"If anything" suggesting there's a chance he was signed to do nothing.

My money is he'll start opposite Panarin.