Speculation: Quinn Hughes wants to contend

[Habs Halifax]

Pettersson
Cozens, Byram, K.Helenius

Miller, 2nd
Mittelstadt, C.Ritchie

Hughes
Lafreniere, Miller, Schneider, 1st

Suter @50%, NYR 1st
C.Geekie


New top 6 F -
Jake Debrusk, Alex Lafreniere
Casey Mittelstadt, Dylan Cozens
Brock Boeser, Conor Garland

New top 4-
Keandre Miller, Bowen Byram
Braden Schneider, Filip Hronek

Three young centers-
Conor Geekie
Calum Ritchie
Konsta Helenius


Entire team rebuilt, now joining the ranks of bidder ourselves on the next Miller or Pettersson that becomes available.

What's a Hoglander, Lekkerimaki, Willander, 1st package fetch us at draft or in the offseason?

Definitely risks to doing this but there are rewards if the Canucks do their homework and make good trades. No doubt teams will engage and try to find deals that works for both sides. Might be a little setback but the Canucks can also draft more Grade A's in that setback/retool period... maybe 2 years. This is a case where it would not be a full rebuild that takes 5+ years.

 

[Breakers]

Lots of copium in this thread from Canucks fans. Some of these trade requirements are hilarious.

Hughes has a NMC and is a couple years away from being a free agent.

He is going to dictate this situation and if he wants to get traded it will be for a return that will be extremely underwhelming.

Don’t take it ? Sure then he just walks when he can for nothing. It will be a lose lose situation

Ahh yes Dictating the situation without a NMC
And hey genius he wants that 8th year in his new contract

 

[HellOnIce]

Ahh yes Dictating the situation without a NMC
And hey genius he wants that 8th year in his new contract

I don't think they care about the 8th year. He's in unique position, maybe unseen at this level and in this era.

Look at this way:

Quinn's contracts so far equal about 50M and he's about to sign for another 75-90 Million
Jack's contracts so far equal about 70M and he's going to sign another one in a few short years probably like 100M
Luke is about to sign probably 8x8 or something like that = 64M and will have another big contract after that,,,

SO between them - we're looking collectively at 400-450M+ between the brothers, not to mention, sponsorships, etc.....and you think Quinn's going to care about 1 year of 5-6M after taxes?

A team will not give up mega mega assets for Quinn if they aren't sure they can sign him. It just doesn't happen. He can't negotiate now, this isn't like Tkachuk - and the assumption - and given a lot of information out there in Hughes land - the boys have a unique ability to play together in their primes.

I can see a team wanting Quinn for 2 playoff runs understanding he'll likely go - but to say a team is going to throw one of the biggest returns ever? yeah IDK.

 

[nturn06]

Pretty sure the chatter about Pettersson and Miller not getting along pre-dates Quinn's captaincy.

I could be wrong here, but shouldn't true leadership try to fix that instead of letting it go from not getting along to a complete rift...

Or is true leadership "if they want out I alaso want out"?

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

I really dont know what the canucks are doing. Pretty sure the bruins regret letting debrusk walk,they should try to resign boeser if they can

If Vancouver moves out miller AND pettersson and boeser I can guarantee Hughes will walk in 3 years. Why would he want to stay around

 

[TageGod]

I really dont know what the canucks are doing. Pretty sure the bruins regret letting debrusk walk,they should try to resign boeser if they can

If Vancouver moves out miller AND pettersson and boeser I can guarantee Hughes will walk in 3 years. Why would he want to stay around

If you do a good job in the trades then they are fine. They are not "selling" it is a hockey trade. Thats why you add say Cozens and Byram, two good players instead of 1 roster player and magic beans.

 

[redwingsfannn9191]

If you do a good job in the trades then they are fine. They are not "selling" it is a hockey trade. Thats why you add say Cozens and Byram, two good players instead of 1 roster player and magic beans.

It's a risk though, if the trades dont work out hes gone 100%. Why move 3 guys ??? If miller goes shouldn't elias be fine and back to normal or has there also been beef with the coach that we dont know about ???

I would just move miller but what do I know

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

If Hughes became remotely available I'd hope the Avs threw everyone but MacKinnon or Makar and every draft pick at the Canucks to get a deal done. Having the chance to play Hughes and Makar on separate pairings would allow them to basically have a Top2-3 defensemen out there for 80-90% of the game.

 

[Monsieur Verdoux]

Welcome to the Devils, Quinn. The Devils have cap space $70,925,000 in the summer of 2027.

https://puckpedia.com/team/new-jersey-devils

 

[Breakers]

I don't think they care about the 8th year. He's in unique position, maybe unseen at this level and in this era.

Of course “they” dont
But Hughes DOES

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Canucks will give him an 8 year, 9 figure deal when it’s time. You see those forecasted cap changes? Miller seems like he’ll go - I’m betting in the off-season if these low ball offers are accurate. Boeser hopefully stays. This stuff around Hughes is sound and fury that signifies nothing. Here’s hoping win #4 in a row comes tonight.

 

[HBK27]

Canucks will give him an 8 year, 9 figure deal when it’s time. You see those forecasted cap changes? Miller seems like he’ll go - I’m betting in the off-season if these low ball offers are accurate. Boeser hopefully stays. This stuff around Hughes is sound and fury that signifies nothing. Here’s hoping win #4 in a row comes tonight.

Yeah, I can't really see the Canucks trading him anytime soon. Sounds like (at least from my limited knowledge on the situation), they're gonna try to stay competitive even if/while moving Miller, Boeser and/or Pettersson.

Earliest they might move him is summer 2026 if they're really not gaining any traction on a contract extension, though I fully expect Vancouver to offer a massive 8-year deal. A lot probably depends on how the next 1 1/2 seasons go and the outlook of the team at that time as to whether or not Quinn decides to extend. No point in him thinking too much about it until then unless the bottom really drops out on this team and he needs to consider requesting a trade, but that's highly unlikely.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Yeah, I can't really see the Canucks trading him anytime soon. Sounds like (at least from my limited knowledge on the situation), they're gonna try to stay competitive even if/while moving Miller, Boeser and/or Pettersson.

Earliest they might move him is summer 2026 if they're really not gaining any traction on a contract extension, though I fully expect Vancouver to offer a massive 8-year deal. A lot probably depends on how the next 1 1/2 seasons go and the outlook of the team at that time as to whether or not Quinn decides to extend. No point in him thinking too much about it until then unless the bottom really drops out on this team and he needs to consider requesting a trade, but that's highly unlikely.

For the rest of the guys on the roster, if I’m betting: it’s Miller who is the only one gone - and in the off-season. Pettersson only goes if there is a massive offer. Boeser probably gets re-signed to a long deal with the cap climbing.

The team has won three in a row and is playing with a healthy roster for the first time in quite a while. Demko is finding form again. Yeah, Rutherford was talking openly about a rift. But they haven’t pulled the trigger on rumoured offers that look lowball. Maybe management told the team clearly that they’ll do everything they can to make the change for Miller in the off-season, but it isn’t happening this year. That gives a light at the end of the horizon and clarity on the situation even as media and fans gnash and flail.

If a key player besides Miller is traded before end of season, I’d be surprised. It’s exhausting trying to read for meaningful updates on the Canucks with all the BS floating around.

 

[dgibb10]

Of course “they” dont
But Hughes DOES

And if need be, if Quinn gets to UFA and decides he's going to NJD but really does want year 8, there would simply be a severson type trade to secure the 8th year, and get Van some marginal assets instead of losing him for nothing.

 

[Siludin]

Largest return ever? Probably not.. but I don’t see how it wouldn’t be at minimum one of the top 3 in the cap era.

I’d be curious to know which trades you’d have ahead of it, since you seem to have such strong feelings about it?

Just a few off the top of my head in this class:
Eichel
Thornton
Karlsson
But to me the trade with the greatest amount of dominoes was the Hossa / Heatley deal.

 

[Breakers]

And if need be, if Quinn gets to UFA and decides he's going to NJD but really does want year 8, there would simply be a severson type trade to secure the 8th year, and get Van some marginal assets instead of losing him for nothing.

Ufa means the 8th year disappears

LOL

 

[dgibb10]

Ufa means the 8th year disappears

LOL

Unless you do what CBJ and NJD did with Damon Severson literally 2 years ago

 

[HugeInTheShire]

Ufa means the 8th year disappears

LOL

He's talking about Vancouver signing him to an 8 year extension and trading him the NJ for a draft pick, just like the Devils did when they signed Severson to an 8 year extension and dealt him to Columbus rather than let him hit the market and lose him for nothing.

 

[Breakers]

Unless you do what CBJ and NJD did with Damon Severson literally 2 years ago

LOL
You’re still not grasping it

“the ability to re-sign a Player to an SPC of eight (8) years expires when the Player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent”

Once the free agency opens it disappears entirely

He's talking about Vancouver signing him to an 8 year extension and trading him the NJ for a draft pick, just like the Devils did when they signed Severson to an 8 year extension and dealt him to Columbus rather than let him hit the market and lose him for nothing.

That’s not in unrestricted free agency then

Which he said

 

[dgibb10]

LOL
You’re still not grasping it

“the ability to re-sign a Player to an SPC of eight (8) years expires when the Player becomes an Unrestricted Free Agent”

Once the free agency opens it disappears entirely


That’s not in restricted free agency rhen

Which he said

By "gets to UFA" I mean finishes his final season of his current deal in Vancouver without being either traded or resigning.

At which point, (you can cry about tampering if you want but brothers will talk to each other), if Quinn knows his destination is NJD, and knows he wants 8 years badly.

Then he will walk into your GMs office and inform him of that, at which point you could either cry about him leaving, or get an asset out of it.

 

[Breakers]

By "gets to UFA" I mean finishes his final season of his current deal in Vancouver without being either traded or resigning.

At which point, (you can cry about tampering if you want but brothers will talk to each other), if Quinn knows his destination is NJD, and knows he wants 8 years badly.

Then he will walk into your GMs office and inform him of that, at which point you could either cry about him leaving, or get an asset out of it.

or they can trade him earlier

glad you grasped the concept

 

[dgibb10]

or they can trade him earlier

glad you grasped the concept

Alright then the same situation applies for NJD in regards to the new team, only this one he will have basically no connection too.

If Quinn actually wants to come to NJD with his brothers and he wants 8 years, it will happen whether we pay an exhorbiant price to get him early or not.

The 8 year vs 7 year limitation will not be a preventing factor that forces us to give up the entire war chest.

 

[Vergil]

Quinn is signing in NJ.

 

[elitepete]

Quinn is not going anywhere

 

[JKG33]

Quinn is not going anywhere

If he cares about winning he will. If I were him I'd be going right to management and saying really, this bitch is who we're hitching our wagon to?