Confirmed with Link: Prout inks 2 year extension

[EDM]

The biggest problem I have with this deal is that it seem to confirm that the FO has very little faith in the group of young d prospects at LME and that reflects very, very badly on Jarmo's drafting. No one at LEM ready to step up in the next 2 years ?????? For the love of Gordie Howe, that is bad. for all of the "love" of Jarmo's supposed darting "expertise" we have precious little to show for it. Wennberg remains a VERY slow developing prospect, although he certainly has potential. Ok, Dano helped us get Saad. Rychel has not done much to impress me.

I feel rather depressed that the FO itself sees little potential in what it has at LEM for Dmen. That bugs me a lot.

 

[DJA]

The biggest problem I have with this deal is that it seem to confirm that the FO has very little faith in the group of young d prospects at LME and that reflects very, very badly on Jarmo's drafting. No one at LEM ready to step up in the next 2 years ?????? For the love of Gordie Howe, that is bad. for all of the "love" of Jarmo's supposed darting "expertise" we have precious little to show for it. Wennberg remains a VERY slow developing prospect, although he certainly has potential. Ok, Dano helped us get Saad. Rychel has not done much to impress me.

I feel rather depressed that the FO itself sees little potential in what it has at LEM for Dmen. That bugs me a lot.

What group of young D prospects? It is a mix of career AHLers, Euro overagers, and not-ready-for-primetime tweeners.

The problem with that 2013 draft was that Jarmo drafted 3 forwards with 3 first round picks. Then he took Milano in '14. We have added very little in the way of top-end D prospects in his tenure (reserving judgment on Werenski).

 

[EDM]

Heatherington for one.

 

[NotWendell]

I still don't understand the hysterics over the signing of a #6/#7 d-man who got a whopping 475K increase in AAV. It just doesn't concern me. If we picked up a pile of garbage off the waiver wire instead, the same people would be complaining.

Better the garbage you know?

 

[Johansen2Foligno]

We need our shiny new toys these days!

 

[DJA]

Heatherington for one.

He is nowhere near ready to play 15+ minutes a night in the NHL (and he is unfortunately the closest to NHL ready of that motley crew).

 

[WannabeFinn]

He is nowhere near ready to play 15+ minutes a night in the NHL (and he is unfortunately the closest to NHL ready of that motley crew).

You think none of Paliotta, Falk, Heatherington, Kukan, Nutivaara, and Gavrikov could do what Prout does?

 

[major major]

Kukan looked fine to me last night, made good decisions under intense pressure. That's more than can be said of Prout.

 

[WannabeFinn]

It takes a certain level of talent to be that much of a dumpster fire, and really.. none of our prospects have that ability. Shame.

 

[Samkow]

We need our shiny new toys these days!

Given that the current toy is a choking hazard and extremely flammable, I can't blame anyone who wants a new one.

 

[NotWendell]

Given that the current toy is a choking hazard and extremely flammable, I can't blame anyone who wants a new one.

Not to mention, fragile.

 

[DJA]

You think none of Paliotta, Falk, Heatherington, Kukan, Nutivaara, and Gavrikov could do what Prout does?

Not in the least. I saw Paliotta perform like an ECHLer in his only appearance, Falk will be gone at the end of the year, and what have the others done at the NHL level to oust Prout? This isn't NHL '16 you don't get to just plug guys onto the team if they don't earn it.

 

[DJA]

Kukan looked fine to me last night, made good decisions under intense pressure. That's more than can be said of Prout.

It's one game. You're awarding him a spot full time?

 

[Cowumbus]

It's one game. You're awarding him a spot full time?

Yes. The 7th man spot. Prout will be paid to watch the game from press box. Murr Jones Johnson Savard Golo and Tyuts ahead of him. Why the need for Prout? When healthy he won't be playing

 

[major major]

It's one game. You're awarding him a spot full time?

Ha. No, but he was better than Prout last night. And with my assessment of Prout, Kukan can probably surpass that low-bar most of the time. Or some other rando.

I don't consider Prout a decent #6/7. He's an AHL level d-man. With that, we don't really need to guarantee that some other AHL level d-man can play in the NHL first before we jettison Prout.

 

[DJA]

Yes. The 7th man spot. Prout will be paid to watch the game from press box. Murr Jones Johnson Savard Golo and Tyuts ahead of him. Why the need for Prout? When healthy he won't be playing

I was referring to Kukan. Try to follow along

 

[DJA]

Ha. No, but he was better than Prout last night. And with my assessment of Prout, Kukan can probably surpass that low-bar most of the time. Or some other rando.

I don't consider Prout a decent #6/7. He's an AHL level d-man. With that, we don't really need to guarantee that some other AHL level d-man can play in the NHL first before we jettison Prout.

You take Prout and Tyutin (buyout or trade) out of the lineup in the offseason and replace them with Golo and Kukan and you're talking one of the softest D corps in the NHL.

 

[Xoggz22]

It's one game. You're awarding him a spot full time?

So OK to judge Paliotta by one game but not Kukan? Got it.

 

[DJA]

So OK to judge Paliotta by one game but not Kukan? Got it.

Major was the one judging Kukan after one game saying he was ready to take over for Prout full time, not me.

I am in favor of keeping them both in the AHL. Is it that hard to understand?

 

[WannabeFinn]

Not in the least. I saw Paliotta perform like an ECHLer in his only appearance, Falk will be gone at the end of the year, and what have the others done at the NHL level to oust Prout? This isn't NHL '16 you don't get to just plug guys onto the team if they don't earn it.

Okay, there's plenty of bargain bin players that have NHL experience who could replace Prout for less on a 1 year deal.

Point is there are plenty of options that while they may not necessarily play better than Prout, they would carry less of a cap hit.

 

[DJA]

Okay, there's plenty of bargain bin players that have NHL experience who could replace Prout for less on a 1 year deal.

Point is there are plenty of options that while they may not necessarily play better than Prout, they would carry less of a cap hit.

I keep hearing about these "plenty of names" but no one ever provides specifics.

 

[SuperGenius]

You think none of Paliotta, Falk, Heatherington, Kukan, Nutivaara, and Gavrikov could do what Prout does?

Are you trying to develop good young NHL defensemen or plug gaps? I'd rather have Prout while these guys develop than to throw them into a situation that hurts their overall development.

 

[WannabeFinn]

Are you trying to develop good young NHL defensemen or plug gaps? I'd rather have Prout while these guys develop than to throw them into a situation that hurts their overall development.

wouldn't wanna hurt Falk's development

 

[major major]

You take Prout and Tyutin (buyout or trade) out of the lineup in the offseason and replace them with Golo and Kukan and you're talking one of the softest D corps in the NHL.

I don't agree. Savard is an absolute beast. Jack too. There's clubs out there that don't have anyone that tough.

In any case I think we have a difference of opinion about what we want from a d-man. I frankly don't care how big and tough you are if you can't move the puck properly.

Major was the one judging Kukan after one game saying he was ready to take over for Prout full time, not me.

I am in favor of keeping them both in the AHL. Is it that hard to understand?

Ha! Nope, no one said that. Might want to work on the reading comprehension.

I expect we'd be able to find a cheap rando who could improve on Prout. But it might take going through a few guys to see who works. Kukan might work, I don't know.

 

[DJA]

I expect we'd be able to find a cheap rando who could improve on Prout. But it might take going through a few guys to see who works. Kukan might work, I don't know.

Gee, that sounds like a great plan for team cohesion and D partners learning to work with each other.