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DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Again, it all comes down to how he asked. Blowing up on the coach in front of your teammates is one thing. Talking to him behind closed doors is another entirely.
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Yeah, there is a delicate way to do it. However, looking at the roster, who was he thinking would get swapped out with him? Saad?
 
Yeah, we don't know exactly what happened or how Stalberg brought it up.

Stalberg never seemed like the kind of guy who would make a public (i.e. in front of teammates) scene of something like this. But again, we really don't know.

At the end of the day you're replacing Stalberg with a far inferior player, and that is irritating. Especially when the opposing team's defense skates like they're in quicksand and has struggled with the Hawks' speed in all four games this season.


And yes, BWC was going to support benching Stalberg regardless of any circumstance, so we can just let that go.
 
For the record, I trust/like Q. He's a top 5 coach in the league. This certainly isn't an offense worth firing him over. I'm also of the opinion that Stalberg gives us a MUCH better chance at winning hockey games, especially against a team like Detroit.

Seeing it from both sides is a hard concept for some here, I know. I've said it before, but gray area people.
 
coldsteelonice84 said:
Yeah, there is a delicate way to do it. However, looking at the roster, who was he thinking would get swapped out with him? Saad?
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I'd imagine Stalberg was thinking Shaw, given he's the one Bolland is replacing. That'd leave the two wingers on the third line playing the same position they have all year long.
It makes a lot of sense, actually. And I really like Shaw.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Questioning your role really isn't that big of an issue. If you pout in practice, start causing problems in the lockerroom and start trashing your coach in the media it's one thing. Approaching your coach and asking why you are being given the role you are in a one on one situation is something else entirely.

I'm not saying Stalberg is innocent in this. I don't know. But anyone saying "clearly" about this situation better be closely tied in to the Chicago Blackhawks organization.
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BS

Coaches Coach and Players Play

Do you think Frolik/Kruger want to have increased roles? Yes

But at end of day Q put them in roles and they work there ass off to do that job

Stalberg comnplaining about his "role" when he has been absolute garbage for 3 straight playoffs is unacceptable

Q is doing right thing benching him

Playing Carcillon on other hand is a issue
 
coldsteelonice84 said:
Yeah, there is a delicate way to do it. However, looking at the roster, who was he thinking would get swapped out with him? Saad?
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From somebody who has played the game at a much lower level, I know I would talk to my coach about my role if after a mediocre series - which a number of my teammates also had - I felt like I was being singled out for poor play when I certainly wasn't the only one.
Like I said, it's all in how it's done. If I ask in his office with the door closed and he blows up and benches me for having the audacity to question his judgement he's in the wrong. If I dog it in and practice and talk while he's speaking in a practice I'd be in the wrong.

Coach Q's statement was pretty vague. Stalberg could have asked why he's being played on the fifth line or asked why he's not on the the #1PP. Again, NOBODY HERE KNOWS. Anybody stating facts one way or the other is seeing things through the prism they want too.
 
Blackhawkswincup said:
BS

Coaches Coach and Players Play

Do you think Frolik/Kruger want to have increased roles? Yes
But at end of day Q put them in roles and they work there ass off to do there job

Stalberg comnplaining about his "role" when he has been absolute garbage for 3 straight playoffs is unacceptable

Q is doing right thing benching him

Playing Carcillon on other hand is a issue
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Please produce a quote stating Stalberg complained about a single thing.
 
Don't like this. Q needs to be icing the best team possible. Leave the ego at the door. This has become a huge distraction.

Not sure how it was handled but Stalberg had been held to a different standard since he has been here. Can't blame him but I hope asked behind closed doors.
 
I just think when you're already getting ice time and there isn't anyone else ahead of you playing bad, added to the fact you yourself could have played better...you've got no legs to stand on. But yeah, we do not know exactly what was said but whatever it was, it pissed Q off. Bad timing on Stalberg IMO.
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Please produce a quote stating Stalberg complained about a single thing.
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It was from Chris Kuc's tweets today...that's how the discussion on this angle got started.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 58m
@JayZawaski670 I'm told Stalberg questioned his role to coaches (not sure which one) on his role.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 1h
@JayZawaski670 Source said he questioned his role in certain situations.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 1h
Source said #Blackhawks winger Viktor Stalberg questioned his role--or lack of it--in certain situations.


Kuc also pointed out Mayers was mysteriously benched in the playoffs last year...I don't think we ever got an explanation as to why...it was weird b/c he'd played the entire regular season.

Q is weird like that. He's a good coach...but you get the impression that he has his favourites and the guys he doesn't like.
 
coldsteelonice84 said:
I just think when you're already getting ice time and there isn't anyone else ahead of you playing bad, added to the fact you yourself could have played better...you've got no legs to stand on. But yeah, we do not know exactly what was said but whatever it was, it pissed Q off. Bad timing on Stalberg IMO.
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Sure, but if for three days in a row Stalberg was playing on a line with Mayers and Bollig while Carcillo was slotted to play ahead of him on the fourth line it's certainly fair for Stalberg to question whether or not he's going to be playing come Wednesday night.

Again, nobody knows. It's only bad timing because Coach Q made it public. If they both handled the question like professionals then this isn't even being discussed, because nobody outside of the two of them knows about it.
 
Stalberg's forecheck creates panic/chaos and is potentially a huge weapon for us against suspect Wings defense (especially if top lines play to a stalemate). I could see dropping him to fourth line, but he should not be out of the lineup for now.

Carcillo does not bring much of anything except bad penalties.

I wouldn't mind seeing Smith either for his motor, grit, and versatility (he could even play a few shifts with 19/81 if Q wanted to put less on Saad but still keep him in the lineup).
 
UsernameWasTaken said:
It was from Chris Kuc's tweets today...that's how the discussion on this angle got started.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 58m
@JayZawaski670 I'm told Stalberg questioned his role to coaches (not sure which one) on his role.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 1h
@JayZawaski670 Source said he questioned his role in certain situations.

Chris Kuc ‏@ChrisKuc 1h
Source said #Blackhawks winger Viktor Stalberg questioned his role--or lack of it--in certain situations.


Kuc also pointed out Mayers was mysteriously benched in the playoffs last year...I don't think we ever got an explanation as to why...it was weird b/c he'd played the entire regular season.

Q is weird like that. He's a good coach...but you get the impression that he has his favourites and the guys he doesn't like.
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I've already explained that he isn't quoted as complaining about anything. And Coach Q definitely plays favorites. That and juggling lines has been the two biggest knocks against him his entire career. Does anybody remember Matt Walker sucking night in night out and never seeing his minutes drop?
 
DisgruntledHawkFan said:
Sure, but if for three days in a row Stalberg was playing on a line with Mayers and Bollig while Carcillo was slotted to play ahead of him on the fourth line it's certainly fair for Stalberg to question whether or not he's going to be playing come Wednesday night.

Again, nobody knows. It's only bad timing because Coach Q made it public. If they both handled the question like professionals then this isn't even being discussed, because nobody outside of the two of them knows about it.
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Well, yeah, like you said, nobody knows. My thinking was Stalberg questioned his role after the last series, then found himself in the white jersey. If it was the opposite, then yeah, what do you have to lose by asking.
 
I love how people just took "Stalberg questions his role" and made it "Stalberg runs into Qs office as he is taking his nap and pisses on him while screaming F-you and then throws pictures of himself banging Qs wife and daughters in his face."

But I would expect nothing less from this group.
 
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