GDT: Qualifying Offers, Buyout Window, & July 1st Free Agency Discussion Thread

[HABitual Fan]

I would sign all the RFAs whose QO is an amount that can be buried and doesn't count against the cap. Depth in Laval never hurts and worst case you bolster 3R with guys who need playing time like Mesar,Mysak Mailloux, etc... till the inevitable injuries hit. Target better veterans for Laval, even if you give out 1 way deals for NHL money. Maybe guys like Hudon will be interested.
Hoffman I send to Laval, hope he refused to report and terminate his contract.

 

[Shred]

Newhook is 22 and produced at lower levels which led him to be drafted right after Caufield. Kampf is 28 and never produced at lower levels which led him to be undrafted.

I know which of these two players has more potential right now. Newhook could very much be someone like Phillip Danault before leaving Chicago.

What was the reaction when we traded Weise and Fleischmann for Danault? Trade pretty much ended both their careers and Danault took off. Maesterful.

 

[RationalExpectations]

Bruins moved Hall but can't keep Bertuzzi? Probably have someone else lined up.

I am sure BOS is looking to trade for Lindholm or Scheifele. Could see them offering 1st + Lysell.

 

[SwiftyHab]

Bruins moved Hall but can't keep Bertuzzi? Probably have someone else lined up.

Is he worth signing?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Is he worth signing?

I don't know if the US has changed their stance, but it's hard for u vaccinated people to go into the states and he's unvaccinated.

If it hasn't, I doubt he goes to any Canadian team

 

[Takeru]

I hope to see some wheeling and dealing.

We are overloaded on D, overloaded on F, and have ample cap space.

I’ve argued elsewhere why using buyouts on Armia and Hoffman is an interesting and aggressive move to gain cap space and be able to sell it for a premium to hungry needy teams.

I strongly feel Hughes needs to be aggressive this summer because we cannot expect to tank again and they were too passive with last year’s tank regardless.

I’m not anti-HuGo whatsoever but in their third off-season they need to show something more. Floating through the summer will be discouraging esp since we don’t have a potential superstar prospect in our system.

Intriguing idea.
It offers the double advantage of freeing up spots at F that can be taken by up and coming prospects. Worst case we sign warm bodies at league min and are no worse for it.

Adding to it the cap being up for a massive raise next season, it's likely our last chance in a while to take advantage of our capspace.
Around 6.5M in cap to sell is nothing to scoff at.
The penalties should look insignificant down the line with cap raise.

Consider me on board!

Btw, I know it feels a while but isn't it their 2nd off-season?

 

[TennisMenace]

I hope to see some wheeling and dealing.

We are overloaded on D, overloaded on F, and have ample cap space.

I’ve argued elsewhere why using buyouts on Armia and Hoffman is an interesting and aggressive move to gain cap space and be able to sell it for a premium to hungry needy teams.

I strongly feel Hughes needs to be aggressive this summer because we cannot expect to tank again and they were too passive with last year’s tank regardless.

I’m not anti-HuGo whatsoever but in their third off-season they need to show something more. Floating through the summer will be discouraging esp since we don’t have a potential superstar prospect in our system.

Las Vegas doesnt have a super star on their team and they won the Cup. And before you hit me with Jack Eichel, since when did 27 goals and 66 points become superstar numbers? I feel pretty confident several of our boys, if healthy, can reach those numbers, or at least be close enough. Marchessult led their team with 28 goals…again, Goal Caufield can easily surpass that.

lastly, I don’t think you need a super star to win the cup anyhow….just a bunch of determined big effort guys who are coached properly and have pretty decent talent to begin with. Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs….I believe they have 4-5 superstars, especially if you count OReilly, and they still can’t even get into the finals.

 

[Takeru]

Team is too stuffed with players right now, about the only moves I can see are a new contract for Monty and maybe flipping one or two of the problem children.

forward - 14
Locks
Suzuki, Slafkovsky, Caufield, dach, newhook, Anderson, Gallagher, monahan
In play
Hoffman, Armia, RHP, pezz, Evans, dvorak, pitlick

Defense- 9
Lock
Matheson, savard, Guhle, Harris, Xhekaj, Barron
In play
Edmunson, wideman, kovacevic

At forward, you can potentially add Ylonen, Heineman and Farrell that could be fighting for a spot.
Some triming down is in order.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Blake Wheeler will be bought out

 

[26Mats]

By my calculations, we're going to have about 10M in cap space, minus whatever Newhook signs for and whatever RHP signs for above 1M, if anything.

Seems to me Hughes will want to use that cap space to take on a bad contract or upgrade on dvo in the top 9.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

By my calculations, we're going to have about 10M in cap space, minus whatever Newhook signs for and whatever RHP signs for above 1M, if anything.

Seems to me Hughes will want to use that cap space to take on a bad contract or upgrade on dvo in the top 9.

Habs have 13 forwards signed not including Newhook, or RHP.

Habs have 9 d signed.

They gotta trade 1, maybe 2 forwards. Pitlick can be waived and sent down.

Likely need to clear 1, but maybe 2 dmen.

He better make some decent move.

 

[Takeru]

Las Vegas doesnt have a super star on their team and they won the Cup. And before you hit me with Jack Eichel, since when did 27 goals and 66 points become superstar numbers? I feel pretty confident several of our boys, if healthy, can reach those numbers, or at least be close enough. Marchessult led their team with 28 goals…again, Goal Caufield can easily surpass that.

lastly, I don’t think you need a super star to win the cup anyhow….just a bunch of determined big effort guys who are coached properly and have pretty decent talent to begin with. Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs….I believe they have 4-5 superstars, especially if you count OReilly, and they still can’t even get into the finals.

Man, that Eichel 66pts season mention has to stop. You're not the first I see bringin it up.
How many games did Eichel take to reach those 66 pts btw? Ah right, 67gp. Puts things into perspective doesn't it?

What matters is PPG players, or close to it. That's what Eichel has been since his second NHL season.
VGK also had Stone scoring at PPG clip during last season. Plus Pietrangelo missing 10 games and still outscoring everyone on our team except Suzuki as a D (I know we had injuries but you get the idea).

Again, not directed at you specifically but this whole idea you don't need stars to win the cup is disingenuous. No team has won the cup without guys averaging PPG production or that had it in them during their careers, with the added capacity of turning it on during the playoffs at similar clip.
It's not a guaranteed win but a necessary component I'd say confidently.

 

[ReHabs]

Las Vegas doesnt have a super star on their team and they won the Cup. And before you hit me with Jack Eichel, since when did 27 goals and 66 points become superstar numbers? I feel pretty confident several of our boys, if healthy, can reach those numbers, or at least be close enough. Marchessult led their team with 28 goals…again, Goal Caufield can easily surpass that.

lastly, I don’t think you need a super star to win the cup anyhow….just a bunch of determined big effort guys who are coached properly and have pretty decent talent to begin with. Look at the Toronto Maple Leafs….I believe they have 4-5 superstars, especially if you count OReilly, and they still can’t even get into the finals.

Give me Stone, Karlsson, Eichel, Marchessault, and have our team outscore every other team, and I won't complain about a lack of superstar. But we don't have a single PPG player, they have multiple PPG-style players.

We tried winning by defense + scoring-by-committee and we had the best active goalie and it didn't work. Maybe you forgot?

 

[Andy]

I’d love to sign Wheeler and flip af the deadline, but I bet he goes to a contender for real cheap. Watch him end up in Colorado or Tampa

 

[26Mats]

Habs have 13 forwards signed not including Newhook, or RHP.

Habs have 9 d signed.

They gotta trade 1, maybe 2 forwards. Pitlick can be waived and sent down.

Likely need to clear 1, but maybe 2 dmen.

He better make some decent move.

Sign Newhook, RHP, and Ylonen that makes 16 forwards, 9 d, and 3 goalies.

We could waive all of Hoffman, Armia, Pitlick, and Wideman, and one of Primeau or Allen, that makes 13 forwards, 8 dmen, and 2 goalies for a 23 man roster, and about 10 M in cap space minus Newhook's deal.

But yeah, I don't see that happening. So there will be moves. Hughes is going to want to use that capspace to at least get a bad contract.

 

[sampollock]

Is he worth signing?

to much coin.. plus he needs to be smaller

 

[JHabs]

I'd like us to take a run at Comtois

 

[HabbyGuy]

For sure, we should do it again but doing the obvious thing is not something that tickles Hughes very much. We can’t be sure of it.

To be fair the only obvious thing that they've passed on is Michkov no?

What else am I missing?

 

[red devil]

 

[larek]

Not sure why you would keep ylonen
Lots of players and prospects

 

[That Habs Fan]

I'd take either of Comtois or Yamamoto. It's a shame Yama is right handed, I don't recall us being so short on quality left handed forwards.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I'd like us to take a run at Comtois

I'd be surprised if any team does.

He's likely 1 of the 8 of that sexual assault case..

Unless it's no longer an issue in which case I'd rather try and get Formenton from Ottawa..

 

[The Nightman]

Kinda a surprise name we haven’t seen rumoured to be bought out

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

We were #2 on Duchene's list when he was ufa.

Not sure if Hughes will be interested though since Duchene is 32.

 

[larek]

I'd take either of Comtois or Yamamoto. It's a shame Yama is right handed, I don't recall us being so short on quality left handed forwards.

I watched oilers alot
Stay away from Yams he really isn't that good