Proposal: Proposals Thread: Fix this broken club

[Raab]

CBJ Fan coming in peace here. Since you mentioned Tyutin, I feel there are some potentially intriguing deals to look at between CBJ-EDM where appropriate value could be had on both sides. CBJ needs a top line winger and has been rumored at various times to be interested in Eberle or possibly Yakupov. Johansen, Murray, Bob, Jenner have been suggested by local media as the believed to be "untouchables" Just curious, who are most EDM fans more comfortable trading: Yak or Eberle....what would be the primary target return: D (Tyutin, Johnson?) 2 Way forwards with size/grit (Dubinsky, Anisimov, Foligno), other? Thanks

Dunno how you'd feel about it but:

To Columbus: Yakupov, Klefbom
To Edmonton: Johnson, Foligno?

 

[Sloth Slothersons*]

That looks terrible.

 

[SchultzSquared*]

CBJ needs a top line winger and has been rumored at various times to be interested in Eberle or possibly Yakupov. Johansen, Murray, Bob, Jenner have been suggested by local media as the believed to be "untouchables"

So you want one of the top four most valuable players on EDM... but your entire top four is "untouchable"... lol good luck with that one

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

So you want one of the top four most valuable players on EDM... but your entire top four is "untouchable"... lol good luck with that one

Johansen, Murray, and Bobrovsky are reasonable to be on the untouchable list when asking about Yakupov or Eberle. Jenner shouldn't be untouchable though when discussing those two as he is nowhere close in terms of value, but I'm guessing they see him in a similar light to how we seen Stoll when we first got him, being a young good two way player with leadership qualities and attributes that the team wants to retain.

If Columbus put Tyutin and Dubinsky on the table for either of Yakupov or Eberle (and a small add on our side) I would take it. I suspect Columbus would try making it Tyutin and either Umberger or Anisimov which would be less appealing.

edit: hmmm, didn't realise Dubinsky only had one more year left on his contract. Not so sure I would take that anymore.

 

[Groucho]

Dunno how you'd feel about it but:

To Columbus: Yakupov, Klefbom
To Edmonton: Johnson, Foligno?

I just puked all over my keyboard.

 

[Groucho]

Johansen, Murray, and Bobrovsky are reasonable to be on the untouchable list when asking about Yakupov or Eberle. Jenner shouldn't be untouchable though when discussing those two as he is nowhere close in terms of value, but I'm guessing they see him in a similar light to how we seen Stoll when we first got him, being a young good two way player with leadership qualities and attributes that the team wants to retain.

If Columbus put Tyutin and Dubinsky on the table for either of Yakupov or Eberle (and a small add on our side) I would take it. I suspect Columbus would try making it Tyutin and either Umberger or Anisimov which would be less appealing.

edit: hmmm, didn't realise Dubinsky only had one more year left on his contract. Not so sure I would take that anymore.

If you're trying to get Eberle out of Edmonton, Jenner + doesn't get you into the conversation. Sorry, the value isn't there.

Eberle has already put up a 70+ point season and he's 24.

 

[Paralyzer008]

If you could get two top pairing D by dealing away both the 2014 1st and the 2015 1st in separate deals, would you do it?

No 1st rounder for two years in a row, but suddenly you have elite D-men at your disposal. Thoughts?

Also with it, it's possible you end up keeping all of the kids in the process, so you can use them towards getting bigger or getting a No.2 C or keeping them altogether.

 

[OILSLICK94]

Nischuskin is 200 pounds and looks to be effective. Ritchie is 230 lbs and is literally a man playing amongst boys. Good little write up on him here: http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/20...he-big-tough-skilled-forward-the-oilers-need/

Sounds like he's just what we need and is ready to step in. But I wouldn't be against him going back and dominating if he is the pick.

Saw him play here 2 weeks ago in London...... Allot of similarities too Brandon Saad (CHI) when he was with Saginaw and payed visits to London, a man amongst boys very true

 

[McGlassbangers]

Jordan Eberle, 2015 3rd for Blake Wheeler
Martin Gernat, 2015 2nd for Patrik Berglund
Sam Gagner (10% retained), 2014 1st for Roman Josi, Colin Wilson, Juuse Saros

Hall - RNH - Wheeler
Perron - Berglund - Yakupov
Wilson - Gordon - "Moss"
Joensuu - Hendricks - Gazdic
(Lander, Pitlick)

Josi - Schultz
Marincin - Petry
Ference - "Ekblad"
(Fraser, Klefbom)

Scrivens
Fasth

 

[SchultzSquared*]

Jordan Eberle, 2015 3rd for Blake Wheeler

Yes.. I am SURE the Jets would fall over themselves to swap their 6'5 51 point scorer for a 5'11 50 point one...

Martin Gernat, 2015 2nd for Patrik Berglund

Err also not happening...

Sam Gagner (10% retained), 2014 1st for Roman Josi, Colin Wilson, Juuse Saros

Anddd a final fail... Preds in no WAY consider that

Both times have to want to make a trade... not just you

 

[McOvechking]

Yes.. I am SURE the Jets would fall over themselves to swap their 6'5 51 point scorer for a 5'11 50 point one...



Err also not happening...



Anddd a final fail... Preds in no WAY consider that

Both times have to want to make a trade... not just you

Hmm, in his defense the Preds might consider Gagner (10%+ retained) + 2014 1st for Josi + Wilson

 

[Zaddy]

Hmm, in his defense the Preds might consider Gagner (10%+ retained) + 2014 1st for Josi + Wilson

Highly doubt it. Preds could get a much better roster player than Gagner for Josi alone. While the 1st round pick might be nice they'd rather get some offensive help now and not 2-3 years from now.

 

[yukoner88]

Yes.. I am SURE the Jets would fall over themselves to swap their 6'5 51 point scorer for a 5'11 50 point one...

That's not as bad as you make it out to be, for both sides.

For the Jets, Eberle + Kane = profit as I think they could be explosive together if put on the same line.

And for the Oilers side

Hall-RNH-Wheeler would be a fantastic line

 

[Stud Muffin]

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Perron - Ansimov - Yakupov
Penner - Bolland - Frolik
Hendricks - Gordon - Gazdic
Joensou Jones

3c Sign Bolland or sign Fiddler as 4c
3lw sign Penner
2c trade Gagner for Anisimov
Sign frolik

Marincin - Petry
Klefbom - Schultz
Nurse - Ekblad
Belov

Try to Sign Markov and Boyle
Buyout Ference
Resign Belov
Draft Ekblad

Scrivens
Fasth

 

[CBJRzeznik]

So you want one of the top four most valuable players on EDM... but your entire top four is "untouchable"... lol good luck with that one

Just to clarify not on "my untouchable list" simply stating what local media has proposed based on what they believe Jarmo/JD's view (which may or may not be accurate). I would counter though that Johansen, Murray, and Bob should only come into conversation if Hall or RNH do...which of course they wouldn't and shouldn't. as they are the elite players on each team. There is no arguing EDM clearly has more high skill forwards than CBJ. Nonetheless, I certainly would also suggest that Tyutin/Johnson,, which is the Top D pair and Dubinsky/Anisimov/Folgino not low quality assets. Most CBJ fans would probably argue none are available. However, you have to give to get and a deal involving a combination of 2 of those assets for either Eberle or Yakupov may be of fair value and fill a glaring needs for both teams.

 

[ResilientBeast]

As an Oilers fan I would be all over that.

Gladly doing

To CLB: Eberle/Yakupov, Marco Roy and pick

To EDM: Tyutin and Dubinsky

If it's Yak, we have a deal. Then we dump Gagner for pucks and Dubinsky is an excellent compliment to Nuge

Dunno how you'd feel about it but:

To Columbus: Yakupov, Klefbom
To Edmonton: Johnson, Foligno?

God no

Jordan Eberle, 2015 3rd for Blake Wheeler
Martin Gernat, 2015 2nd for Patrik Berglund
Sam Gagner (10% retained), 2014 1st for Roman Josi, Colin Wilson, Juuse Saros

Hall - RNH - Wheeler
Perron - Berglund - Yakupov
Wilson - Gordon - "Moss"
Joensuu - Hendricks - Gazdic
(Lander, Pitlick)

Josi - Schultz
Marincin - Petry
Ference - "Ekblad"
(Fraser, Klefbom)

Scrivens
Fasth

No to the first one. Eberle > Wheeler

 

[CBJRzeznik]

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Perron - Ansimov - Yakupov
Penner - Bolland - Frolik
Hendricks - Gordon - Gazdic
Joensou Jones

3c Sign Bolland or sign Fiddler as 4c
3lw sign Penner
2c trade Gagner for Anisimov
Sign frolik

Marincin - Petry
Klefbom - Schultz
Nurse - Ekblad
Belov

Try to Sign Markov and Boyle
Buyout Ference
Resign Belov
Draft Ekblad

Scrivens
Fasth

No offense but unlikely CBJ would trade Anisimov for Gagne. Anisimov as part of a larger deal (CBJ adding significant assets) for Eberle or possibly Yakupov would be more likely.

 

[Moose Coleman]

If you could get two top pairing D by dealing away both the 2014 1st and the 2015 1st in separate deals, would you do it?

No 1st rounder for two years in a row, but suddenly you have elite D-men at your disposal. Thoughts?

Also with it, it's possible you end up keeping all of the kids in the process, so you can use them towards getting bigger or getting a No.2 C or keeping them altogether.

Without even breaking a sweat.

 

[LTIR]

Dubinsky + Tyutin for Eberle + ?? It would be a no brainer for Oilers. I would even throw Gagner as the plus to make this happen.

Sign Nikitin as UFA and we should be set up front and on D.

Hall, Perron, Dubinsky, Nuge and Yak in top 6 is plenty skill to offset the loss of Gagner+ Ebs. Finding a big top 6 winger to fill out the top 6 shouldnt be too hard. If no one else we can resign Arco

 

[Oil In My Veins]

I just puked all over my keyboard.

 

[OF17]

Trading for Dubinsky without an extension isn't worth the risk unless the price is significantly lower than Eberle/Yakupov. I don't see how it makes sense for Columbus to move him either unless there's no chance he'll re-sign. I wouldn't be surprised if he became their captain.

I still think that Berglund is our most reasonable target for 2C. Something has to give in STL in terms of salary, which is a big positive for the Oilers, given that STL likely would want picks/prospects back in the deal instead of NHL players. I bet they'd bite on a deal centered around Klefbom.

 

[Musashi]

CBJ Fan coming in peace here. Since you mentioned Tyutin, I feel there are some potentially intriguing deals to look at between CBJ-EDM where appropriate value could be had on both sides. CBJ needs a top line winger and has been rumored at various times to be interested in Eberle or possibly Yakupov. Johansen, Murray, Bob, Jenner have been suggested by local media as the believed to be "untouchables" Just curious, who are most EDM fans more comfortable trading: Yak or Eberle....what would be the primary target return: D (Tyutin, Johnson?) 2 Way forwards with size/grit (Dubinsky, Anisimov, Foligno), other? Thanks

I would be all over an Eberle for Dubinsky trade as the main pieces. Would like Tyutin as well but I'm guessing it would take more then just adding a prospect to get that done. What else on the Oilers do you think sounds reasonable to get it done?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So I was just looking over the UFA goalies, I'm wondering if the Oilers should sign Joey MacDonald as a #3 goaltender for next season. He can play in the NHL in a pinch and he's a quality vet. Makes sense for a decent rate.

 

[yukoner88]

So I was just looking over the UFA goalies, I'm wondering if the Oilers should sign Joey MacDonald as a #3 goaltender for next season. He can play in the NHL in a pinch and he's a quality vet. Makes sense for a decent rate.

Bachman is good enough to hang on to for that role

 

[backhandsauce]

I'd like to see Brossiot and Bunz be the 1-2 goalies in OKC next year.