Confirmed with Link: Prout inks 2 year extension

[We Want Ten]

Good for Prout I guess.

 

[Cowumbus]

I'm laughing because I'm not sure if you are serious.

On a side note, what does this mean in the context of AP's comment that we'll be a different team. This deal sure doesn't send a message that the FO is serious about change.

Couldn't agree more. Are we Really trying to get better

 

[GoChill]

Why Now

What I don't get is why you would do this now. Why not see how the off season develops, how the draft goes, what FA's are available, do we make any trades, does Werenski get a taste this year and look ready etc.

Then depending on how things look sign Prout if it's the best option. He is an RFA so he's not going any where although we would have to qualify him. I guess he could take us to arbitration but that happens in late summer by then the draft and the height of FA season are over. Maybe Jarmo was afraid of an offer sheet.

Now unless something changes we go to camp with 7 Dmen on one way deals. No room for Paliotta, Heatherington, Werenski or any FA's that could be hanging out there late in the summer. Incidently, that's how we got Hejda and that worked well for a number of years. The Islanders also got some nice Dmen in late summer steals a couple years ago. Ehrhoff was available that way this year, he hasn't had a good season but the point is it would be nice to have the flexibility to jump on a situation like that if it arises. However as it stands now there is no room at inn for opportunities that may arise.

I just don't see why we tie our hands with this deal before the season even ends. It may turn out well but we could do this deal in late July and it would turn out the same.

GoChill

 

[DarkandStormy]

Jarmo sucks

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

What I don't get is why you would do this now. Why not see how the off season develops, how the draft goes, what FA's are available, do we make any trades, does Werenski get a taste this year and look ready etc.

The answer is simple, it's just not appealing.

 

[MoeBartoli]

I'm surprised on how many here are not a fan of Prout. He is not making $4M...he is a bottom pair guy that is a big body and will intimidate. We need $1M players on the roster. Can't have 6 dmen making $5M each. Good for Prout!

Yes, great for Prout....But You are assigned to write on the blackboard 500 times: This is not a good signing. This is not a good signing. This is not a good signing........

 

[MFRONE]

Yeah.. but we can have guys on ELCs getting valuable playing time who won't take bonehead penalties over Prout.

No defenseman signed to an ELC would be even close to as good as Prout.

I'm not even a big fan of his but this is not a bad deal for a #5/6 guy.

 

[major major]

Thinking back to our 0-8 start, it was Prout more than any other skater who dragged us down. He was -9 in those 8 games, which is amazing for third pair minutes. I remember we were going on and on about Connauton and Prout bringing us down (remember when we were considering bringing in Gunnarson?). And when Connauton was separated, he thrived. Prout dragged the next guy down.

I don't deny that he's improved since then, but I want d-men who can hold the fort when the team is panicing, not be the first guy to lose it. Crap puck movement too, but what really gets me is his panic mode.

 

[major major]

Forget making space for rookies. We needed to get a guy like Nick Schultz.

 

[DJA]

I am fine with this. He has been much better lately and is a top heavyweight in the league. Who exactly do we have in the prospect pipeline to step in and play every night?

Also if the rumors are true and Werenski is going back to Mich next year then we don't have many other options.

 

[SuperGenius]

I am fine with this. He has been much better lately and is a top heavyweight in the league. Who exactly do we have in the prospect pipeline to step in and play every night?

Also if the rumors are true and Werenski is going back to Mich next year then we don't have many other options.

Agree with this. It would appear many posters made up their minds about him before he came back and started playing well. I wonder sometimes if people remember that these guys are human and have ups and downs - it's not like players are defined by their ratings and constantly perform at that level like a video game.

One of the deficiencies of the CBJ is their lack of 'weighty' players, and Prout brings that. Plenty of the players are physical and some are big guys, but few combine the two Can't see a problem here. As DJ says, who's going to take that spot? Heatherington is probably the next best thing and he's not ready.

 

[CBJSlash]

Torts has turned many marginal dmen into serviceable players. I don't like the player more than Goloubef, but this is an indication the coach and organization do.

 

[EspenK]

Agree with this. It would appear many posters made up their minds about him before he came back and started playing well. I wonder sometimes if people remember that these guys are human and have ups and downs - it's not like players are defined by their ratings and constantly perform at that level like a video game.

One of the deficiencies of the CBJ is their lack of 'weighty' players, and Prout brings that. Plenty of the players are physical and some are big guys, but few combine the two Can't see a problem here. As DJ says, who's going to take that spot? Heatherington is probably the next best thing and he's not ready.

Really? Johnson, Jenner, Foligno, Dubinsky, Hartnell, Boll, Savard aren't weighty in your mind? I think the problem is almost the exact opposite-too many weighty players.

 

[We Want Ten]

Seems to me we could have picked up a waiver wire dump with the same skill level for about a mill less AAV.

 

[DJA]

Why needlessly dick around on the waiver wire though with someone who might suck even worse than Prout? We know what we have now, for better or worse. Prout seems to be improving under Torts and sticks up for his mates. Good enough for me.

Our D prospects are terrible and Werenski may not ever play for us, so don't get your panties in a bunch about the signing taking a spot away from a young guy.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Agree with this. It would appear many posters made up their minds about him before he came back and started playing well. I wonder sometimes if people remember that these guys are human and have ups and downs - it's not like players are defined by their ratings and constantly perform at that level like a video game.

One of the deficiencies of the CBJ is their lack of 'weighty' players, and Prout brings that. Plenty of the players are physical and some are big guys, but few combine the two Can't see a problem here. As DJ says, who's going to take that spot? Heatherington is probably the next best thing and he's not ready.

I'm going to reply to this as someone who does not hate Dalton Prout as a player and have always allowed for the possibility that off-ice things can affect on-ice performance.

The team needs to get better. There are not a whole lot of options for a team with a lot of contracts and a lot of tied-up cap space. Prout's contract was up. I guess I hoped that his might be a spot that, somehow, could be improved.

Someone is going to ask how. I admit I'm not really sure. I allowed above the lack of roster flexibility. It's not Prout in a vacuum that I don't like. It's Prout as part of the roster that's currently constructed. Unless Seth Jones doesn't get signed, the six defenders project the same as now. The group isn't good enough.

 

[blahblah]

Agree with this. It would appear many posters made up their minds about him before he came back and started playing well. I wonder sometimes if people remember that these guys are human and have ups and downs - it's not like players are defined by their ratings and constantly perform at that level like a video game.

His playing well isn't all that "well". His ups aren't very far above average and his downs are really low.

In a world in which Jenner gets 2.9 million, Prout at 1.575 is highly laughable.

But whatever. I don't really hate Prout, but he's really not part of any solution.

 

[KlichkoBro*]

Prout is a favorite Torts' pest. His recent aggressiveness comes from coaching staff and they obviously like how he responds to the role.
When White hit Murray in Philly and Prout came in with punishing crosschecks that wasn't his decision. That wasn't a regular change since Murray is a LD and Prout is a RD, he wouldn't have jumped on the ice without an order from Torts.

 

[DJA]

I'm going to reply to this as someone who does not hate Dalton Prout as a player and have always allowed for the possibility that off-ice things can affect on-ice performance.

The team needs to get better. There are not a whole lot of options for a team with a lot of contracts and a lot of tied-up cap space. Prout's contract was up. I guess I hoped that his might be a spot that, somehow, could be improved.

Someone is going to ask how. I admit I'm not really sure. I allowed above the lack of roster flexibility. It's not Prout in a vacuum that I don't like. It's Prout as part of the roster that's currently constructed. Unless Seth Jones doesn't get signed, the six defenders project the same as now. The group isn't good enough.

I think a Johnson or Tyutin trade in the offseason will allow for the needed changes to the group.

 

[Crede777]

I'm going to reply to this as someone who does not hate Dalton Prout as a player and have always allowed for the possibility that off-ice things can affect on-ice performance.

The team needs to get better. There are not a whole lot of options for a team with a lot of contracts and a lot of tied-up cap space. Prout's contract was up. I guess I hoped that his might be a spot that, somehow, could be improved.

Someone is going to ask how. I admit I'm not really sure. I allowed above the lack of roster flexibility. It's not Prout in a vacuum that I don't like. It's Prout as part of the roster that's currently constructed. Unless Seth Jones doesn't get signed, the six defenders project the same as now. The group isn't good enough.

I guess I see that, but to be honest replacing Dalton Prout isn't going to make us all that better. Whoever we get will also be a marginal NHL defensemen next season, even if it's Werenski.

If this team wants to improve, we need better play from Bobrovksy, Johnson, Savard, Foligno, and Dubinsky along with Murray, Jones, and Wennberg to take the next step. Hartnell, Saad, Jenner and Atkinson have been fine.

Barring our "good" players being better and our "young" players taking the next step, this team isn't going to improve. There's no getting around that unless we somehow win the draft lottery. Shuffling our 11th/12th forwards and 6th/7th defensemen won't change much. I would like to see Boll and Prout gone as they may be barometers of where the team is at depth-wise, but they aren't the difference.

 

[Nanabijou]

Kind of indifferent to this. Good for Prout. Seems like a good guy and I like that we have a player that is there to keep the other teams honest.

Bad for Golobeuf, though.

 

[We Want Ten]

Why needlessly dick around on the waiver wire though with someone who might suck even worse than Prout? We know what we have now, for better or worse. Prout seems to be improving under Torts and sticks up for his mates. Good enough for me.

Our D prospects are terrible and Werenski may not ever play for us, so don't get your panties in a bunch about the signing taking a spot away from a young guy.

Is this even possible for a 7? I dunno, I just don't see why he needed to be signed for a penny more than the minimum.

 

[JacketFanInFL]

What a colossal embarrassment.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I think a Johnson or Tyutin trade in the offseason will allow for the needed changes to the group.

I hold out hope that Tyutin can be traded. I don't see another way the defense group can improve other than his being replaced. JJ gets traded maybe helps with money, but I don't really see how the blueline is going to be better without him on it.

Barring our "good" players being better and our "young" players taking the next step, this team isn't going to improve.

OK well I guess I felt like, you know, baby steps or something.

As I said before, the problem isn't necessarily Prout by himself, it's Prout in this group of 6-7.

 

[SuperGenius]

Really? Johnson, Jenner, Foligno, Dubinsky, Hartnell, Boll, Savard aren't weighty in your mind? I think the problem is almost the exact opposite-too many weighty players.

I understand you, and I can even agree with you somewhat. I can't really explain it. All of those guys are 'big' guys, but not all of them play a physical game. If that entire group played like Jenner and Dubinsky, the CBJ would really be punishing people. Hartnell is a disturber and a skilled one at that, but physical is not a word I would use to describe his game. He definitely likes the tough areas, but he's not knocking the puck off someone in the corner all that often. Boll hits the glass more than people - and frankly, Prout at F is probably favorable to Boll at this point. (and I think Boll really made a huge effort to be better this year and it does show at times - but he's just awful a lot of the time)

I was mainly referring to the back end. They look soft to me. It could just be scheme, being out of it, whatever, or the fact they were shell shocked from the first 20 games more than physical ability. Still, I like how Prout fits and believe he brings a physical aspect to the game every game. Savard and to a lesser degree Johnson seem like they need to have a certain level of engagement in a game before they get too physical. Murray and Jones are just young men at this point and need to grow into their bodies and learn