OT: Raiders news, notes

LadyStanley

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Raiders game @ Chargers weather delayed. Lightning storm near arena.

Both teams have left the field.

Update: Lightning delay until 5:55pm PT
 
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StreetHawk

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Raiders, wtf.. Start off 3-0 and lose to the Chargers and Bears. Chargers, they have an elite QB, so I get that. But to lose at home to a rookie QB in only his 3rd NFL start? And the offense generates a FG and TD only? Come on Gruden....

The South and East do not appear to be producing a WC team. Only the North has WC contenders plus your own West division. Get it together.
 

IceNeophyte

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Raiders, wtf.. Start off 3-0 and lose to the Chargers and Bears. Chargers, they have an elite QB, so I get that. But to lose at home to a rookie QB in only his 3rd NFL start? And the offense generates a FG and TD only? Come on Gruden....

The South and East do not appear to be producing a WC team. Only the North has WC contenders plus your own West division. Get it together.

The Raiders' OLine has two speeds: "Let rushers in to Carr unencumbered" and "Draw a holding flag"

The D line is "okay." The safeties are "okay." between them, though, coverage fails consistently and run playes break through to the secondary far too often.
 

StreetHawk

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The Raiders' OLine has two speeds: "Let rushers in to Carr unencumbered" and "Draw a holding flag"

The D line is "okay." The safeties are "okay." between them, though, coverage fails consistently and run playes break through to the secondary far too often.
Plus they can't open up holes for the RBs. Gruden has to accept what his offence is and pull a little NE out and try some quick passes out to the flat and treat them like runs. Getting stuffed too often on 4th and short and 3rd and 2 or 3.
 

StreetHawk

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If it was just 1 email Gruden would have survivored this. Too many emails and too many inappropriate words used. He’s not a HS or college kid. Guy was around 50 back in 2011. With verbal words it can be the heat of the moment. When you type it out you have time to think it through first before you send it off. Plus it left a paper trail. like Herm Edward’s would say Don’t press send.

regardless of the job he had in football, be in with a team or in Tv he would be gone.
 

StreetHawk

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https://www.reviewjournal.com/post/2457849
Interim coach named

https://www.reviewjournal.com/post/2457839
6 potential candidate

Should be interesting for rest of season.
How much of the WFT investigation will get released? I mean the article mentions that Gruden sent those emails to more than just Bruce Allen his former Raiders associate. Did those people respond back in a similar tone? How much does the nfl want out there? Or should they try to get ahead of it?
 

LadyStanley

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@StreetHawk I'd suggest checking out the Football forum for those deets.


Gruden was NOT with the Raiders when the first emails happened that came out of WFT investigation, but ESPN.
 

StreetHawk

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Great win yesterday.


How much will the Raiders ultimately pay Jon Gruden to leave? It depends if he wants to fight

Gruden and Raiders owner Mark Davis appear to be taking a path toward an amicable settlement rather than a punitive legal battle.

Oye. So even though he resigned, he is owed guaranteed monies from contract?

Hope this settles quietly.
It should. Quietly is better for Gruden.

raiders now tied with chargers (actually 2nd due to tiebreaker). Ahead of KC and now Denver is 3-3 which isn’t surprising given that their 3-0 start were against the bottom feeders.

raiders host Philly next week then a bye. If they can get to the bye at 5-2 that sets them up well for the final 9 games.
 

StreetHawk

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Eagles and Giants the next two games before KC. Must win them both. In typical Raiders fashion they'll lose one or both of those and then beat the Chiefs.
KC playing sloppy. In a cap world something will be a weakness. They spent draft capital and cap hit on the OL. Thus D didn’t get help.

raiders need to take care of business. Their run game needs to be better. A 3.5 ypc rate for jacobs isn’t going to get it done.
 

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