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StreetHawk

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Vegan Knight said:
If the team goes say, 1-2 from here, 4-5 overall with AP (3-5 before), do you give him the job or see if Harbaugh has interest first?
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I say rah rah player coach only get you so far. Like Pete Carroll in Seattle. Never had great OC because of Pete’s ball control philosophy. Running the ball first is fine but you can do that with way more motions and still be physical Ala SF. Defensively, haven’t been the same since Quinn left and even Richard who inherited the end of the LOB days. Norton and Hurt not exactly getting it done.

So Pierce needs to have people he can get for his OC and DC. Guys who can run a scheme for the talent they have and coach guys up.
 

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StreetHawk said:
I say rah rah player coach only get you so far. Like Pete Carroll in Seattle. Never had great OC because of Pete’s ball control philosophy. Running the ball first is fine but you can do that with way more motions and still be physical Ala SF. Defensively, haven’t been the same since Quinn left and even Richard who inherited the end of the LOB days. Norton and Hurt not exactly getting it done.

So Pierce needs to have people he can get for his OC and DC. Guys who can run a scheme for the talent they have and coach guys up.
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I agree about player coaches and relying on motivational speeches probably has its limits and I'd probably prefer they take a long look at what's out there before making a decision.
 

StreetHawk

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Vegan Knight said:
I agree about player coaches and relying on motivational speeches probably has its limits and I'd probably prefer they take a long look at what's out there before making a decision.
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need to create schemes to play calls that put you into the best position to win. Can’t just rely on a players raw physical ability forever. Guys age and no guarantee you find replacements.

Absolutely need to see what is out there. But it’s still Mark making the final call like he did with McDaniels.
 

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LadyStanley said:
sports.yahoo.com

Raiders interim coach Antonio Pierce’s résumé is ‘on the grass’ as he strives for head job next season

Antonio Pierce is 4-3 leading the Raiders after he was promoted into the interim role.
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Davis is required to interview at least two external candidates before hiring new coach; can't just name interim Pierce new coach.
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Yeah, but 2 out of the last 3 games, no offensive touchdowns. Just 2 FGs in those 2 games, but sandwiched in between was a butt kicking by the team vs Chargers.

Pierce absolutely needs an upgrade at OC. Without someone good in that role, I can't give him the job. He'd be like Dan Campbell without Ben Johnson. Which is something, I'm curious to see how Detroit performs next season without Johnson, should he take a HC job this off-season. Be kind of like Buffalo after Daboll left.
 

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For 2024 schedule, with the results so far:
Get AFC North - Cin/Bal on Road. Pit/Cle at home
Get NFC South - TB/NO on Road. Car/ATL at home
Get Rams as extra game in LA
Get Jax and Mia as 2nd place schedule.
 
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LadyStanley said:
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Antonio Pierce considered leading candidate for Raiders

Antonio Pierce considered leading candidate for Raiders
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Mark has done little to give us confidence that he’s going to get this right. I hope he hires a GM first who has authority over personnel. HC should tell the GM what areas of the team need upgrades. GM needs to understand the scheme the team runs to ensure additions fit.

With all of the stuff going on in NO with Allen and with Amy Trask saying she isn’t surprised Saints players went rogue on him it shows poorly on Mark and the Raiders for hiring him a decade ago.

Pierce can work but they will need to find a good OC. But without a QB what up and coming coach would take the job?
 

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LadyStanley said:
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Ex-Cardinals HC Kliff Kingsbury pulls out of Raiders job, reportedly a favorite to become Commanders' new OC

Kingsbury also reportedly interviewed with the Chicago Bears, Pittsburgh Steelers and Philadelphia Eagles for coordinator jobs.
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Or not
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Kliff signed with AZ through to 2027, so he's getting paid by them in full until then. I would assume an OC job would still qualify as Offset language, so this should not be a money issue as he would still make the same $5 mill or so for the season with AZ covering the balance between his OC salary and HC salary. Unless, this would not qualify? Some sites were reporting that he wanted 3 not just 2 years from LV. Which seems a bit odd given his AZ money is still coming for 3 more seasons.

Not sure why he'd want to lock himself onto LV for 3 years vs. have the flexibility to move on if he wanted? Oh well.

Could also signal that he's not as confident in his system working with the QB that the Raiders are looking at.
 
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