News Article: Rachel Doerrie has left the Canucks

[StickShift]

I don't understand where this sporadic dislike of this hire is coming from. The more smart people we can get in our analytics department the better.

 

[im gangster]

It’s quite striking how upsetting some people still find the idea of women in the workplace.

 

[Angry Little Elf]

I don't understand where this sporadic dislike of this hire is coming from. The more smart people we can get in our analytics department the better.

She’s a woman who said some mean things

 

[Peen]

So you have proof to contradict the proof we have about her lieing?

Just like @F A N, you haven’t posted any proof as to what she said was a lie. You guys just simply don’t want to believe it

 

[im gangster]

She’s a woman.

I bet we can accurately predict which posters here would champion a Sean Burke hire the longer this thread goes.

 

[Vector]

She’s a woman who said some mean things

Talked in a tone that they didn't like. Wasn't deferential to others.

 

[Gstank]

Just like @F A N, you haven’t posted any proof as to what she said was a lie. You guys just simply don’t want to believe it

-Miller is fully vaxxed how could he be an antivaxxer
-Rutherford has said Miller is a leader in the room, definitely a cancer
-Petey didnt start shooting by until June how could he just hold out because he was just unhappy. That timeline makes no sense

 

[CherryToke]

Impressive resume and education. Imagine her trying to explain a script to Benning

 

[Vector]

Miller is fully vaccinated after the team got COVID. He didn't have a chance to be an anti-vaxxer since the vaccine rollout hadn't happened yet. The contention was that he was an anti-masker and that helped lead to the Canucks spread as others were emboldened to break protocols.

 

[MS]

Doerrie comes across as very bright but also a bit of a loose cannon who shows her age. And this is not a 'female' thing - I would never say the same about Botterill for example. For someone who was clearly looking to get back into an NHL role she didn't filter her comments at all and now has a fair bit of baggage - even if everything she said is true.

But she's smart and I like hiring smart people so this gets a big thumbs-up from me.

 

[rypper]

Further context to the Pettersson bit, is that while he was still injured he could have returned to play (as in it wasn't bad enough to keep him out of the lineup ie the team were on a playoff run) but chose not to.

Maybe had to do with the toxic environment around the team and management at the time? (That's my inference not RD.)

 

[BWJM]

She's 25 and has already been in the business seven years? Pretty impressive resume.
I think I was still playing beer pong.

You stopped playing??

I like this hire. Excited to see what JR continues to do.

 

[Melvin]

Further context to the Pettersson bit, is that while he was still injured he could have returned to play (as in it wasn't bad enough to keep him out of the lineup ie the team were on a playoff run) but chose not to.

Maybe had to do with the toxic environment around the team and management at the time? (That's my inference not RD.)

Wasn't this basically just common knowledge? I am surprised this is controversial. I thought everyone was under the impression that Pettersson had healed but that there wasn't any real need to bring him back into the lineup at that stage.

 

[Peen]

I just listened to the bit about Pettersson again. She went even further than that. She said there's a good chance that Pettersson doesn't play again for the Canucks in that podcast.

She said the Sedins were brought in - on top of the fact that they're obviously very smart and knowledgeable - to help mend those relationships.

22 minutes onwards ish

 

[Melvin]

Doerrie comes across as very bright but also a bit of a loose cannon who shows her age. And this is not a 'female' thing - I would never say the same about Botterill for example. For someone who was clearly looking to get back into an NHL role she didn't filter her comments at all and now has a fair bit of baggage - even if everything she said is true.

But she's smart and I like hiring smart people so this gets a big thumbs-up from me.

Yep. Sounds like she wasn't particularly careful with her social media presence which is not unexpected for someone in their early 20's. But also she made enough of a name for herself to land herself this job, so maybe wasn't such a bad idea?

 

[Peen]

Wasn't this basically just common knowledge? I am surprised this is controversial. I thought everyone was under the impression that Pettersson had healed but that there wasn't any real need to bring him back into the lineup at that stage.

I think the difference is a group decision versus Rachel's insinuation that it was purely Pettersson's camp that made that call.

 

[MS]

According to fans? Devils fans generally don't have a good impression of her.



What is lazy is making a big claim with nothing to back it up. Of course some people "make things up." Do you live in a world where everybody tells the truth?

But sure, when Brian Williams said that the helicopter he was in was forced down by rockets he just wrong. Didn't make it up. Or when Hillary Clinton said that she was dodging sniper fire during a visit to Bosnia. She was just wrong. Didn't make things up. When Sekeres said that Hughes had to use an IV, he was just wrong. Didn't make things up.

Eklund also never makes up any trade rumours.

Hillary Clinton?

Obviously people lie. However, sports media members don't just knowingly invent stories about the people and teams they're covering.

Sekeres obviously didn't 'make it up' that Hughes was on an IV. He would have either received a bad tip that he ran with without vetting properly or it was correct but denied by the team (which is also a thing).

The notion that media members would just 'make things up' about the team they're covering is nonsense. All it would do is damage their career and create enemies.

 

[rypper]

would be interesting to know
-why she hasnt had another Nhl job since she was released by the Devils
-why she was released after 1 year with the Devils

I believe she's was pursuing her masters degree at the same time, focused on that.

Why her employment ended with the Devils:

Then, on the morning of Jan. 4 she received word from human relations that her position as an assistant in the player information/video department, was being eliminated because of a new direction, which includes the addition of a vice president of analytics.

 

[mossey3535]

She was working for a bank so she came back for the game. I like her from listening to her podcast. She does seem to be connected and has been in the game for a long time considering her age. But maybe she has to start choosing her words more carefully.

 

[F A N]

Just like @F A N, you haven’t posted any proof as to what she said was a lie. You guys just simply don’t want to believe it

I didn't call her a liar. I don't think making things up is necessarily the equivalent to lying. Those can be different things.

I think Doerrie's status makes her a public figure or media personality when it comes to hockey. She worked for an NHL team before as an analyst and goes on radio shows and podcasts being introduced as such. She also writes articles. If say John Shannon or IMac or Sekeres said the same thing she said they should be grilled the same way and surely IMac and Sekeres have been accused of making things up.

Like I said earlier on here, I don't have an issue with hiring her for the analytics department and I think that among the female candidates we've heard about, she is the most qualified. This is apparently what she does and should be qualified for the job.

It's also not my job to do DD on my concerns (which I'm not the only one to express). If there's smoke there is fire and I trust that management has done their own DD when it comes to assessing an employees character and fitness for the job. For one thing, why did she leave NJ abruptly and unexpectedly?

 

[mossey3535]

Yep. Sounds like she wasn't particularly careful with her social media presence which is not unexpected for someone in their early 20's. But also she made enough of a name for herself to land herself this job, so maybe wasn't such a bad idea?

They obviously hired her because of/despite with the knowledge of things she has said.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I don't understand where this sporadic dislike of this hire is coming from. The more smart people we can get in our analytics department the better.

Gen Z + woman??
Cue the meltdown

 

[rypper]

I didn't call her a liar. I don't think making things up is necessarily the equivalent to lying. Those can be different things.

I think Doerrie's status makes her a public figure or media personality when it comes to hockey. She worked for an NHL team before as an analyst and goes on radio shows and podcasts being introduced as such. She also writes articles. If say John Shannon or IMac or Sekeres said the same thing she said they should be grilled the same way and surely IMac and Sekeres have been accused of making things up.

Like I said earlier on here, I don't have an issue with hiring her for the analytics department and I think that among the female candidates we've heard about, she is the most qualified. This is apparently what she does and should be qualified for the job.

It's also not my job to do DD on my concerns (which I'm not the only one to express). If there's smoke there is fire and I trust that management has done their own DD when it comes to assessing an employees character and fitness for the job. For one thing, why did she leave NJ abruptly and unexpectedly?

Her position was eliminated with a management change.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Her position was eliminated with a management change.

The management change which is about to lead the devils into another disastrous season

 

[canuckking1]

The big one that everyone is mad about is that she reported that Pettersson could have returned to the lineup at the end of last season but didn't.

That one was 100% proven wrong considering Petey didn't start shooting pucks until July. He was nowhere close to ready to play in May.

Canucks' Elias Pettersson resumes shooting pucks after wrist injury