Oil In My Veins
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Does anyone know how Brossoit has been doing lately? I thought I heard he was having a pretty good showing for awhile there but haven't heard anything the last little bit.
Proposal: Proposals Thread: Fix this broken club
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Does anyone know how Brossoit has been doing lately? I thought I heard he was having a pretty good showing for awhile there but haven't heard anything the last little bit.
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=118258
Seems to be lighitng it up in the ECHL. Mediocre in the AHL. Hopefully he gets a full year in the AHL next season. Getting bounced around is not good for goalies confidence. We all know how weird tenders are.
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Really hope we sign Holmberg. Probably not going to be an NHL player but he would add scoring to OKC.
Raab
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I still don't see why some of you guys hate the Yakupov+Klefbom for Johnson+Foligno deal. Foligno would complement our top 6 quite nicely and Johnson is a top pairing dman on a playoff team. Both players are under 28 and in there primes right now. The way I see it if we make this deal Klefbom is basically forced out anyway and I don't see the upside some of you see in the guy. On top of that were sending out Yakupov who has a ton of questions about his game. I have a hard time seeing Columbus accepting that deal right now, but heres what our roster would look like. Arguably the best roster we've had since 2006.
Hall-Gagner-Perron
Foligno-RNH-Eberle
UFA-Gordon-Hendricks(UFA)
Gazdic-Smyth/Hendricks-Pitlick
Johnson-Petry
Marincin-Schultz
Ference-UFA(Greene,Morris,etc..)
UFA/Fedun
Scrivens
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Foligno brings everything were looking for to the top 6, and Johnson while not the greatest dman ever is paid reasonably well at 4.3M and vastly improves our defensive depth.
Hall-Gagner-Perron
Foligno-RNH-Eberle
UFA-Gordon-Hendricks(UFA)
Gazdic-Smyth/Hendricks-Pitlick
Johnson-Petry
Marincin-Schultz
Ference-UFA(Greene,Morris,etc..)
UFA/Fedun
Scrivens
Fasth
Foligno brings everything were looking for to the top 6, and Johnson while not the greatest dman ever is paid reasonably well at 4.3M and vastly improves our defensive depth.
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Oil In My Veins
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Because Foligno and Johnson just aren't that good. Not 1st overall pick and 2nd best prospect good. For that price, you'd better be getting more than a soon-to-be 27-year-old winger who might score 20 goals for the first time this season (on the back of an 18% shooting percentage) and a low-end top-pairing D. Not to mention, Foligno only has one more year left on his contract. If he doesn't re-sign and you're left with Jack Johnson in exchange for Nail Yakupov and Oscar Klefbom, you've pretty much thrown away the value that the rebuild was supposed to create. Unless Johnson becomes Pronger of course, but that's not likely.
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Ok, this time I'll try without trading Hall away so people don't freak out.
Trade Eberle+Lander for Anisimov+Jenner.
Hopefully draft Ekblad.
Trade Gagner (33% retained) for Glenncross.
Trade Marincin+EDM 2nd 2015 for Boychuk.
Trade Petry for DSP.
Sign Kulemin, 3yrs, 10mil (3.33 per).
Sign Markov, 3yrs, 19mil (6.33 per).
Hall-Nuge-Perron
Kulemin-Anisimov-Yak
Glenncross-Gordon-Jenner
Gazdic-Hendricks-DSP
Arco, Pitlick
Markov-Ekblad
Ference-Boychuk
Klefbom-J Schultz
??? (Don't know if 7th D should be vet off scrap heap or Fedun)
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D is improved, better size and physicality in both the top 6 and bottom 6. 2 defensively responsible fellow countrymen for Yak's line mates, as well as Markov as a mentor/role model. Breaks up Hall and Ebs which hopefully results in a Hall focusing on hockey more and growing up. Playoff bound IMO.
Trade Eberle+Lander for Anisimov+Jenner.
Hopefully draft Ekblad.
Trade Gagner (33% retained) for Glenncross.
Trade Marincin+EDM 2nd 2015 for Boychuk.
Trade Petry for DSP.
Sign Kulemin, 3yrs, 10mil (3.33 per).
Sign Markov, 3yrs, 19mil (6.33 per).
Hall-Nuge-Perron
Kulemin-Anisimov-Yak
Glenncross-Gordon-Jenner
Gazdic-Hendricks-DSP
Arco, Pitlick
Markov-Ekblad
Ference-Boychuk
Klefbom-J Schultz
??? (Don't know if 7th D should be vet off scrap heap or Fedun)
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D is improved, better size and physicality in both the top 6 and bottom 6. 2 defensively responsible fellow countrymen for Yak's line mates, as well as Markov as a mentor/role model. Breaks up Hall and Ebs which hopefully results in a Hall focusing on hockey more and growing up. Playoff bound IMO.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Much like Marcus Foligno, I still can't figure out why Oilers fans over value players like Devante Smith-Pelley So much. He's not worth a top-4 defense who's on a reasonable contract. Not even close.
The rest of that looks interesting, though I think the Jackets say no to the first deal.
As a CBJ fan I really believe this is a fair proposal and has value on both sides. The problem it known that Jarmo/JD view Jenner as their developing version of Kessler....possible future captain material. So while his current production doesn't warrant untouchable status, the perception is the front office is too high on him to include him in deal, even one for an elite winger (I believe) like Eberle. Good proposal and one that has the structure of a plausible offseason deal if one were to come to fruition.
Jimmi McJenkins
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Edmonton Oilers @EdmontonOilers 1h
"He made everyone around him better. Simplified things, called guys out when they needed it... great teammate." - Smyth on seeing Pronger
Imagine if we had that guy in his prime here right now.
"He made everyone around him better. Simplified things, called guys out when they needed it... great teammate." - Smyth on seeing Pronger
Imagine if we had that guy in his prime here right now.
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Obviously getting Foligno would be a risk but I don't see any reason the guy wouldn't resign here. Could add in a conditional 1st if he doesn't resign. The whole reason your getting Foligno isn't because of how good he is offensively, its because of what he brings that doesn't show up on the score sheet.
On top of that it's not like Yakupov doesn't have his issues, the guy could bolt back to Russia at any moment and it remains to be seen if he'll put it all together. Out of all our 1st overalls I think he has looked the worse so far. Klefbom I'd argue is no longer our #2 prospect, especially if this deal happens after the draft. Guys I'd put in front of him are Nurse, 2014 draft pick, Marincin(IF he still qualifies).
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Ekblad on the top pairing is a recipe for success. Give him a year or two sheltered then let him spread his wings if he's ready.
I think the three centre men we should go after are Couturier, Anisimov, or Dubinsky.
We would have to give to get but all 3 help improve the team and are legit 2c just a matter of making the deal for both teams to be fair.
With CBJ they add Jenner
With PHI a deal with Simmonds added and we add Marincin I know phi wanted him at the draft plus they need dmen. I know we dodo but we can move Yak for that and sign Nikitin
We would have to give to get but all 3 help improve the team and are legit 2c just a matter of making the deal for both teams to be fair.
With CBJ they add Jenner
With PHI a deal with Simmonds added and we add Marincin I know phi wanted him at the draft plus they need dmen. I know we dodo but we can move Yak for that and sign Nikitin
Time to blow this core the F up we will never win in our division as is.
Eberle + '15 1st for Myers + Stewart (Solves our two biggest problems in one trade Size + D, I'd be willing to sweeten this deal as well to make sure it happens)
Justin Schultz + Pick for Simmonds (Not sure if Philly does this, but Schultz has the upside and they are looking for D)
Yakupov+Gagner for Hanzal+Prospect/Pick (Probably an over pay but gives us the perfect center to compete in our division, gives us two great shutdown C's in Gordon and Hanzal, and the biggest benefit imo taking the defensive load off Nuge, and allowing him to develop with some softer minutes for the next year or two while he gets stronger, instead of forcing him to play against Kopitar, Getzlaf, Thornton on the nightly, Hanzal flanked by Hall and Perron could do some serious damage and I would trust them in any situation.)
Orpik for a 3rd (Pens fans on the rumors board will take anything for this guy)
Pick Ekblad/Bennett/Reinhart depending on finish position (I predict 2nd last finish with us picking Ekblad, Reinhart going 1st to Buff)
Sign David Moss for the third line
Hall - Hanzal - Perron
Stewart - Nuge - Simmonds
Moss - Gordon - Lander
Gazdic - Hendricks - Pitlick/UFA/Waivers/Smyth
Ference - Myers
Marincin - Petry
Orpik - Ekblad
Nurse/Klefbom
Scrivens
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I would put a good amount of money on a HUGE improvment out of that team and personally I don't think my deals are to over the top (tell me if I'm wrong), we are moving some very nice pieces for stuff that allows us to compete with the big dogs. All our defense can break up a cycle and the break out should be a bit better with a year matured Marincin, Myers and Ekblad giving outlet passes, plus we add a VERY needed bomb from the point on our PP in both Myers and Ekblad.
Eberle + '15 1st for Myers + Stewart (Solves our two biggest problems in one trade Size + D, I'd be willing to sweeten this deal as well to make sure it happens)
Justin Schultz + Pick for Simmonds (Not sure if Philly does this, but Schultz has the upside and they are looking for D)
Yakupov+Gagner for Hanzal+Prospect/Pick (Probably an over pay but gives us the perfect center to compete in our division, gives us two great shutdown C's in Gordon and Hanzal, and the biggest benefit imo taking the defensive load off Nuge, and allowing him to develop with some softer minutes for the next year or two while he gets stronger, instead of forcing him to play against Kopitar, Getzlaf, Thornton on the nightly, Hanzal flanked by Hall and Perron could do some serious damage and I would trust them in any situation.)
Orpik for a 3rd (Pens fans on the rumors board will take anything for this guy)
Pick Ekblad/Bennett/Reinhart depending on finish position (I predict 2nd last finish with us picking Ekblad, Reinhart going 1st to Buff)
Sign David Moss for the third line
Hall - Hanzal - Perron
Stewart - Nuge - Simmonds
Moss - Gordon - Lander
Gazdic - Hendricks - Pitlick/UFA/Waivers/Smyth
Ference - Myers
Marincin - Petry
Orpik - Ekblad
Nurse/Klefbom
Scrivens
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I would put a good amount of money on a HUGE improvment out of that team and personally I don't think my deals are to over the top (tell me if I'm wrong), we are moving some very nice pieces for stuff that allows us to compete with the big dogs. All our defense can break up a cycle and the break out should be a bit better with a year matured Marincin, Myers and Ekblad giving outlet passes, plus we add a VERY needed bomb from the point on our PP in both Myers and Ekblad.
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Jimmi McJenkins
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The first deal is dangerous for the Oilers "out of season", because SO many things can happen that might lead to the Oilers picking 1st, injury being the big one, so I don't feel comfortable with that, given the Oilers' track record.
I'm a huge Justin Schultz fan, but that's a deal I really like actually.
That's horrendous trade for the Oilers, Hanzal and a bit is not enough.
Also, Orpik is going to be a UFA.
Jimmi McJenkins
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, yeah, but that's every team, even the ones that have one.Myers has played great this season and looks like he is returning to form, he has a cannon from the point that would greatly benefit our PP, he can skate very well, jumps up in the play, plus he's massive, he is exactly what Edmonton needs.. You need to take risks to find a player like that, If the pick turns out to be McDavid well then we have WAY bigger problems here and we should probably just fold as a franchise. (Colorado traded an unknown 1st for Varlamov after picking 2nd Overall) I'd imagine that's half the enticement for Buffalo to even make the deal, they'd hope we bomb again and obviously we are shooting for big improvement. Gotta risk it to get the biscuit and personally, I am so fed up with these basement seasons, I am more then ready to risk it.
As for Hanzal I agree that this one is probably an overpay, but Hanzal is the definition of what we need. Yakupov could end up scoring 40 goals one day but Hanzal is 6'6 235, aware on both ends of the ice, can actually stick man to man with the big guys in our division, and to boot he's having a pretty decent offensive year, I'm sure his numbers would rise with Hall/Perron. If we think Nuge, Gagner Gordon are gonna get it done in our division were dreaming, plus Hanzal is pretty close to untouchable for Phoenix so I'd imagine an offer like this at least would be needed.
Jimmi McJenkins
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I see what you're saying, but Colorado didn't give up that pick in the "Crosby 2.0" Draft, too risky out of season, imo.
I get all of what Hanzal brings, the size, grit, two-way play, but he's just not "good enough" to be worth That much. Hanzal + something decent for Yakupov, fine, but both Yak and Gagner, way too much.
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Frans Tuohimaa joins Oklahoma next season.
http://www.jatkoaika.com/Uutiset/frans-tuohimaa-sportiin-ensi-kaudella-pohjois-amerikkaan/154797
If we don't re-sign Bachman, our goalies in OKC will probably be Tuohimaa and Brossoit.
McDNicks17
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Any word on how Tuohimaa has played over there?
His stats don't look great(especially when compared to Saros').
Jimmi McJenkins
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HF did a small write up on him as part of their drafted Finnish Goalies article.
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articl...all-group-of-nhl-drafted-finnish-goaltenders/
Fingers crossed he can translate his game and find consistency.
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