Post-Game Talk: PS #1 - 09/18/19 | devils @ RANGERS | 7:00 - MSG

[aufheben]

that PP1 was pure porn....

Here's where the Rangers ranked in league PPG the last 8 years...20, 16, 14, 25, 26, 17, 24, 20

Basically middle of the pack - bottom of the league every year. That's gonna change this year and it will be glorious to watch.

Weren’t they top-10 one year recently?

2018-19: 17th
2017-18: 14th
2016-17: 11th
2015-16: 14th
2014-15: 21st

2014-19: 11th
2009-14: 23rd

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Weren’t they top-10 one year recently?

That was total PPG. Here's their PP% ranks over the same span. They finished 11th in PP% in 2017.

17, 14, 11, 14, 21, 15, 23, 23

 

[ohbaby]

Ok, just watched the entire game replay, and I have nothing to add. LOL

Still too many lapses on D. Unforced turnovers, not busting butt on covering third man in (Ahem Lias).

McKegg's forced turnover leading to Haley's empy-netter was even better than thought. He was at the end of his shift, while his linemates were getting off the ice. Plus he was noticeable at other times as well.

 

[aufheben]

That was total PPG. Here's their PP% ranks over the same span. They finished 11th in PP% in 2017.

17, 14, 11, 14, 21, 15, 23, 23

Oh ok, I missed the PPG part, my bad.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Andersson was impressive last night. I felt he had much more jump in his legs than previous years, and defensively he was very good for the majority of the game. Nice to see him pick up a G too.

Kravstov is so damn skilled. I thought at times he read the play well and at other times he was on the wrong side of the ice chasing pucks. He is sneaky as hell with the puck and so slick with the one touch passes and moves he makes. But that is what is working against him right now. We'll see how he performs in the next few games he gets into but im sure Quinn is going to review his game with him and let him know its not all about the flash and showy moves. I could see Kravstov starting with the Pack, but fortunately for the Rangers this kid has a great head on his shoulders and will listen to the feedback and grow from it, I'm sure of that.

Shestyorkin was pretty solid but he definitely needs some seasoning in the AHL before they bring him into the NHL. He could use a month or two or three of games in North America to acclimate to everything including the rink size, which is a factor but I think it gets a little overblown. I think it's more about the pace of play and adapting his game to successfully navigate the traffic and screens that every team sets a priority on in this league.

Fox is as cool as they come. Im sure hell have his moments on the back end where he is exposed, but he makes up for it in spades all over the ice with smart passes, pinches, look-offs, keeps and sneaky accurate shots and puck play. Looking forward to seeing how he fares against a consistent barrage of NHL forwards bearing down on him.

Zibanejad will be named captain. The Rangers had a twitter feature on him and MSG played that 5 minute feature on him with all of teammates praising him. Sure looks like they are warming up the fanbase to present him with the C. He picked up right where he left off. Damn is he fun to watch. As a right-handed center myself, it is great to watch how controlled, confident and solid he is in his abilities. It seems like he has really matured off the ice the last couple of seasons and has really earned the nomination if the Rangers indeed give it to him.

If McKegg continues to play the way he has he's earned a 4th line/13th forward roster spot in my book.

Skjei - I think it would be silly to automatically ink him into the top d pair. The Rangers really dont have another option to take on those minutes on the left side, which is part of the problem. Ill admit I wasnt watching him much for the same reasons, but that in itself is an issue. We need this kid to start playing the way he did a few seasons back in the playoffs when he really took it to another level. He has seemed to regress since then, for whatever reason. Quinn and the staff need to take a close look at this kid and stay on him. There's too much stock put into him going forward.

Kreider - I know, I know. Wait until his usual disappearing act. But I tell you what - listening to Joe speak about how he feels in the best shape of his life as he goes into camp each year and how he makes it a point to switch up his diet and perfect the balance of it all (and I believe it) makes me pause when thinking about dealing him at the deadline. If there is ever a dude that could continue to be a power forward into his late 30s its Chris Kreider. And while we are all waiting for that next step of consistency in his game, it may be perfectly fine to stop. This is a guy who's durable and who's put up very consistent numbers his whole career. Maybe thats what you get every year, 25 goals, 25 assists. Except it goes on for another 8-10 seasons. He's that type of rare specimen.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Oh and one more thing.

Is something up with Al Trautwig? He looks about 5 years older and his voice and hands are shaky as hell. When they cut back to him after the first, it looked like he had just been crying and/or really upset. There's def something up with him. Hope everything is ok, but it doesnt look it.

 

[mulli25]

I want to just flash forward a few weeks to when we can say LOL remember when Skjei and Trouba were embarrassingly bad in that preseason game?

But for now, yikes.

 

[chosen]

Is it just me...or is nick Jones really effing impressive?

He is one of those guys who never looks out of place among his peers.

 

[Mike in Houston]

I had the same problem you did. Every time the feed went to commercial and NHLTV tried to stub in their own (garbage) commercials, the stream would lock up and crash. After that happened a few times I started getting the same error message about my account being in use at another location, which means the session established before the stream crashed was still active and it was preventing me from establishing a new one. The location part of the warning is just BS. FWIW, I had better luck just streaming of my phone instead of casting to my Shield TV or Chromecast.

Also, leaving the {appName} wildcard marker in the error message is just crap error handling and offensive to me as a software engineer.

As a matter of fact the stream crash happened too last night. As soon as the game went to commercial the feed would freeze. Then "An unexpected error has occured". I shut the app down, restarted it, started streaming the game on the phone, then cast it, but it wouldn't work.

Is this an NHL.TV issue or a developer (Bamtech) issue?

 

[ohbaby]

Andersson was impressive last night. I felt he had much more jump in his legs... and defensively he was very good for the majority of the game.

Oh yeah, he sure had jump on this play.


I'm being sarcastic when maybe I shouldn't. But we cannot sacrifice lackadaisical play for some good efforts offensively.

 

[Trxjw]

As a matter of fact the stream crash happened too last night. As soon as the game went to commercial the feed would freeze. Then "An unexpected error has occured". I shut the app down, restarted it, started streaming the game on the phone, then cast it, but it wouldn't work.

Is this an NHL.TV issue or a developer (Bamtech) issue?

Probably a bit of both. Hopefully it's just pre-season kinks.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Oh yeah, he sure had jump on this play.


I'm being sarcastic when maybe I shouldn't. But we cannot sacrifice lackadaisical play for some good efforts offensively.

lol that specific play is why i said the "majority" of the game.

 

[Hi ImHFNYR]

I had the same problem you did. Every time the feed went to commercial and NHLTV tried to stub in their own (garbage) commercials, the stream would lock up and crash. After that happened a few times I started getting the same error message about my account being in use at another location, which means the session established before the stream crashed was still active and it was preventing me from establishing a new one. The location part of the warning is just BS. FWIW, I had better luck just streaming of my phone instead of casting to my Shield TV or Chromecast.

Also, leaving the {appName} wildcard marker in the error message is just crap error handling and offensive to me as a software engineer.

I'm sure the nhl pays it's software guys bottom dollar and treats them like expendable garbage like the video games industry

 

[ohbaby]

lol that specific play is why i said the "majority" of the game.

Seeing that play made me furious, cause it is exactly what I warned about this coming season. Centermen covering that third man in. He had just come off the bench also. So it was not like he was tired at the end of his shift. He saw his man, and thought he had him covered. NOT.

 

[nyr2k2]

Doesn't the NHL still contract with MLB Advanced Media for all their digital offerings? Phone, Internet, etc.? MLB's stuff is pretty top-notch, IMO.

 

[Levitate]

Seeing that play made me furious, cause it is exactly what I warned about this coming season. Centermen covering that third man in. He had just come off the bench also. So it was not like he was tired at the end of his shift. He saw his man, and thought he had him covered. NOT.

and on another play he backchecked hard and lifted a guys stick in the slot and stole the puck

young players are gonna make mistakes like that even if they're good most of the time. Heck, veterans make that mistake a lot too but we usually aren't as focused on them

 

[Fugazy]

Oh and one more thing.

Is something up with Al Trautwig? He looks about 5 years older and his voice and hands are shaky as hell. When they cut back to him after the first, it looked like he had just been crying and/or really upset. There's def something up with him. Hope everything is ok, but it doesnt look it.

I really hope not. That guy is an institution at MSG.

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Andersson was impressive last night. I felt he had much more jump in his legs than previous years, and defensively he was very good for the majority of the game. Nice to see him pick up a G too.

Kravstov is so damn skilled. I thought at times he read the play well and at other times he was on the wrong side of the ice chasing pucks. He is sneaky as hell with the puck and so slick with the one touch passes and moves he makes. But that is what is working against him right now. We'll see how he performs in the next few games he gets into but im sure Quinn is going to review his game with him and let him know its not all about the flash and showy moves. I could see Kravstov starting with the Pack, but fortunately for the Rangers this kid has a great head on his shoulders and will listen to the feedback and grow from it, I'm sure of that.

Shestyorkin was pretty solid but he definitely needs some seasoning in the AHL before they bring him into the NHL. He could use a month or two or three of games in North America to acclimate to everything including the rink size, which is a factor but I think it gets a little overblown. I think it's more about the pace of play and adapting his game to successfully navigate the traffic and screens that every team sets a priority on in this league.

Fox is as cool as they come. Im sure hell have his moments on the back end where he is exposed, but he makes up for it in spades all over the ice with smart passes, pinches, look-offs, keeps and sneaky accurate shots and puck play. Looking forward to seeing how he fares against a consistent barrage of NHL forwards bearing down on him.

Zibanejad will be named captain. The Rangers had a twitter feature on him and MSG played that 5 minute feature on him with all of teammates praising him. Sure looks like they are warming up the fanbase to present him with the C. He picked up right where he left off. Damn is he fun to watch. As a right-handed center myself, it is great to watch how controlled, confident and solid he is in his abilities. It seems like he has really matured off the ice the last couple of seasons and has really earned the nomination if the Rangers indeed give it to him.

If McKegg continues to play the way he has he's earned a 4th line/13th forward roster spot in my book.

Skjei - I think it would be silly to automatically ink him into the top d pair. The Rangers really dont have another option to take on those minutes on the left side, which is part of the problem. Ill admit I wasnt watching him much for the same reasons, but that in itself is an issue. We need this kid to start playing the way he did a few seasons back in the playoffs when he really took it to another level. He has seemed to regress since then, for whatever reason. Quinn and the staff need to take a close look at this kid and stay on him. There's too much stock put into him going forward.

Kreider - I know, I know. Wait until his usual disappearing act. But I tell you what - listening to Joe speak about how he feels in the best shape of his life as he goes into camp each year and how he makes it a point to switch up his diet and perfect the balance of it all (and I believe it) makes me pause when thinking about dealing him at the deadline. If there is ever a dude that could continue to be a power forward into his late 30s its Chris Kreider. And while we are all waiting for that next step of consistency in his game, it may be perfectly fine to stop. This is a guy who's durable and who's put up very consistent numbers his whole career. Maybe thats what you get every year, 25 goals, 25 assists. Except it goes on for another 8-10 seasons. He's that type of rare specimen.

Good post, thanks

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Team didn’t much 5 on 5 , and we lost to the Devils b-squad and had most of our big guns playing . I’m not gonna get all hyped up about this result.

 

[will1066]

As a matter of fact the stream crash happened too last night. As soon as the game went to commercial the feed would freeze. Then "An unexpected error has occured". I shut the app down, restarted it, started streaming the game on the phone, then cast it, but it wouldn't work.

Is this an NHL.TV issue or a developer (Bamtech) issue?

Yes. Glad I wasn't the only one who experienced this, and thanks for the explanation @Trxjw.

On a related note, MSG Go was also bonkers and wouldn't launch at all.

It's like every preseason, the NHL app needs to kick off the offseason rust.

MSG Go seems ok now. I think I'll watch the game again tonight on MSG Go because the NHL.TV stream was so glitchy last night I couldn't really get into the game and focus.

 

[will1066]

Oh and one more thing.

Is something up with Al Trautwig? He looks about 5 years older and his voice and hands are shaky as hell. When they cut back to him after the first, it looked like he had just been crying and/or really upset. There's def something up with him. Hope everything is ok, but it doesnt look it.

It seemed similar to what Angela Merkel had recently.

 

[romba]

Joe M heaps praise on Zib then says "While we don't know if the Rangers will give him the C..." His mentioning it as possibility on the Rangers official broadcast with all the not-so-subtle buildup and marketing of Mika's leadership and awesomeness confirms it's happening. Shhhhhhhh!

 

[Leetch3]

Joe M heaps praise on Zib then says "While we don't know if the Rangers will give him the C..." His mentioning it as possibility on the Rangers official broadcast with all the not-so-subtle buildup and marketing of Mika's leadership and awesomeness confirms it's happening. Shhhhhhhh!

they also talked alot about kreider's leadership and how everyone spent the summer working out with him...obviously he'd need to sign an extension to first but I don't think the emphasis on his importance to the team was random either.

 

[Ola]

I don’t really get the Skjei hate. Focusing on the wrong things. I am willing to bet a lot that he will win a lot of fans back this season.

 

[RangerLifer]

Oh and one more thing.

Is something up with Al Trautwig? He looks about 5 years older and his voice and hands are shaky as hell. When they cut back to him after the first, it looked like he had just been crying and/or really upset. There's def something up with him. Hope everything is ok, but it doesn't look it.

I was watching online last night but my computer went haywire and I didn't see it at first but I saw it on the replay. He didn't look right at all, as if he was about to break down crying.