Prospect Info: Prospect Thread (Overseas, College, Junior, etc)

[Soundgarden]

Molendyk named alternate captain for Canada.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Andrew Gibson just got traded in the OHL... for 8 draft picks and a player.

Generals acquire Predators prospect Andrew Gibson from Greyhounds - Ontario Hockey League

The Oshawa Generals added Nashville Predators prospect Andrew Gibson to their blueline on Tuesday.

chl.ca

Molendyk also got traded in the WHL...

Saskatoon Blades move star Molendyk to Medicine Hat in 9-piece blockbuster trade - Saskatoon | Globalnews.ca

A seismic trade has sent Saskatoon Blades star defenceman Tanner Molendyk west to join the Medicine Hat Tigers as part of a nine-piece deal ahead of the WHL trade deadline.

globalnews.ca

 

[herzausstein]

I really dont understand how these trades work in the CHL. Is that alot?

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

I really dont understand how these trades work in the CHL. Is that alot?

Not really, given the late round picks tend to move en masse in a relatively short cycle (teams typically rebuild every 3 or so years, and so the picks just shuffle around like that). They aren't allowed to trade 1st round picks, hence the giant baskets of later round picks instead. This magnitude of pick bundle is not exactly unusual in the OHL. It's still kind of fun to see it listed out like that, though.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Another update...

PLAYER	TEAM	LEAGUE	ACQ	YOB	GP	G	A	TP/W	PIM/L	+/- OTL
Yegor Surin (C)	Yaroslavl Loko Jr.	MHL	22/2024	2006	10	6	9	15	8	8
	Yaroslavl	KHL			28	4	1	5	16	2
Teddy Stiga (C)	Boston College	NCAA	55/2024	2006	23	9	11	20	20	12
	USA U20	WJC-20			6	1	2	3	0	1
Viggo Gustaffsson (LD)	HV71 J-20	Swe-Jr J20	77/2024	2006	14	2	10	12	12	-1
	HV71	SHL			8	0	0	0	2	0
	Timra IK	SHL			14	1	1	2	0	0
	Sweden U20	WJC-20			7	0	3	3	10	3
Miguel Marques (RW)	Lethbridge	WHL	87/2024	2006	25	11	22	33	28	7
Hiroki Gojsic (RW)	Kelowna	WHL	94/2024	2006	38	13	12	25	36	-11
Jakub Milota (G)	Cape Breton	QMJHL	99/2024	2006	28	3.04	.908	13	10	4
Viktor Norringer (LW)	Vastra Frolunda Jr.	Swe-Jr J20	127/2024	2006	30	17	25	42	16	16
	Vastra Frolunda	SHL			11	0	0	0	4	2
Erik Pahlsson (C)	U.Minnesota	NCAA	213/2024	2004	18	2	11	13	6	9
Matthew Wood (RW/C)	U.Minnesota	NCAA	15/2023	2005	27	9	18	27	12	16
Tanner Molendyk (LD)	Sask/Med.Hat	WHL	24/2023	2005	31	5	25	30	12	5
	Canada U20	WJC-20			5	0	2	2	4	1
David Edstrom (C)	Frolunda HC	SHL	32/2023	2005	27	4	9	13	6	7
	Sweden U20	WJC-20			7	4	2	6	0	3
Andrew Gibson (RD)	Soo/Oshawa	OHL	42/2023	2005	33	5	6	11	40	7
	Canada U20	WJC-20			5	0	0	0	8	1
Felix Nilsson (LW)	Rogle BK	SHL	43/2023	2005	27	4	13	17	0	3
	IK Oskarshamn	SWE-2			5	1	0	1	0	-1
	Sweden U20	WJC-20			7	1	5	6	2	6
Kalan Lind (LW/C)	Red Deer	WHL	46/2023		17	4	7	11	26	-8
Dylan MacKinnon (RD)	Moncton	QMJHL	83/2023	2005	41	2	2	4	60	9
Joey Willis (C)	Saginaw/Kingston	OHL	111/2023	2005	34	21	21	42	32	4
	USA U20	WJC-20			2	0	2	2	2	3
Juha Jatkola (G)	KalPa	SM-Liiga	121/2023	2002	20	2.35	.890	7	7	6
Sutter Muzzatti (LW)	R.P.I.	NCAA	143/2023	2003	10	2	1	3	8	-7
Austin Roest (C)	Everett/Milwaukee?	WHL	175/2023	2004	Inj
Aiden Fink (RW)	Penn St. U	NCAA	218/2023	2004	24	16	18	34	6	10
Adam Ingram (C)	St. Cloud State	NCAA	82/2022	2003	20	2	3	5	10	-2
Kasper Kulonummi (RD)	Kiekko-Espoo	SM-Liiga	84/2022	2004	37	5	10	15	14	-2
Cole O'Hara (RW)	UMass-Amherst	NCAA	114/2022	2002	25	14	20	34	8	10
Ben Strinden (RW)	U. North Dakota	NCAA	210/2022	2002	23	4	3	7	6	3
Anton Olsson (LD)	Lukko	SM-Liiga	72/2021	2003	44	4	7	11	18	2
Simon Knak (LW)	Davos HC	Swiss-A	179/2021	2002	38	8	4	12	8	6
**Luke Reid (RD)	U. New Hampshire	NCAA	166/2020	2001	23	1	9	10	4	5
**Gunnarwolfe Fontaine (LW)	Ohio St.	NCAA	202/2020	2000	25	12	15	27	6	6
**Chase McLane (C/RW)	Colorado Coll.	NCAA	209/2020	2000	20	5	3	8	6	6
Semyon Chistyakov (LD)	Avangard Omsk	KHL	117/2019	2001	49	14	14	28	10	14
Isak Walther (RW)	U. Vermont	H-East	179/2019	2001	23	5	5	10	8	-2
Vladislav Yeryomenko (RD)	Magnitogorsk	KHL	151/2018	1999	34	3	5	8	14	4
Konstantin Volkov (G)	Kunlun	KHL	168/2016	1997	7	4.84	.832	0	5	0
	Lada Togliatti	KHL			2	2.90	.893	0	1	0

** = rights would have expired August 15 but apparently we retained due to Covid exception?

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Another update...

PLAYER	TEAM	LEAGUE	ACQ	YOB	GP	G	A	TP/W	PIM/L	+/- OTL
Yegor Surin (C)	Yaroslavl Loko Jr.	MHL	22/2024	2006	10	6	9	15	8	8
	Yaroslavl	KHL			28	4	1	5	16	2
Teddy Stiga (C)	Boston College	NCAA	55/2024	2006	23	9	11	20	20	12
	USA U20	WJC-20			6	1	2	3	0	1
Viggo Gustaffsson (LD)	HV71 J-20	Swe-Jr J20	77/2024	2006	14	2	10	12	12	-1
	HV71	SHL			8	0	0	0	2	0
	Timra IK	SHL			14	1	1	2	0	0
	Sweden U20	WJC-20			7	0	3	3	10	3
Miguel Marques (RW)	Lethbridge	WHL	87/2024	2006	25	11	22	33	28	7
Hiroki Gojsic (RW)	Kelowna	WHL	94/2024	2006	38	13	12	25	36	-11
Jakub Milota (G)	Cape Breton	QMJHL	99/2024	2006	28	3.04	.908	13	10	4
Viktor Norringer (LW)	Vastra Frolunda Jr.	Swe-Jr J20	127/2024	2006	30	17	25	42	16	16
	Vastra Frolunda	SHL			11	0	0	0	4	2
Erik Pahlsson (C)	U.Minnesota	NCAA	213/2024	2004	18	2	11	13	6	9
Matthew Wood (RW/C)	U.Minnesota	NCAA	15/2023	2005	27	9	18	27	12	16
Tanner Molendyk (LD)	Sask/Med.Hat	WHL	24/2023	2005	31	5	25	30	12	5
	Canada U20	WJC-20			5	0	2	2	4	1
David Edstrom (C)	Frolunda HC	SHL	32/2023	2005	27	4	9	13	6	7
	Sweden U20	WJC-20			7	4	2	6	0	3
Andrew Gibson (RD)	Soo/Oshawa	OHL	42/2023	2005	33	5	6	11	40	7
	Canada U20	WJC-20			5	0	0	0	8	1
Felix Nilsson (LW)	Rogle BK	SHL	43/2023	2005	27	4	13	17	0	3
	IK Oskarshamn	SWE-2			5	1	0	1	0	-1
	Sweden U20	WJC-20			7	1	5	6	2	6
Kalan Lind (LW/C)	Red Deer	WHL	46/2023		17	4	7	11	26	-8
Dylan MacKinnon (RD)	Moncton	QMJHL	83/2023	2005	41	2	2	4	60	9
Joey Willis (C)	Saginaw/Kingston	OHL	111/2023	2005	34	21	21	42	32	4
	USA U20	WJC-20			2	0	2	2	2	3
Juha Jatkola (G)	KalPa	SM-Liiga	121/2023	2002	20	2.35	.890	7	7	6
Sutter Muzzatti (LW)	R.P.I.	NCAA	143/2023	2003	10	2	1	3	8	-7
Austin Roest (C)	Everett/Milwaukee?	WHL	175/2023	2004	Inj
Aiden Fink (RW)	Penn St. U	NCAA	218/2023	2004	24	16	18	34	6	10
Adam Ingram (C)	St. Cloud State	NCAA	82/2022	2003	20	2	3	5	10	-2
Kasper Kulonummi (RD)	Kiekko-Espoo	SM-Liiga	84/2022	2004	37	5	10	15	14	-2
Cole O'Hara (RW)	UMass-Amherst	NCAA	114/2022	2002	25	14	20	34	8	10
Ben Strinden (RW)	U. North Dakota	NCAA	210/2022	2002	23	4	3	7	6	3
Anton Olsson (LD)	Lukko	SM-Liiga	72/2021	2003	44	4	7	11	18	2
Simon Knak (LW)	Davos HC	Swiss-A	179/2021	2002	38	8	4	12	8	6
**Luke Reid (RD)	U. New Hampshire	NCAA	166/2020	2001	23	1	9	10	4	5
**Gunnarwolfe Fontaine (LW)	Ohio St.	NCAA	202/2020	2000	25	12	15	27	6	6
**Chase McLane (C/RW)	Colorado Coll.	NCAA	209/2020	2000	20	5	3	8	6	6
Semyon Chistyakov (LD)	Avangard Omsk	KHL	117/2019	2001	49	14	14	28	10	14
Isak Walther (RW)	U. Vermont	H-East	179/2019	2001	23	5	5	10	8	-2
Vladislav Yeryomenko (RD)	Magnitogorsk	KHL	151/2018	1999	34	3	5	8	14	4
Konstantin Volkov (G)	Kunlun	KHL	168/2016	1997	7	4.84	.832	0	5	0
	Lada Togliatti	KHL			2	2.90	.893	0	1	0

** = rights would have expired August 15 but apparently we retained due to Covid exception?

-I know nothing about O'Hara, Norringer, and Willis, but they seem to be putting up some good. numbers.
-Great to see Wood rebound somewhat.
-Go Fink!

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

-I know nothing about O'Hara, Norringer, and Willis, but they seem to be putting up some good. numbers.
-Great to see Wood rebound somewhat.
-Go Fink!

I maintain that 1 PPG for Wood on a powerhouse team surrounded by much more talent actually represents a regression for him. He had much higher points&goals shares on his old team. Players with his draft pedigree rarely even play a 3rd year in the NCAA. Let alone stand pat at 1 ppg. Granted, he did start younger than most. But still. He should have numbers more like O'Hara/Fink's, something in the 1.5ppg realm preferably.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

I maintain that 1 PPG for Wood on a powerhouse team surrounded by much more talent actually represents a regression for him. He had much higher points&goals shares on his old team. Players with his draft pedigree rarely even play a 3rd year in the NCAA. Let alone stand pat at 1 ppg. Granted, he did start younger than most. But still. He should have numbers more like O'Hara/Fink's, something in the 1.5ppg realm preferably.

Yeah, it's not ideal. Still though, I thought he was falling off a cliff last year. At least he's maintaining good stats on one of the league's premier teams (elite competition). Really want to see him in Milwaukee soon.

 

[AintLifeGrand]

 

[Flgatorguy87]

View attachment 970422

What does Fink look like in the NHL, what's his comparable play style?

 

[PredsV82]

What does Fink look like in the NHL, what's his comparable play style?

Darren Haydar.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Yeah, it's not ideal. Still though, I thought he was falling off a cliff last year. At least he's maintaining good stats on one of the league's premier teams (elite competition). Really want to see him in Milwaukee soon.

I wonder what they are thinking about that. Normally you would expect a #15 overall draft pick to sign before playing his senior year. But given Wood is only about to turn 20 next week, I could see them letting him go back to Minnesota next season?

Anyway, I guess there are going to be a lot of factors involved in that decision, how satisfied both sides are with the training/development there, his educational situation, etc. So who knows. But normally a guy with his draft pedigree would be signing as soon as his season ends. And maybe trying to get a game or two in with the Preds at the end of this season. That's probably what's going to happen with his teammate Snuggerud, who is also in his junior season. I'm not sure Wood's situation is going to be "normal", however.

 

[nine_inch_fang]

I wonder what they are thinking about that. Normally you would expect a #15 overall draft pick to sign before playing his senior year. But given Wood is only about to turn 20 next week, I could see them letting him go back to Minnesota next season?

Anyway, I guess there are going to be a lot of factors involved in that decision, how satisfied both sides are with the training/development there, his educational situation, etc. So who knows. But normally a guy with his draft pedigree would be signing as soon as his season ends. And maybe trying to get a game or two in with the Preds at the end of this season. That's probably what's going to happen with his teammate Snuggerud, who is also in his junior season. I'm not sure Wood's situation is going to be "normal", however.

This is a case where it seems better to let him "overcook" a little. He is young compared to most college kids, why start his contract and burn a year so early? Let him develop a little more and grow into his adult body before forcing him into an adult league he may not be ready for. It's not like rushing him will help the Preds this year or next.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

This is a case where it seems better to let him "overcook" a little. He is young compared to most college kids, why start his contract and burn a year so early? Let him develop a little more and grow into his adult body before forcing him into an adult league he may not be ready for. It's not like rushing him will help the Preds this year or next.

Risk is if he goes back for senior year you walk him right to UFA. I'd rather sign him and let him play next year in Milwaukee.

 

[Porter Stoutheart]

Risk is if he goes back for senior year you walk him right to UFA. I'd rather sign him and let him play next year in Milwaukee.

Yeah, these are the risks when the player is the one who wants to go pro and start making his $$$. They have that leverage. Fabbro, Ufko, Del Gaizo all came out after their junior seasons. We were still able to get Stastney and Farrance after their senior years. Or some like Novak, Campbell, and Haider have even gone the AHL-deal route with us after their senior seasons. So it's quite a mixed bag. But worth emphasizing that the Vesey case is very much a rare exception. I wouldn't panic at all if Wood plays his senior season in Minnesota... likelihood is he'll still want to go pro, get money, play an NHL game or two at the end of next season, rather than wait until August 15th to go UFA. Signing in the spring is still the more common route even for those who do play out their senior years.

 

[Bye Bye Blueston]

Yeah, these are the risks when the player is the one who wants to go pro and start making his $$$. They have that leverage. Fabbro, Ufko, Del Gaizo all came out after their junior seasons. We were still able to get Stastney and Farrance after their senior years. Or some like Novak, Campbell, and Haider have even gone the AHL-deal route with us after their senior seasons. So it's quite a mixed bag. But worth emphasizing that the Vesey case is very much a rare exception. I wouldn't panic at all if Wood plays his senior season in Minnesota... likelihood is he'll still want to go pro, get money, play an NHL game or two at the end of next season, rather than wait until August 15th to go UFA. Signing in the spring is still the more common route even for those who do play out their senior years.

True, but why risk it? AHL is strong development league. It's not like he is tiny, he is big guy. He should be able ot hold his own there. He needs to improve his skating and his pace of play, but if 3 years in college haven't moved the needle no reason to think 4th will. Get him with our staff and work on getting him to the level we need him to be. And if our guys can't help him do that, we need to find better development guys.