News Article: Rachel Doerrie has left the Canucks

[Gstank]

I do think it was interesting that this was liked/retweeted by someone within that scouting community. Someone who would definitely have been in an around the same types of people Doerrie would have within the amateur scouting community.

Not surprising. She came off as stubborn and opinionated in that Interview where she was talking about Benning. Some of you guys find it funny but I found it immature and tone deaf considering she wants to work in an NHL front office

 

[Love]

What an unbelievably stupid tweet. But I guess it’s always good to have periodic reminders of why I left Twitter for good.

 

[Peen]

Not surprising. She came off as stubborn and opinionated in that Interview where she was talking about Benning. Some of you guys find it funny but I found it immature and tone deaf considering she wants to work in an NHL front office

It clearly didn’t stop her from getting hired and she reportedly had turned down other NHL offers before accepting this one.

I don’t think those comments were in any way unfair about the state of the canucks, FAQ, Benning, Weisbrod etc.

I would not have gone about it the same way she would have, though.

 

[rypper]

There's a lot of people (men) with home addresses in NJ and Vancouver who seem to relish in the idea that she might have been fired. Why I'll never understand.

I think it would be hilarious if she indeed left the team, on her own accord, for a better position with another team.

 

[Canucker]

Didn’t really know much about her other than listening to her podcast…wasn’t really a fan of her personality, but wasn’t sure if it was just a “radio persona” thing so i was willing to give her a chance…be curious to hear what really happened.

 

[StreetHawk]

There's a lot of people (men) with home addresses in NJ and Vancouver who seem to relish in the idea that she might have been fired. Why I'll never understand.

I think it would be hilarious if she indeed left the team, on her own accord, for a better position with another team.

I would imagine this is a position the requires a term contract vs an FTE one like someone in accounting, sales, Admin. Can’t just up and leave for another role unless given permission by the club.

 

[Peen]

Diversity Beacon Rachel Doerrie Apparently Fired by Canucks

One of the Vancouver Canucks symbols of diversity, Rachel Doerrie, hired by President of Hockey Operations Jim Rutherford early in 2022, has moved on from the hockey club. The reason for her apparent dismissal are not clear. It’s believed the decision was made at the highest levels of the...

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The reason for her apparent dismissal are not clear. It’s believed the decision was made at the highest levels of the organization.

So, Rutherford or FA.

 

[racerjoe]

Diversity Beacon Rachel Doerrie Apparently Fired by Canucks

One of the Vancouver Canucks symbols of diversity, Rachel Doerrie, hired by President of Hockey Operations Jim Rutherford early in 2022, has moved on from the hockey club. The reason for her apparent dismissal are not clear. It’s believed the decision was made at the highest levels of the...

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So, Rutherford or FA.

The highest levels screams FA. Just the wording. Or that is my take. Feel JR would be hockey ops or upper management in the way they are using it.

 

[bandwagonesque]

I'm not sure what response this guy is talking about. "I think it's probably because she's a jerk, because she seems like a jerk" isn't really misinformation, and it's being echoed by people in the scouting community.

 

[Vector]

The highest levels screams FA. Just the wording. Or that is my take. Feel JR would be hockey ops or upper management in the way they are using it.

He also said she left the organization and then followed that up with the article that she’s been fired. Simpson, from everything I’ve seen, isn’t a great writer.

 

[Peen]

I'm not sure what response this guy is talking about. "I think it's probably because she's a jerk, because she seems like a jerk" isn't really misinformation, and it's being echoed by people in the scouting community.

This type. It’s unfair. No one knows what happened in this case. It’s not even as if one side has alleged anything yet. There’s literally nothing except people knowing she isn’t working for us anymore.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

If this lady is actually a completely toxic, loose-cannon type it really does beg the question who approved this hiring in the first place.

Fairly typical for this gong show of an organization, all things considered, though.

Im guessing the truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

Diversity Beacon Rachel Doerrie Apparently Fired by Canucks

One of the Vancouver Canucks symbols of diversity, Rachel Doerrie, hired by President of Hockey Operations Jim Rutherford early in 2022, has moved on from the hockey club. The reason for her apparent dismissal are not clear. It’s believed the decision was made at the highest levels of the...

vancouverhockeynow.com

So, Rutherford or FA.

Those two and the GM would be the only ones with power to fire anyone. And they are all in the highest levels of management.

The highest levels screams FA. Just the wording. Or that is my take. Feel JR would be hockey ops or upper management in the way they are using it.

GM is a position a reporter would certainly call highest levels of management.

 

[Aphid Attraction]

Imagine landing a job 99% of people in your field would kill for and getting fired because you can't shut the f*** up.

FA is a piece of shit and he's rightfully going to answer for whatever he's proven guilty for, but Doerrie has a track record of saying whatever she wants and assuming there won't be consequences. I'm a young professional in a field of much older colleagues and contemporaries - I may be technically on their level but if I try to come in and reinvent the wheel, I shouldn't be surprised when people try to take me out.

Yes, Its not old boys club. To be expected to show humility and be humble in your first few years of your job when coming in on the ground floor. You can state your opinion and if they don’t listen to you and you are proven right later, and you are humble about it, they will notice and give you a shot later.

That said I have no idea what happened and literally nothing would surprise me at all at this stage.

 

[joelCAMEL]

It clearly didn’t stop her from getting hired and she reportedly had turned down other NHL offers before accepting this one.

I don’t think those comments were in any way unfair about the state of the canucks, FAQ, Benning, Weisbrod etc.

I would not have gone about it the same way she would have, though.

It clearly didn't stop NJ and Van from getting rid of her, so she is now free to explore the reportedly other NHL offers.

 

[egelband]

Dunno either but if there's a re-org in motion it makes sense.

Didn't the Canucks just go through this mid-last-season?

 

[MS]

This type. It’s unfair. No one knows what happened in this case. It’s not even as if one side has alleged anything yet. There’s literally nothing except people knowing she isn’t working for us anymore.

Shockingly, all of the same people who were saying you can't rush to judgement on Virtanen and the Aquilini stuff look like Usian Bolt in the 100m as they rush to judgement with no facts of any sort here. I wonder what the common denominator is?

This whole thing is super strange. It could be a lot of things. I was a bit surprised when she was hired here given some of her comments about the organization and some of the people in it (including high-profile players) when she was in the media - especially given how she got that info - and wondered if that was vetted and cleared before the hiring? Or just not noticed? And wondered if it would ever come back to bite her.

 

[bandwagonesque]

This type. It’s unfair. No one knows what happened in this case. It’s not even as if one side has alleged anything yet. There’s literally nothing except people knowing she isn’t working for us anymore.

There's at least five hundred people on Twitter advocating literally every possible point of view. Most people here, who are probably a better representation of hockey fans with an inclination to discuss their team in some depth, are mostly just saying that if someone you thought seemed like an asshole gets fired very quickly and unexpectedly, it's fairly reasonable to assume it was because her employers thought she seemed like an asshole. No one but people on Twitter you'd never heard of two hours ago have said this is definitely the case.

 

[F A N]

This whole thing is super strange. It could be a lot of things. I was a bit surprised when she was hired here given some of her comments about the organization and some of the people in it (including high-profile players) when she was in the media - especially given how she got that info - and wondered if that was vetted and cleared before the hiring? Or just not noticed? And wondered if it would ever come back to bite her.

But you thought she was credible so what would have been the problem?

 

[Vector]

But you thought she was credible so what would have been the problem?

We don’t know. We’re not going to spin off into wild speculation either. All we know is one reporter is saying she’s no longer with the organization. That hasn’t been corroborated yet either.

There’s a tendency to try and pin blame based on our own inherent biases.

 

[rypper]

In case I missed someone else touching on it, the time line for the Aquilini tweet doesn't add up.

Donnie and Dhali mentioned her being let go about 15 min into their show, so 10:15 say. (They run 10-12.) Right before Jeff Paterson comes on.

Wyatt Arndt made the tweet at 12:26. She liked the tweet sometime after that.

 

[MS]

But you thought she was credible so what would have been the problem?

I absolutely think she was credible. I believe everything she said was true or mostly true.

But she also mocked how terrible the organization was under Benning with lots of Benning's staff still here, leaked some stuff the organization didn't want out there, and said negative things about Hughes' brother, etc.

As I said at the time, I was happy about the hire at the time because you could tell she was extremely intelligent and this organization has been bereft of intelligent people. But was also a loose cannon with baggage.

 

[F A N]

I absolutely think she was credible. I believe everything she said was true or mostly true.

But she also mocked how terrible the organization was under Benning with lots of Benning's staff still here, leaked some stuff the organization didn't want out there, and said negative things about Hughes' brother, etc.

As I said at the time, I was happy about the hire at the time because you could tell she was extremely intelligent and this organization has been bereft of intelligent people. But was also a loose cannon with baggage.

Fair enough as you seem to think a lot of media people credible. I thought the complete opposite. I thought/think she was making things up. I was against her being considered to be an AGM and was fine with her being hired as part of the analytics team. I also thought that putting her in a a role where she's supporting the coaching staff is a role she is familiar with and can excel in.

I do think she can contribute to the success to the team and I currently have no idea why she is being let go. I can't think of a situation where a staff member was let go so close to the start of the season or in the midst of the season without some personal issue/inappropriate conduct.

 

[MS]

Fair enough as you seem to think a lot of media people credible. I thought the complete opposite. I thought/think she was making things up. I was against her being considered to be an AGM and was fine with her being hired as part of the analytics team. I also thought that putting her in a a role where she's supporting the coaching staff is a role she is familiar with and can excel in.

I do think she can contribute to the success to the team and I currently have no idea why she is being let go. I can't think of a situation where a staff member was let go so close to the start of the season or in the midst of the season without some personal issue/inappropriate conduct.

Media people don't 'make things up'.

Sometimes things can get muddled and end up incorrect, especially when it's indirect sources, but nobody goes and invents a story. It's a ludicrous notion.

 

[Rydgar]

Media people don't 'make things up'.

Sometimes things can get muddled and end up incorrect, especially when it's indirect sources, but nobody goes and invents a story. It's a ludicrous notion.

Have you read/heard the stuff Sekeres produces?