Prospect Info: Prospect Thread (Overseas, College, Junior, etc)

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Andrew Gibson just got traded in the OHL... for 8 draft picks and a player. :oops:

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Molendyk also got traded in the WHL...

 
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I really dont understand how these trades work in the CHL. Is that alot?
Not really, given the late round picks tend to move en masse in a relatively short cycle (teams typically rebuild every 3 or so years, and so the picks just shuffle around like that). They aren't allowed to trade 1st round picks, hence the giant baskets of later round picks instead. This magnitude of pick bundle is not exactly unusual in the OHL. It's still kind of fun to see it listed out like that, though.
 
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Another update...

PLAYERTEAMLEAGUEACQYOBGPGATP/WPIM/L+/- OTL
Yegor Surin (C)Yaroslavl Loko Jr.MHL22/2024200610691588
YaroslavlKHL28415162
Teddy Stiga (C)Boston CollegeNCAA55/2024200623911202012
USA U20WJC-20612301
Viggo Gustaffsson (LD)HV71 J-20Swe-Jr J2077/20242006142101212-1
HV71SHL800020
Timra IKSHL1411200
Sweden U20WJC-207033103
Miguel Marques (RW)LethbridgeWHL87/2024200625112233287
Hiroki Gojsic (RW)KelownaWHL94/202420063813122536-11
Jakub Milota (G)Cape BretonQMJHL99/20242006283.04.90813104
Viktor Norringer (LW)Vastra Frolunda Jr.Swe-Jr J20127/20242006301725421616
Vastra FrolundaSHL1100042
Erik Pahlsson (C)U.MinnesotaNCAA213/20242004182111369
Matthew Wood (RW/C)U.MinnesotaNCAA15/2023200527918271216
Tanner Molendyk (LD)Sask/Med.HatWHL24/202320053152530125
Canada U20WJC-20502241
David Edstrom (C)Frolunda HCSHL32/2023200527491367
Sweden U20WJC-20742603
Andrew Gibson (RD)Soo/OshawaOHL42/20232005335611407
Canada U20WJC-20500081
Felix Nilsson (LW)Rogle BKSHL43/20232005274131703
IK OskarshamnSWE-251010-1
Sweden U20WJC-20715626
Kalan Lind (LW/C)Red DeerWHL46/202317471126-8
Dylan MacKinnon (RD)MonctonQMJHL83/2023200541224609
Joey Willis (C)Saginaw/KingstonOHL111/2023200534212142324
USA U20WJC-20202223
Juha Jatkola (G)KalPaSM-Liiga121/20232002202.35.890776
Sutter Muzzatti (LW)R.P.I.NCAA143/20232003102138-7
Austin Roest (C)Everett/Milwaukee?WHL175/20232004Inj
Aiden Fink (RW)Penn St. UNCAA218/2023200424161834610
Adam Ingram (C)St. Cloud StateNCAA82/202220032023510-2
Kasper Kulonummi (RD)Kiekko-EspooSM-Liiga84/20222004375101514-2
Cole O'Hara (RW)UMass-AmherstNCAA114/2022200225142034810
Ben Strinden (RW)U. North DakotaNCAA210/202220022343763
Anton Olsson (LD)LukkoSM-Liiga72/20212003444711182
Simon Knak (LW)Davos HCSwiss-A179/2021200238841286
**Luke Reid (RD)U. New HampshireNCAA166/2020200123191045
**Gunnarwolfe Fontaine (LW)Ohio St.NCAA202/202020002512152766
**Chase McLane (C/RW)Colorado Coll.NCAA209/202020002053866
Semyon Chistyakov (LD)Avangard OmskKHL117/20192001491414281014
Isak Walther (RW)U. VermontH-East179/201920012355108-2
Vladislav Yeryomenko (RD)MagnitogorskKHL151/2018199934358144
Konstantin Volkov (G)KunlunKHL168/2016199774.84.832050
Lada TogliattiKHL22.90.893010

** = rights would have expired August 15 but apparently we retained due to Covid exception?
 
Another update...

PLAYERTEAMLEAGUEACQYOBGPGATP/WPIM/L+/- OTL
Yegor Surin (C)Yaroslavl Loko Jr.MHL22/2024200610691588
YaroslavlKHL28415162
Teddy Stiga (C)Boston CollegeNCAA55/2024200623911202012
USA U20WJC-20612301
Viggo Gustaffsson (LD)HV71 J-20Swe-Jr J2077/20242006142101212-1
HV71SHL800020
Timra IKSHL1411200
Sweden U20WJC-207033103
Miguel Marques (RW)LethbridgeWHL87/2024200625112233287
Hiroki Gojsic (RW)KelownaWHL94/202420063813122536-11
Jakub Milota (G)Cape BretonQMJHL99/20242006283.04.90813104
Viktor Norringer (LW)Vastra Frolunda Jr.Swe-Jr J20127/20242006301725421616
Vastra FrolundaSHL1100042
Erik Pahlsson (C)U.MinnesotaNCAA213/20242004182111369
Matthew Wood (RW/C)U.MinnesotaNCAA15/2023200527918271216
Tanner Molendyk (LD)Sask/Med.HatWHL24/202320053152530125
Canada U20WJC-20502241
David Edstrom (C)Frolunda HCSHL32/2023200527491367
Sweden U20WJC-20742603
Andrew Gibson (RD)Soo/OshawaOHL42/20232005335611407
Canada U20WJC-20500081
Felix Nilsson (LW)Rogle BKSHL43/20232005274131703
IK OskarshamnSWE-251010-1
Sweden U20WJC-20715626
Kalan Lind (LW/C)Red DeerWHL46/202317471126-8
Dylan MacKinnon (RD)MonctonQMJHL83/2023200541224609
Joey Willis (C)Saginaw/KingstonOHL111/2023200534212142324
USA U20WJC-20202223
Juha Jatkola (G)KalPaSM-Liiga121/20232002202.35.890776
Sutter Muzzatti (LW)R.P.I.NCAA143/20232003102138-7
Austin Roest (C)Everett/Milwaukee?WHL175/20232004Inj
Aiden Fink (RW)Penn St. UNCAA218/2023200424161834610
Adam Ingram (C)St. Cloud StateNCAA82/202220032023510-2
Kasper Kulonummi (RD)Kiekko-EspooSM-Liiga84/20222004375101514-2
Cole O'Hara (RW)UMass-AmherstNCAA114/2022200225142034810
Ben Strinden (RW)U. North DakotaNCAA210/202220022343763
Anton Olsson (LD)LukkoSM-Liiga72/20212003444711182
Simon Knak (LW)Davos HCSwiss-A179/2021200238841286
**Luke Reid (RD)U. New HampshireNCAA166/2020200123191045
**Gunnarwolfe Fontaine (LW)Ohio St.NCAA202/202020002512152766
**Chase McLane (C/RW)Colorado Coll.NCAA209/202020002053866
Semyon Chistyakov (LD)Avangard OmskKHL117/20192001491414281014
Isak Walther (RW)U. VermontH-East179/201920012355108-2
Vladislav Yeryomenko (RD)MagnitogorskKHL151/2018199934358144
Konstantin Volkov (G)KunlunKHL168/2016199774.84.832050
Lada TogliattiKHL22.90.893010

** = rights would have expired August 15 but apparently we retained due to Covid exception?
-I know nothing about O'Hara, Norringer, and Willis, but they seem to be putting up some good. numbers.
-Great to see Wood rebound somewhat.
-Go Fink!
 
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-I know nothing about O'Hara, Norringer, and Willis, but they seem to be putting up some good. numbers.
-Great to see Wood rebound somewhat.
-Go Fink!
I maintain that 1 PPG for Wood on a powerhouse team surrounded by much more talent actually represents a regression for him. He had much higher points&goals shares on his old team. Players with his draft pedigree rarely even play a 3rd year in the NCAA. Let alone stand pat at 1 ppg. Granted, he did start younger than most. But still. He should have numbers more like O'Hara/Fink's, something in the 1.5ppg realm preferably. :dunno:
 
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I maintain that 1 PPG for Wood on a powerhouse team surrounded by much more talent actually represents a regression for him. He had much higher points&goals shares on his old team. Players with his draft pedigree rarely even play a 3rd year in the NCAA. Let alone stand pat at 1 ppg. Granted, he did start younger than most. But still. He should have numbers more like O'Hara/Fink's, something in the 1.5ppg realm preferably. :dunno:
Yeah, it's not ideal. Still though, I thought he was falling off a cliff last year. At least he's maintaining good stats on one of the league's premier teams (elite competition). Really want to see him in Milwaukee soon.
 
Yeah, it's not ideal. Still though, I thought he was falling off a cliff last year. At least he's maintaining good stats on one of the league's premier teams (elite competition). Really want to see him in Milwaukee soon.
I wonder what they are thinking about that. Normally you would expect a #15 overall draft pick to sign before playing his senior year. But given Wood is only about to turn 20 next week, I could see them letting him go back to Minnesota next season? :dunno:

Anyway, I guess there are going to be a lot of factors involved in that decision, how satisfied both sides are with the training/development there, his educational situation, etc. So who knows. But normally a guy with his draft pedigree would be signing as soon as his season ends. And maybe trying to get a game or two in with the Preds at the end of this season. That's probably what's going to happen with his teammate Snuggerud, who is also in his junior season. I'm not sure Wood's situation is going to be "normal", however. :dunno:
 
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I wonder what they are thinking about that. Normally you would expect a #15 overall draft pick to sign before playing his senior year. But given Wood is only about to turn 20 next week, I could see them letting him go back to Minnesota next season? :dunno:

Anyway, I guess there are going to be a lot of factors involved in that decision, how satisfied both sides are with the training/development there, his educational situation, etc. So who knows. But normally a guy with his draft pedigree would be signing as soon as his season ends. And maybe trying to get a game or two in with the Preds at the end of this season. That's probably what's going to happen with his teammate Snuggerud, who is also in his junior season. I'm not sure Wood's situation is going to be "normal", however. :dunno:
This is a case where it seems better to let him "overcook" a little. He is young compared to most college kids, why start his contract and burn a year so early? Let him develop a little more and grow into his adult body before forcing him into an adult league he may not be ready for. It's not like rushing him will help the Preds this year or next.
 
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This is a case where it seems better to let him "overcook" a little. He is young compared to most college kids, why start his contract and burn a year so early? Let him develop a little more and grow into his adult body before forcing him into an adult league he may not be ready for. It's not like rushing him will help the Preds this year or next.
Risk is if he goes back for senior year you walk him right to UFA. I'd rather sign him and let him play next year in Milwaukee.
 
Risk is if he goes back for senior year you walk him right to UFA. I'd rather sign him and let him play next year in Milwaukee.
Yeah, these are the risks when the player is the one who wants to go pro and start making his $$$. They have that leverage. Fabbro, Ufko, Del Gaizo all came out after their junior seasons. We were still able to get Stastney and Farrance after their senior years. Or some like Novak, Campbell, and Haider have even gone the AHL-deal route with us after their senior seasons. So it's quite a mixed bag. But worth emphasizing that the Vesey case is very much a rare exception. I wouldn't panic at all if Wood plays his senior season in Minnesota... likelihood is he'll still want to go pro, get money, play an NHL game or two at the end of next season, rather than wait until August 15th to go UFA. Signing in the spring is still the more common route even for those who do play out their senior years.
 
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Yeah, these are the risks when the player is the one who wants to go pro and start making his $$$. They have that leverage. Fabbro, Ufko, Del Gaizo all came out after their junior seasons. We were still able to get Stastney and Farrance after their senior years. Or some like Novak, Campbell, and Haider have even gone the AHL-deal route with us after their senior seasons. So it's quite a mixed bag. But worth emphasizing that the Vesey case is very much a rare exception. I wouldn't panic at all if Wood plays his senior season in Minnesota... likelihood is he'll still want to go pro, get money, play an NHL game or two at the end of next season, rather than wait until August 15th to go UFA. Signing in the spring is still the more common route even for those who do play out their senior years.
True, but why risk it? AHL is strong development league. It's not like he is tiny, he is big guy. He should be able ot hold his own there. He needs to improve his skating and his pace of play, but if 3 years in college haven't moved the needle no reason to think 4th will. Get him with our staff and work on getting him to the level we need him to be. And if our guys can't help him do that, we need to find better development guys.
 
Scott Wheeler at The Athletic has been doing a countodwn of 2025 prospect pool rankings. We just showed up yesterday at #8:
The Predators are a difficult team to slot because their top prospect is probably the least exciting among the top 10 pools in the league, but they’re also the only team in the league with nine first-round picks in their pool. Add in some depth into the teens in terms of quantity, as well as the additions of David Edstrom and Yegor Surin to help offset the losses of Yaroslav Askarov and Philip Tomasino and it’s a strong pool even if it doesn’t have one of the big, big names.

2024 prospect pool rank: No. 8 (change: none)

Top 5: Molendyk, Wood, Edstrom, L'Heureux, Svechkov.
 
Its amazing. We have 2 players in a 4 way tie in the NCAA points per game lead. O' Hara will likely end the season with more goals than total points last season. I dont know what happened to him but that is a major step. Fink was a point per game in his 1st NCAA season and has still managed to up his game this season. Excited to see what next season brings for both.

Wood went to a better team and will end up around a point per game like his freshman year.

Stiga also having himself a freshman year. The college crew looks pretty good.
 
I don't know the first thing about O'Hara...might be time to read up and watch some highlights. I can't even tell you what he does well or what type of player he is.
Yeah, it looks like his stats were fairly non-descript in his D and D+1 seasons, leading to not getting drafted either year? Then in D+2 he had a pretty good year in his final junior season in the USHL, albeit on a really stacked Tri-City team, so I don't know if many people would have read too much into that production? The Preds read enough into it that they drafted him, though. But he was already "late-blooming" in junior... before now "late-blooming" again in college? :dunno:

What else from the stats page... mid-size (6-0/185) RW...

UMass has a smattering of other NHL-drafted prospects... but it's interesting to note that the next-highest scorer to O'Hara's 45 pts is Aydar Suniev at just 30 pts. So it's not like O'Hara is being "carried" by some other big-name prospect having a huge year. He's The Man there, significantly outscoring everybody else on his team.

What else? I see he was drafted in the 10th round in both USHL and OHL drafts, so definitely not seen as a very serious prospect coming out of minor hockey. Taking the "slow boat" from Toronto to playing Jr A hockey, then the USHL, and now 3 years of NCAA... he turns 23 this summer. In his actual draft year in 2020 Central Scouting ranked him #170 in NA... which is basically a typical "not drafted" ranking once you sprinkle in all the Europeans and goalies. And so it was.

We'll take this season's huge jump, of course and be intrigued. It's not super common for this to lead to anything with that pedigree, but good for him, he has at least worked his way to a pro contract, you'd have to think. Let's see where he goes next... :crossfing
 

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