Prospect Info: Prospect Rating #3 (2024 Version) - NOTICE: please change your vote to Pickering or Koivunen

[eXile3]

Once again. Look at the league that Koivunen is "dominating".

It's no longer producing NHLers outside of 1st round picks and even then the high end 1st rounders from Finland have largely been disappointments in the last 5-6 years.

It's a veteran laden league for people who can't cut it in the AHL or want to play at home.

Success in the WHL is much more predictive to success in the NHL.

Outside of the 1st round picks since Puustinen's draft year. Puustinen is 3rd in points for Finnish drafted players.

Yeah it’s the same with the KHL with me. One of the stat shot books had a pretty good matrix on how scoring translated from different leagues but things have changed so much it’s hard to equate production.

 

[Gurglesons]

Yeah it’s the same with the KHL with me. One of the stat shot books had a pretty good matrix on how scoring translated from different leagues but things have changed so much it’s hard to equate production.

At least we have several examples of KHL players coming over with pedigree and dominating in similar ways to watch was expected

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

I think it's still Pickering for me. Important year coming up for him tho.

 

[Gurglesons]

I think it's still Pickering for me. Important year coming up for him tho.

I think he's going to surprise some people who have given up on him as a prospect around here for some weird reason.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I think it's still Pickering for me. Important year coming up for him tho.

Agree. I voted for him here but he could easily drop a lot for me with a poor season.

 

[steelcityassault]

Going off of how they fit into a Sullivan system it could be Howe. You could have a Sprong-type talent and it's not gonna work here as we know

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Agree. I voted for him here but he could easily drop a lot for me with a poor season.

I expect some growing pains over a first full pro season. But it's more like.... are there flashes of good to go along with any bad? How does his 2nd half look compared to his 1st after he's had some time to acclimate -- does he peter out or improve?

 

[SEALBound]

May I just say, before we get too far, how nice it is to have a decent crop of prospects to vote on?

Totally new concept for us. Been a fast minute since we've discussed such.

 

[DearDiary]

The Pens 3rd best prospect is Ilyan, but I had to change my vote to Koivunen when I saw the results.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

May I just say, before we get too far, how nice it is to have a decent crop of prospects to vote on?

Totally new concept for us. Been a fast minute since we've discussed such.

I was just about to say the same, thanks to the Jake trade we at least have Koivunen and Pono that come into the mix here as solid prospects

The Pens 3rd best prospect is Ilyan, but I had to change my vote to Koivunen when I saw the results.

He is definitely the most intriguing one for me that's for sure! Ilyin, Murashov and Swanson will have my attention this upcoming season that's for sure!!

 

[Ulf5]

I was just about to say the same, thanks to the Jake trade we at least have Koivunen and Pono that come into the mix here as solid prospects


He is definitely the most intriguing one for me that's for sure! Ilyin, Murashov and Swanson will have my attention this upcoming season that's for sure!!

I think Murashov has the highest ceiling out of all of them. But time will tell.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

I’ve been riding the Murashov hype train for a couple years now. I think he’s legit

Pickering is a lot less intriguing to me now than he was a year ago. His production did not improve upon his d+1 year. And the fact he still hasn’t even gotten close to PPG in junior does not bode well. He drops probably below Koivunen and Ilyn for me.

 

[Turin]

Ilyin and Murashov could very well both be top 3, but we just don't know enough yet.

 

[Gurglesons]

Ilyin and Murashov could very well both be top 3, but we just don't know enough yet.

I think we know enough with Murashov.

The Russian goaltending pipeline is pretty substantial at this point. Murashov's biggest question mark is his size.

Not sure why anyone would consider Ilyin close to a top 3 prospect.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

To avoid a runoff poll, please consider changing your vote to one of Pickering or Koivunen.

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[Andy99]

To avoid a runoff poll, please consider changing your vote to one of Pickering or Koivunen.

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I did but not happy about it lol

 

[Jacob]

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Went with Koivunen then.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I did but not happy about it lol

Thank you for your sacrifice.

 

[Gurglesons]

I did but not happy about it lol

Didn't realize you could be happy.

 

[deakka]

Switched to Koivunen

 

[Ugene Magic]

Ilyin and Murashov could very well both be top 3, but we just don't know enough yet.

The fact neither are under contract deters me.

 

[PenguinSuitedUp]

Updated my vote to Pickering.

 

[Al Smith]

To avoid a runoff poll, please consider changing your vote to one of Pickering or Koivunen.

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Changed to koivunen. Frankly, you could just lump most of our forward prospects after Yager into a single group and rate them as “meh” or “hard to get too excited about”.

 

[Ogelthorpe]

Went with Murashov. Granted it is based on more limited sample size, but he has been impressive in what little I have seen…. Also, Russia has been producing such impressive goaltenders in the past 15ish years…. Hoping he’s the next great one.

 

[Gurglesons]

Went with Murashov. Granted it is based on more limited sample size, but he has been impressive in what little I have seen…. Also, Russia has been producing such impressive goaltenders in the past 15ish years…. Hoping he’s the next great one.

Physical size is a concern in the NHL. But something about the kid gives me the vibes.

It’s gonna be funny when Sid and Malkin retire and we have two star goaltenders in Flower and Murashov not allowing us to tank.